Changing views on pits, one person at a time

[pitbulliest]

That is true for stray dogs, but alot of the times the dog owner is the one who says what breed their dog is. I am pretty sure that an owner knows the breed of their own dog.

Not always..people who adopt dogs from shelters don't always know what type of dog it is..neither does the shelter...there was a case here just recently where a dog was adopted out as a pug mix..turned out to have pit in it as well...

Sometimes dogs are similar in appearance to pits....lab mixes, collie crosses and so on, so they are automatically labelled as "pitbulls"....

that screws with the stats heavily.....and unfortuntately, alot of people are not canine experts...

 

[oriondw]

I got a question, you people view a Pitbull same as a Golden Lab?

I dont get it... Its like comparing my dog to a miniature poodle...

Both sides are doing a dis service to the breed, one portraying them as pure killers, and the other portraying them as quiet peace loving dogs who couldnt hurt a fly...

Both views are obviously wrong.

So sue me that I get on guard when I see a pit approaching me and my dog.

 

[rottiegirl]

Not always..people who adopt dogs from shelters don't always know what type of dog it is..neither does the shelter...there was a case here just recently where a dog was adopted out as a pug mix..turned out to have pit in it as well...

That is true, shelters are not the best at determining the breed.

Both sides are doing a dis service to the breed, one portraying them as pure killers, and the other portraying them as quiet peace loving dogs who couldnt hurt a fly...

Exactly! People attack me and say that I am beating the breed just because I am inbetween those two points of veiws. Pits are not pure killers, but alot of them can and are dangerous.

 

[rottiegirl]

The other day when I was at the dog park this couple had their two pit bulls there, and both of them kept attacking the other dogs. That is a great way to put out a good image about pits, not! Those people should not have had those dogs at the park, because they are dog aggressive. The other people at the park assumed that the pits were aggressive and not safe to have around young childeren in the park. I hate it when people make assumptions like that. I also hate it when people take dog aggressive pits into the park, because instead of puting the pits into a good light, all they are doing is puting them into a bad light.

 

[oriondw]

The other day when I was at the dog park this couple had their two pit bulls there, and both of them kept attacking the other dogs. That is a great way to put out a good image about pits, not! Those people should not have had those dogs at the park, because they are dog aggressive. The other people at the park assumed that the pits were aggressive and not safe to have around young childeren in the park. I hate it when people make assumptions like that. I also hate it when people take dog aggressive pits into the park, because instead of puting the pits into a good light, all they are doing is puting them into a bad light.

People should not have children in the dog park under any circumstances.

I hate morons who bring their herd of kids to a dog park, and then bitch at me that my dog knocked their little cry baby down.

Aggression is a double aged sword... My dog doesnt really go out for other dogs, but if a dog tries to mount or growls at him funny... that dog is a goner.

Thats why we dont go to dog parks anymore. I get tired of 20lb dogs trying to mount my dog...

 

[gaddylovesdogs]

A lot of different breeds ARE mistaken for pit bulls...on Animal Cops a few days ago there were two bully dogs that the cops were going to take away, as they said they were pit bulls and they are banned in Miami. Looking at one of the dogs it was clear that he was NOT a pit, he was an American Bulldog. And this cop calls himself a pit expert . The owner told them he was an AB.

There is no such thing as a Golden Lab. There are Yellow Labs.

 

[oriondw]

There is no such thing as a Golden Lab. There are Yellow Labs.

What... ever....

 

[gaddylovesdogs]

Wasn't trying to be rude, it just kind of bugs me when people say, "Oh, look a golden lab!!!" Believe it or not, though they are similar, golden retrievers and labradors ARE different breeds.

 

[pitbulliest]

oriondw - "I got a question, you people view a Pitbull same as a Golden Lab?" - Good question...maybe you should ask some of the "expert" vets and animal control officers that identify them...amongst the general public of course

"Both sides are doing a dis service to the breed, one portraying them as pure killers, and the other portraying them as quiet peace loving dogs who couldnt hurt a fly...
Both views are obviously wrong" - That goes for every single dog on this planet. Why are you singling out pits?

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Rottie - "Exactly! People attack me and say that I am beating the breed just because I am inbetween those two points of veiws. Pits are not pure killers, but alot of them can and are dangerous." - Again, I'll repeat myself. That goes for every dog. Why aren't you pointing that out about rotties?

 

[Amstaffer]

So sue me that I get on guard when I see a pit approaching me and my dog.

This sounds so much like the lady who grabs her purse everytime she see a black man walking down the street. If everybody realized that the stereotypes about dogs is the same as racism (as far as logic) you wouldn't have this wild hype about Pitbull and Rotts.

Oh wait, the TV news wants us to be scared of Black people too so they can keep us tuned in and distracted from real issues.

 

[oriondw]

This sounds so much like the lady who grabs her purse everytime she see a black man walking down the street. If everybody realized that the stereotypes about dogs is the same as racism (as far as logic) you wouldn't have this wild hype about Pitbull and Rotts.

Oh wait, the TV news wants us to be scared of Black people too so they can keep us tuned in and distracted from real issues.

A chance of a pit bull attacking me and my dog is much much much higher then a golden doing so.

I dont have that reaction to rotts for my own reasons.

Comparing this to racism is stupendous.

