Do you think it is wrong to keep a dog outside?

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I think there are definitely exceptions to the dogs outside vs. inside thing. When I was a kid, my cousins had a Newfie. We'd have big family paries and my aunt was not a neat freak. She would have welcomed him inside. She adored that dog. He'd come inside, make his rounds around the large group of people, being friendly and then want to go back outside again. See...he got too hot inside. He really truly preferred to be outside most of the time, with short little visits inside or having people come outside a visit with him. He'd go across the little lane to the golf course and collect golf balls. This was years and years ago when there wasn't much population where my cousins lived...on an island in Puget Sound. Anyhow, dogs like him or farm dogs, dogs with so much fur, they get too hot...as long as they're happy and have plenty of interaction with those they love, are well cared for etc....they're fine. But generally....with most pet dogs, I think they're usually happiest inside when their family is inside.
 

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Depends on the dog, depends on the climate. Depends on if they are chained to a dog house or watching the flock. Depends on if their owner is going to make sure flies don't chew off their ears and leave bloody trails down their coats and if they are loose and have choices about where to sleep or if they are forced to live in their own dung and urine.

Personally I will keep mine on the furniture, in my bed, and warm in the winter and cool in the summer. Victor can't abide a bug, I cant' begin to imagine him forced into an outside life.
 

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As long as it is properly contained in a secure kennel or on a proper tie-out setup within a properly fenced yard when unsupervised AND gets proper exercise, mental stimulation, training, and attention every day, then nope I have no problems with that whatsoever.

I have a real big problem with morons who leave their dogs loose in their yards unsupervised, fenced or unfenced. Most dogs can get out of most fencing if they really want to. And if its not fenced, freaking leash the dog even if its just going out to pee! I have to actually check outside before I take my dogs out to pee (on leash) because my neighbor's lab can climb their 6ft privacy fence, my yard is unfenced, and their lab wants to eat my dogs. Dogs that aren't properly contained is about my number one pet peeve in the world. I'm sick of my dogs getting attacked by uncontained dogs whenever we go out to walk and I'm sick of the breeds I love being set up to fail by lazy owners that won't contain them or provide proper exercise/training.

Annoying habits like nuisance barking, running the fenceline, etc. is more a lack of owner giving the dog what it needs as far as exercise, mental stimulation, etc. and I've seen it present in house dogs as well as outside dogs. Its a lack of proper management on the part of the owner.
 

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I agree with Lizmo....it's not wrong if you're spending a number of hours outside every single day, rain or shine, snow or cold or heat, and properly socializing and caring for the dog. And I don't mean an hour or two of exercise and training, I mean spending a similar amount of time outside with the dog than you would be spending with the dog were it indoors and lying there watching tv with you or lying at your feet while you eat dinner, etc.

I think it would be much, much easier to find a dog who minimally aggravates your boyfriend's allergies, create dog-free zones in the house, do not allow the dog on furniture, get wood floors, bathe the dog weekly, and feed it a diet that minimizes it's allergens. Unless the boyfriend has a very serious allergy, he should be able to comfortably live with some dogs if you take these precautions.
 

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I think it only truly works out for a working dog. Think about it. . . With a working dog they are out with the animals they love all the time like our dogs we have inside so its not a big deal. They learn their animals are their people,they bond to them. Now with an outside dog that you just go out and play with its left alone at night and thats basically what it is. It doesn't have a job to do,it does not have anyone to socialize with(not that you should have two outside dogs).

Now you could look for a dog that is more independent. But if you are looking for a dog to do agility with this is going to be a dog thats going to be pretty bonded to you and want to spend time with you. My husky could care less about me(she does love my little brother though) and as long as someone feeds her and its not windy out she would not care where she is. But I know other huskies that would be miserable not being inside with their people.

I know for my dogs they just care they are there while we are home. Sitting with us while we watch tv and trying to sneak into the bathroom while we go:eek:

When we move to more land we plan on getting a outside dog to stay with the smaller animals we don't even have yet. I don't worry about the horses but I hear they have been eating sheep. My dogs just stand on the porch for the most part when the hear them.
 

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I had an outdoor dog when I was a kid. My mother's boyfriend (now ex) was a reeeeal strict jerk and believed very strongly that animals belonged outdoors. The dog hated it and was constantly barking for us to let him in. All he wanted was to just be with us. I got rebellious on more then one occassion and snuck him into my room, but was always caught and he went right back outside.

A few years later, my mom ended up making the guy kick rocks, and at that point the dog was allowed back inside, but only in the evening. During the day he had to stay outside.
 

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I'm not big on outside dogs. I often feel like, why even have one? But I know that opinion is not always popular and I do understand that a dog can be very well cared for, trained, socialized and exercise and live outside. I guess I can see both sides. It's not something I would ever do. I like my dog to be a member of the family and I like them being inside. I mean, if a dog is absolutely miserable indoors, that's a different story, but I'll probably never own a breed that would be like that so it won't be an issue for me.

With that said, I watch a Rottweiler who stays outside during the day, if temps permit. They built him a little fenced in area in the shadiest part of the yard with a doghouse, food, water and toys. They hired me so I come mid-day to walk him for 30 minutes. They also let him inside when they get home from work and he sleeps in their room on the floor. If it's too hot, she brings him inside in his crate, same with if it's too cold. I know he prefers to be outside than in his crate so I don't really feel too bad.
 

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I'm not big on outside dogs. I often feel like, why even have one? But I know that opinion is not always popular and I do understand that a dog can be very well cared for, trained, socialized and exercise and live outside. I guess I can see both sides. It's not something I would ever do. I like my dog to be a member of the family and I like them being inside.
This.

