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Okay, so I'm thinking about getting a bird, but I don't really know which type of bird I should get. So, I was wondering if the bird owners on Chaz could help me out!

What I'd like:
-A natural affinity for people.
-Low to medium noise level, as I have an apartment, and I can't have something squawking and screaming all day. Constant chattering is fine, but it needs to be of the low volume variety.
-Moderate attention needs - I'd be able to give the bird a couple hours a day of attention, free flight, outside cage time, but I need something that can entertain itself while I'm at work and school (about eight hours a day).

Thanks guys!
 

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I would recommend a parrotlet :)

they are great fiesty friendly active yet not loud little guys




Positively Parrotlets: "the tiny parrot with the big personality"



Birds i would definetly not recommend.. the cockatoo, the amazon, macaw, and the sun conure.


A cockateil would work for you :) they are VERY human friendly, they even very easily learn sounds




and a VERY underestimated parrot (and one of my personal favorites) THE SENEGAL!
At around 10 inches in length, Senegal Parrots are medium sized birds that are known to be one of the quietest parrot species. While they do vocalize and have the ability to talk, they are far less likely to screech and scream than other medium and large sized parrots.



Of course, do lots of research.

remember that low volume is a relative term lol these birds are quiet IN COMPARISON to other parrots. go to a petstore and have a listen to a bird you plan on getting before bringing them home just to make sure the sound is ok (check out youtube videos also)
 

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I was also thinking about getting a bird, and had basically the same requirements.

What's the difference between a Senegal and parrotlets? as far as size of cage, whether they need to be solitary or have "roommate" birds, diet, lifespan, etc.?

I see senegals all the time on Craigslist, I always thought that meant they were difficult to take care of or something.
 

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I was also thinking about getting a bird, and had basically the same requirements.

What's the difference between a Senegal and parrotlets? as far as size of cage, whether they need to be solitary or have "roommate" birds, diet, lifespan, etc.?

I see senegals all the time on Craigslist, I always thought that meant they were difficult to take care of or something.
Parrotlets are itty bitty little guys lol senegals are quite bigger

heres a parrotlet on a hand


Senegals need bigger cage and they are higher maintenance. More toys, bigger cage, more out of cage time etc..

BUT they are amazing birds. one of my faves. a good sene will make you laugh everyday and can learn so much



Parrotlets can have a buddy (but they may not bond to you) and senegals are usually kept alone

Diet is NOT SEEDS! lol high quality bird pellets in best, then fruits/veggies/pasta etc.. every day lol for the most part, whatever is good for you, is good for you and variety is fun!

im not sure about lifespan, but senegals do live longer

Birds are EXPENSIVE when it comes to vet care but they don't need it very often, which is good

no way around it lol they are messy. they love to make a mess

avoid "cutesy" oddly shaped cages. they are hard to clean and not the best for your bird..
 

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I think people mistakenly assume that smaller parrots are less "parrot like". They're still like toddlers.

I love Parrotlets. Sweet, sweet little birds. And full of personality, in a tiny package.

I happen to love conures. I want a green cheek when we have a bit more room. They seem to be on the quieter end of conures. I just love conure personalities.

And, although my bird is a devil, my African Grey (Timneh) is quite quiet. He never screams. I've had him for 13 years, and he's still quiet:p But, greys do need quite large cages.

Also, since whatever bird you get will spend some time in his or her cage, get the largest one you are able to. Larger cages mean a larger amount of enriching toys can be in there.
 

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this is one of those all around every bird cage lol works from everything from a parottlet to a senegal

its is inexpensive, yet durable, high quality and VERY easy to clean
Havana Flight Cage - Small Bird Cages at Bird Cages

nice even shape perfect for climbing, top part is flat to add a play area/toys

and the cage is nice and BIG! plenty of space for toys, food, happy hut, etc..
 
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I'll look into the Senegal and Parrotlets...I'm going to rule out the Cockatiel, though. Purely personal preference, I just don't like them very much.

I was also thinking about a parakeet. How noisy are they, typically?

Another possibility was a dove. They are naturally calm and quiet, but not very playful/active.
 

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I'll look into the Senegal and Parrotlets...I'm going to rule out the Cockatiel, though. Purely personal preference, I just don't like them very much.

I was also thinking about a parakeet. How noisy are they, typically?

Another possibility was a dove. They are naturally calm and quiet, but not very playful/active.
parakeets, if you only have one, aren't very noisy at all. its really just low constant chirping/chattering to themselves and most of that is in the morning/evening.