 

[Amstaffer]

A chance of a pit bull attacking me and my dog is much much much higher then a golden doing so.

I dont have that reaction to rotts for my own reasons.

Comparing this to racism is stupendous.

Chances? It depends on where you live and the number of dogs etc... Why does the pitbull pass the Amer. Humane Society temperment test more often than goldens?

In my experience at the Dog park, I have only had problems with three breeds Goldens, Collie and JRT. Not slam any breed that is just my experience.

You call my comparison "Stupendous" but using logic, can you defend this? The same flaws in the claims of racism apply directly to singling out one breed of dog as being more dangerous.

Stats in America often support racist claims but when you delve into the stats and conditions you find that they are false claims or miscalculated.

I would love to hear your logic for why it is different. Each dog is its own, just like each person is its own. Both are subject to their upbringing. You will find that dogs are the result of the poverty and lack of education of their owner.

 

[oriondw]

Chances? It depends on where you live and the number of dogs etc... Why does the pitbull pass the Amer. Humane Society temperment test more often than goldens?

In my experience at the Dog park, I have only had problems with three breeds Goldens, Collie and JRT. Not slam any breed that is just my experience.

You call my comparison "Stupendous" but using logic, can you defend this? The same flaws in the claims of racism apply directly to singling out one breed of dog as being more dangerous.

Stats in America often support racist claims but when you delve into the stats and conditions you find that they are false claims or miscalculated.

I would love to hear your logic for why it is different. Each dog is its own, just like each person is its own. Both are subject to their upbringing. You will find that dogs are the result of the poverty and lack of education of their owner.

Alright. So you're one of those people who think all dogs are good inside and if the dog is agressive then its owners fault?

 

[BigDog2191]

Alright. So you're one of those people who think all dogs are good inside and if the dog is agressive then its owners fault?

What do you believe? That sounds about perfectly right. Even a dog with bad temperament can be rehabiliated... in reality, dogs with bad temperament... are a lot more... sensitive, you could say. They're quick to use aggression if they feel it's needed (which can be just about anything--hence, very sensitive) but this can be corrected. It takes the right owner.

 

[BigDog2191]

People should not have children in the dog park under any circumstances.

Oh how I agree with this statement. There are always some loud, squealing obnoxious kid at social classes. Kinda sucks the fun out of it sometimes.

Even one that just started running yelling, "he's chassssing meeee!" I mean, what do you expect? When you run, the dog will chase you. And it initiated more dogs to go after them. Most people were pretty disgruntled over it.

Dogs can be very unpredictable-- it's stupid to have a young child there, there are dogs that simply don't like young kids. Rocky took A LONG time to warm up to children and even now, I don't really fully trust him around them.

And when I see women walking real slowly, with their baby in the stroller, it really makes my blood boil. These dogs are going VERY fast, chasing each other and having fun-- I've been knocked down before. What if a couple were to accidentally knock down her and the baby?

It's stupid.

/rant

 

[rottiegirl]

Well, at the dog park I have had problems with huskies, rotties, am bull dogs, pits, GSDs, poms, and a wolf hybrid. Not pointing fingers at any breed.

 

[gaddylovesdogs]

In my opinion (I am not saying pits are evil, in fact I LOVE pits), pit bulls are more likely to be dog aggressive and just aren't dog park dogs.

 

[rottiegirl]

Rottie - "Exactly! People attack me and say that I am beating the breed just because I am inbetween those two points of veiws. Pits are not pure killers, but alot of them can and are dangerous." - Again, I'll repeat myself. That goes for every dog. Why aren't you pointing that out about rotties?

Oh my god! This thread is about pits, correct? In the past, I have said the same about rotties too. I am not trying to point fingers at any breed, I am trying to point fingers at breeders and owners. Yes, many other breeds have been problems too, including rotties. But pits are the problem now days.

 

[qwkslvr]

hey you people have forgot about the vizsla eating chi that has scared my big baby vizsla "Otis" . While walking one day this cute little chi came up to ssay high, well thats what we thought till he tried to take a bite outta Otis's nose. Then Otis whirled around to hide behind me and that little vizsla eating machine bite him on the butt. Well since then little dogs are to be feared. We haven't met up with any pitts yet, but I have met a few and they were pretty good dogs. I think training plays a huge part on any dogs temperment.
Take care all! P

 

[rocco&quiras mama]

In sweden you cant register a pitbull ( in the swedish kennel club ) and we only have a very small number of pure bred Pitbulls (i think under 200.)
but alot of ppl with pit mixes say ( and belive ) they have a pitbull.
it´s pit/am staffs, pit/rotties, pit/mastiffs and so on..
I have a shelter pitmix ( 50% pit 25%GS and the remaining 25% is rottie and leonberger )
i live in a neighbourhood where there are lotz of pit mixes and i only know of one that i wouldnt let mear me or my dogs.

The only dogs ( besides that pitmix ) i cant stand are the small annoying dogs who have no "manners" what so ever.

Last night I was on a walk with Quira ( my pitmix ) and walked by a mother and her small child ( maybe 3 years old ) and the mother says to the kid : look at the cute little doggie ! and came right up to us and told her daughter to pet her... ( something you shoulndt do no matter what breed )
Good thing Quira loves everybody and would bend over backwords for a hug *S*

I have respect for all dogs ( even chihua )