I do think there are exceptions, but it's not something I will ever do. If I was in your situation and really HAD to keep a dog outside, personally, I wouldn't get one. I just couldn't look outside and see my dog outside looking in and wanting to be with me and keep that door closed.
 

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I would very much perfer to have an indoor dog.
If we DID get an indoor dog, ive been looking at Italian greyhounds, Ive been reading that they are pretty good for allergy sufferers. they shed very little (I know its the dander not the hair that causes the allergies, but this still helps)
And Ive been thinking , if we had all wood floors, a leather couch I could wipe clean daily, used air purifiers, bathed the dog regularly, banned dog from bedroom. I have hope it just might work.. what do you guys think?
 

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I would very much perfer to have an indoor dog.
If we DID get an indoor dog, ive been looking at Italian greyhounds, Ive been reading that they are pretty good for allergy sufferers. they shed very little (I know its the dander not the hair that causes the allergies, but this still helps)
And Ive been thinking , if we had all wood floors, a leather couch I could wipe clean daily, used air purifiers, bathed the dog regularly, banned dog from bedroom. I have hope it just might work.. what do you guys think?
I'd say that's a pretty good bet. Maybe try fostering (a well house trained!) one for a bit?
 

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Actually it can be the hair too. Dander is just far more common. It's great that you're willing to do all that but...

I think the dog decision needs to be his more than yours. If he wants a dog and is willing to put up with the drugs, the sniffles, the burning eyes, and skin if it doesn't work then go forth with my blessing. However... what if he really doesn't want all that work, what if your efforts to keep your boyfriend allergic reaction free doesn't work out?

Honestly if I were selling puppies right now and you as a team didn't have that nailed down I would not sell you the puppy.
 

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It is something we HAVE been talking about, and beleive me I wont be getting one if he doesnt agree with it. Also, I do not plan on getting a puppy from a breeder, I would be adopting. most likely fostering first..
 
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I would foster first.

What happens when you adopt a dog/pup and he is deathly allergic and says you have to get rid of it? An Italian Greyhound is not going to do well living outside, that really isn't an option for that breed.

I don't blame you for wanting to try, but I would deff find a way to do a "trial" with a dog before I would sign adoption papers. :)

We are not trying to beat you down, we are all for the well being of dogs and rescuing them. We just do not know you yet, and you know that they are some people out there in your situation who WILL just go out and get a dog, find out it doesn't work, and dump it on the side of the road.

I am glad you are researching your options and thinking this through before jumping in head first. :)
 

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Um, no, there are not. Allergies are not only caused by dander, though it is generally the most common, they are also triggered by saliva and urine. I'm pretty sure that all dogs still produce both of those things. I am somewhat allergic to dogs, but don't usually react unless I am licked. If I get licked anywhere other than the palms, I break out in hives and it doesn't matter if it is from a poodle or Samoyed, the hives still happen.


Mayo Clinic response to "hypoallergenic" dogs.
Okay, my bad on the use of that word. There are dogs that are "far less likely to trigger allergic reactions because they produce less allergens". I didn't go to med school :p
 

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Oh if we where to get an italian greyhound it would Deff be an inside dog. I think the best fit for me with all the research ive been doing is a standard poodle.
Altough I really perfer shorter haired dogs, Im not too into the floofy dogs, but i guess I shouldnt be so picky lol ;)
I dont usually like small breed dogs, but the italian greyhound REALLY apeals to me.
Im falling in love with the breed the more i see them, but im worried about the training, i hear they are very hard to housebreak?
the pros and cons ive got so far..

Italian Greyhound pros:
I love love love their personality
I love their look
short hair (no grooming)

Cons:
Fragile
hard to housebreak

poodle:
Easy to train and very smart
big and loveable
could be better for having around kids when that ever happens :p

cons:
floofy dog, lots of grooming.

not a good list yet.. but atleast i still have awhile to think about this lol argh :/
I want a doggie so bad, it feels so lonely without one :(
any other breed suggestions for me to research?
 

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How about an off the track greyhound? Might be the best of both worlds for you for type and size and have the added perks of possibly fostering before you commit. Just a thought.
 

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When you think of Poodles and refer to them as floofy, do you mean fluffy hair or "foo foo", as in prissy/showy? We hear of a lot of people thinking Poodles are nothing but foo foo dogs, accessories for fashion, not "real" dogs. But nothing could be further from the truth. I'm sure you've seen while doing your research how capable they are, what great hunting/retrieving dogs they are, how intelligent and trainable...willing they are and how very athletic they are. I'd love a Poodle some day....any of the sizes. I love the low to no shedding and the fact that many people with allergies do fine with Poodles. I dislike hair all over the place and other than the grooming needs once a month or every 6 weeks or so, I think they'd be great. Instead of paying a groomer, I think I'd learn how to clip and do it myself. It would be more of a hassle than say, my Chihuahuas...they only need an occassional bath. They shed a teensy bit, but they're so small and it doesn't amount to much at all. Anyhow, good luck with your research and hope you can find a breed or mix to suit your life style just right. I have no doubt you will.
 

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Oh I know know how capable they are, wich is why I do like them.
My boyfriend says he doesnt like poodles, im guessing cuz he thinks they're prissy dogs, im trying to talk him otherwise ;)
what i mean by floofy, is i like a nice clean short haired looking dog, its much easier to keep clean.
My bf would like a boxer or saluki, while i do LOVE boxers.. neither of those breeds are ones i think would be good for him..lol
 

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