DA dogs and dog parks?

[Amstaffer]

OP...I would not take a DA dog to a dog park...period. I wouldn't take a reactive dog to a dog park. Its not safe and IMHO not worth the risk. Sal has been the victim of DA dogs at the park and although he thinks its part of the game, it really angers me when I see the blood dripping and know someone took a dog to a dog park that they most likely knew was aggressive.

Dog humping, if the dogs know each other can just be play, if the dogs don't know each other it can start a fight.

 

[dr2little]

Dogs do humping for more than one reason. Sexual tension, play, and dominance. The dog on the receiving end might interpret it as dominance and will react. Some don't mind it and some will outright attack depending on their personality. Speaking of dominance, even putting his/her head over another dog is considered dominance and has caused fights in itself.

I'm not sure if you read my post right but while I said that there is no proof that humping is dominance related, I never said that I or anyone knew the actual reason or that dogs mount eachother or that this behavior was for one specific reason. I also said that it was rude, should be stopped, and could cause a fight....

What I was referring to was the conclusion that some draw, that humping is a dominance display and the fact that there are many reasons that dogs do this. I'm well aware of the displays that dogs commonly use to convey messages, I'm just not one to assume that all humping is dominance realted.

edited to say - I just realized that I actually didn't quote your post.

 

[Squishy22]

I'm not sure if you read my post right but while I said that there is no proof that humping is dominance related, I never said that I or anyone knew the actual reason or that dogs mount eachother or that this behavior was for one specific reason. I also said that it was rude, should be stopped, and could cause a fight....

What I was referring to was the conclusion that some draw, why I quoted your post, that humping is a dominance display and the fact that there are many reasons that dogs do this. I'm well aware of the displays that dogs commonly use to convey messages, I'm just not one to assume that all humping is dominance realted.

I guess we will agree to disagree then. Not trying to start anything. I just think humping is a sure sign that one dog is putting itself over the other. As with wolves. Even if it was for sexual tension, I think a dog would still have to be gutsy to do such a thing with a dog it does not know.

 

[dr2little]

I guess we will agree to disagree then. Not trying to start anything. I just think humping is a sure sign that one dog is putting itself over the other. As with wolves. Even if it was for sexual tension, I think a dog would still have to be gutsy to do such a thing with a dog it does not know.

Of course you're entitled to disagree but this is not my opinion but that of the researchers in the Canine Behavior community.
In fact, the majority of these researchers and experts will still point to the most obvious reason, (except to the general public who still goes straight for the 'dominance' diagnosis)...SEX!
And yes, this includes altered males and females. Excitement of the environment and interactions most certainly can , and often do build sexual excitement.

Again, not debating the point that it is often considered very rude by unwilling dogs, but just that the dominance diagnosis is over used and in this case, most often incorrect.

 

[smkie]

A lot of dogs just naturally know how to say f off without going all indignant about it. Victor was chased down by a dog three times his size in Grammy's back yard and he has both an attitude about humping as well as a lingering resentment towards goldens in general. It is taking him a while to get over that. But his first reaction is always going to be run out of range from trouble. THis is why i know he is safe to go to the dog park. HIs issues are not large enough to create a hostile enviorment. Mary can handle herself just fine and Pepper is of the same temperment. Only you know if your dog is going to get all het up about a minor infraction or not. Since minor and some major infractions of good behavior are the standard at off leash parks, there will be the occasional humper, or barker, or herder that doesnt' want anyone to have any fun, or toy stealer, or jumper, you have to go knowing fully well that in your face IS going to happen. IF your dog does get upset by these bumbling dogs being dogs, then it is not a good candidate for off leash parks.

 

[bubbatd]

Was that Seger ???

 

[Sweet72947]

Of course you're entitled to disagree but this is not my opinion but that of the researchers in the Canine Behavior community.
In fact, the majority of these researchers and experts will still point to the most obvious reason, (except to the general public who still goes straight for the 'dominance' diagnosis)...SEX!
And yes, this includes altered males and females. Excitement of the environment and interactions most certainly can , and often do build sexual excitement.

I wonder if that's why my spayed female lab mix humps some male dogs every rare once in a while? Sometimes when she and Benji play she tries to hump Benji and it doesn't work very well, since she's 75lbs and he's 20lbs. She only does it for a couple of seconds though.

On topic, I don't even like bringing Daisy to dog parks because there's too many dumb owners. Daisy is good though, she'd rather avoid a fight if she can, unless a dog threatens Benji, then it would be ON. That's why I wouldn't take both of them to a dog park EVER. I take Daisy to FOHA with me sometimes and I let her play with dogs one-on-one in the play area.

 

[Squishy22]

Of course you're entitled to disagree but this is not my opinion but that of the researchers in the Canine Behavior community.
In fact, the majority of these researchers and experts will still point to the most obvious reason, (except to the general public who still goes straight for the 'dominance' diagnosis)...SEX!
And yes, this includes altered males and females. Excitement of the environment and interactions most certainly can , and often do build sexual excitement.

Again, not debating the point that it is often considered very rude by unwilling dogs, but just that the dominance diagnosis is over used and in this case, most often incorrect.

Oh gotcha. Yeah, everyone always screams dominance and I think that SEX has to do with it a lot of times. Some dogs are just horny. My 3 year old chihuahua has bouts of humping. She is a very dominant dog but I also think it has to do with sexual frustration. I've seen unaltered males hump and semen drips out of their penis, so PLEASE do not tell me its JUST dominance. lol.

 

[bubbatd]

I personally have had more trouble with my females and neutered males ! I can't remember any of my intact males humping ! They even waited for my permission to breed ! Silly bunch !

 

[Squishy22]

I personally have had more trouble with my females and neutered males ! I can't remember any of my intact males humping ! They even waited for my permission to breed ! Silly bunch !

My female also humps more than any male I've ever had.

 

[dr2little]

I had a new breeder call me, freaking out because her neutered male tied with one of her very young females (first heat). This gal had no clue that it was even possible...maybe a clue that she should choose another "hobby".:yikes:

The only dog in my home that has ever humped at all is Tinker...and it almost always occured during intense play. It was kind of strange to see an entire 1.5 lbs. of barking rat, wiggling to beat the band ..with an look of complete and utter confusion on her face.

The look on the dogs face who's ankle or ear was on the receiving end of the grind...totally bewildered..:rofl1:

 

[Squishy22]

I had a new breeder call me, freaking out because her neutered male tied with one of her very young females (first heat). This gal had no clue that it was even possible...maybe a clue that she should choose another "hobby".:yikes:

The only dog in my home that has ever humped at all is Tinker...and it almost always occured during intense play. It was kind of strange to see an entire 1.5 lbs. of barking rat, wiggling to beat the band ..with an look of complete and utter confusion on her face.

The look on the dogs face who's ankle or ear was on the receiving end of the grind...totally bewildered..:rofl1:

:rofl1: Too funny.

And you should post some pics of your little ones. I am a huge chi person....

 

[Pam111]

My female also humps more than any male I've ever had.

My female humps my male a lot

 

[Duke'sMommy]

See how they build the park. Duke is DA with dogs he hasnt know since he was a puppy. The park I do to has a smaller fenced in area and Duke goes in there everyday. I can work him with his DA and still have enough room for him to have a good run by himself. And when it is quite in the park and I know must the dogs, Ive been going to mine for over 2 years, I just muzzle him and go in and let him play.

If you are just cautious your dogs can enjoy the park just like the others.