CM gets bitten... again (vid included)

[rubygirl]

Thank you all for the wonderful debate. Have a great day

 

[Doberluv]

:rofl1::rofl1::rofl1:

 

[Doberluv]

There are a lot of Dr. Phil's on here Ive noticed! My husband and I have made the choice long ago that we mutually agree- a biting dog isn't worth having.

Yes. And ain't that grand?

 

[rubygirl]

And, to turn your logic on you, because you've never been there you can't possibly seem to grasp it.

A dogs life, no matter how emotional you are, is still that-a life.

You raise it, you make mistakes, sometimes the mistakes bite you in the ass (literally) and you are now faced with the question: what did I do wrong (see: if you don't train me, don't blame me) and what do I do now OR should we throw in the towel and kill the dog?

You look at the dog, look at your photos, look at your videos, review the trips you've taken, the milestones you've passed, the mistakes you've made that they've forgiven you for and you weigh your options. Do we go forward and change our lives for the better or do you give in to the easy route and ask someone to kill your dog for you knowing that you've likely caused this and you're likely teaching the next generation how invaluable a life is in comparison to the work it will take admitting you messed up and are now responsible for cleaning up the mess.

This dog in question was likely not born aggressive. It may have offered a guarding behavior as a puppy (most every pup will try unless mom and siblings have beaten it out of them) and someone fought them on it. They teased the dog thinking it was the right choice and they then turned it over to a trainer with a mentality much like yours who tried to beat the fight out of the dog, just like in humans you cannot beat the fight out of every dog, instead of fixing the problem they made it worse, and worse, and worse.

Had anyone had the sense of mind to make humans near the bowl a positive thing at the beginning (or middle or end) we wouldn't be seeing this video.

There are so many easier and more humane ways to handle dogs and humans that it break my heart and hurts my head when people jump to the abuse for foundations or to clean up a mess they created.

I can see your point. I do not resort to abuse. I am firm but not abusive.
My dog just happens to be a really good dog..? I'm hoping/praying that she stays that way. I'm hoping- that I will never have to make that choice. If I do then such is life. I have other things that take precedence.
If I didn't have a family would I think differently? Maybe....

 

[Renee750il]

You have no idea......NOTHING is set in stone

Obviously this isn't the case

Which brings up the paradox of "nothing is set in stone" isn't set in stone

 

[Greenmagick]

Obviously this isn't the case

Which brings up the paradox of "nothing is set in stone" isn't set in stone

lol

Ok, life isn't set in stone

 

[ThoseWordsAtBest]

Oh god why.

 

[CharlieDog]

Oh god why.

Ah. Now I need the spitting drink gif.

 

[Beanie]

Ah. Now I need the spitting drink gif.

LOL I just did it AGAIN too.
This has been such a great morning.

 

[CharlieDog]

You're welcome. Credits go to Maxfox.

 

[kady05]

Wow.. this thread has gotten real fun since I left for work!

 

[Moth]

Oh god why.

:hail:

 

[Renee750il]

You're welcome. Credits go to Maxfox.

:rofl1: :hail:

 

[Doberluv]

Oh god why.

Why what? What were talking about?

Oh yeah....who has children?

 

[Red.Apricot]

Both of our dogs would have bitten him a lot sooner.

I don't think that makes them a danger to society.

 

[Renee750il]

I know people with KIDS who would have bitten him sooner, lol.

And I wouldn't blame them either.

 

[AdrianneIsabel]

I can see your point. I do not resort to abuse. I am firm but not abusive.
My dog just happens to be a really good dog..? I'm hoping/praying that she stays that way. I'm hoping- that I will never have to make that choice. If I do then such is life. I have other things that take precedence.
If I didn't have a family would I think differently? Maybe....

I do hope for your sake you never face such an issue, truly.

“Life is life - whether in a cat, or dog or man. There is no difference there between a cat or a man. The idea of difference is a human conception for man's own advantage.â€

This doesn't mean, to me, that we are not our dogs keepers and should not hold them to a certain level of expectations but to casually brush off the ease of killing a life, no matter the species is either a sign if inexperience or something seriously wrong.

 

[Barbara!]

We are technically discussing attacks as that dog did not "bite" to resource guard it attacked.

This is something you really don't seem to be getting. At all. That dog did not "attack" because it was resource guarding.... The dog bit Cesar and they weren't even remotely close to the bowl, for Christ's sake. The dog bit because Cesar was attacking and threatening it. If he did that to one of my dogs, he could expect a bite from them as well.

 

[ThoseWordsAtBest]

I liked rubygirl better when she was lovejc and told us we were all bleeding heart pathetic clicker using man bite lovers that waste our time on dogs like these, so effectively the dog should be shot.

 

[Barbara!]

I think it's possible that others of a like mind might be too intimidated to post so that they don't get roasted....? Or so that they will not be shunned from the group? I don't know...?
I'm not going to find attacking animals any more acceptable...

Ruby, I believe that if a dog attacks a human unprovoked and can not be rehabilitated that it should be put to sleep. I am from the "pit bull frame of mind". But this dog was provoked in her biting of Cesar and CAN be rehabilitated. Simple as that.