DO NOT PUT A MIRROR IN THEIR CAGE! lol they become obsessive

parakeets are very overlooked because they are common, but with patience, they can learn to speak VERY well and are very sweet friendly little birds. can't believe i forgot about them lol

they come in every color you can think of and they are inexpensive to keep entertained because their little toys are very inexpensive (1$ usually)
 
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Okay, cool. I think it's between parakeets and doves. I love the look of the larger birds, but this IS my first bird, and I want something that I know for sure I can handle.
 

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Okay, cool. I think it's between parakeets and doves. I love the look of the larger birds, but this IS my first bird, and I want something that I know for sure I can handle.
parakeets I can answer any question you may have

but I know NOTHING about doves other than they are white and pretty lol
 
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Okay...here goes...

Would they be fine flying loose as long as I can supervise them?

How affectionate are they?

How hard are they to hand-tame?

I would most likely get more than one. Do they like living together? Which gender combination is best?

What kind of volume of noise do they make?
 

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Would they be fine flying loose as long as I can supervise them?

Yes. but make sure its a same room and catching them is another story lol
turn off ceiling fans and take basic precautions and you should be fine

How affectionate are they?
once they are tamed, extremely. kissy and talky and just sweet little birds

How hard are they to hand-tame?
if you get a keet from a breeder very easy since they are handled since birth. the ones from the store require PATIENCE. first off, find a young one (look for the black lines on their forehead). look for a bird that is curious and healthy.
it takes a lot of patience.. its sticking ur hand in the cage and leaving it there FOREVER. sitting next to the cage and reading a book. teaching them to get on a stick, then your finger. lots of food rewards, millet is a big favorite. its a slow process, but more than worth it in theend

I would most likely get more than one. Do they like living together? Which gender combination is best?

for gender combo, 2 girls has worked well with me. taming 2 is hard.. since they are much more interested in eachother then you. ive always had 2.. but ive never bothered with taming them more than "step up" on a stick so i could clean the cage

they LOVE living together lol lots of cuddling, kissing, playing etc.. they are so fun to watch and not to mention soo soo cute

What kind of volume of noise do they make?

its a kind of chatter. its quiet for bird standards but its a lot of just.. squeaky chatter lol having 2 brings up the noise a bit because they talk to eachother

its a lot of this.. YouTube - Talkative Parakeets
 

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What species of dove? I have experience with ringnecks.
*bolded part mine*
Okay...here goes...

Would they be fine flying loose as long as I can supervise them?

as long as you have no other animals that will hurt them loose, like cats, ferrets, some dogs, etc. Our doves had two favorite perches when loose in the house. One was on top of the entertainment center and the other on the china cabinet. I just lined those two spaces with newspaper, and changed the top layer every day because they pretty much only sat there and flew between the spots once in a while, or back to their cage to eat.

How affectionate are they?

Ringnecks tame down easily with handling, even if they were parent raised. They are naturally sweet, docile, and trusting animals. They seem to get attached to people, but at the same time aren't terribly bright. Once they are comfortable with people they are pretty much happy to hang out with anyone.

How hard are they to hand-tame?

See above

I would most likely get more than one. Do they like living together? Which gender combination is best?

Yes they like a friend. The only problems I have had was a very bullyish male that picked on his submissive male cagemate's head feathers. That doesn't seem to be super typical but two females or a male/female pair should do fine. Our other males were fine too, so that can work out.

What kind of volume of noise do they make?

Medium. They make a coo cahhoohooohooo sound and a laughing nasal hawhawhaw. Some people, it will drive nuts. I love it personally. I recommend you spend a little time around some cooing ringnecks before bringing one home to see if it's a sound you like, or you tolerate.
You know, I would also recommend you look into coturnix quail and serama chickens. They aren't the first thing that comes to mind for an indoor apartment bird, but they are very well suited.

Coturnix are very domesticated compared to other cage birds. They were domesticated prior to the 12th century. Coturnix are VERY docile. You can take an adult bird that has never been handled and pick it up, hold it, pet it, and the bird just looks at you with a happy trusting face. They are more like guinea pigs than birds. I used to put a dish towel in my lap and hold them while I watched TV. They were perfectly content to snuggle and get petted and be held for hours.

They also do not require much space at all. A normal sized birdcage appropriate for budgies or doves would be perfect for a pair of coturnix. Coturnix come in several different colors, black, white, wild type, tuxedo, etc.

Another side bonus is that the hens start laying at 7-8 weeks old, and can lay 200-300 eggs a year. They are so good, and cute! About the size of a quarter and minty green with little speckles. :D





Here's a good article on them:
BirdTrade.co.uk - Archives Blog Archive Keeping Quails



Seramas, well, they are special. Hard to find good ones, but if you can get a hen or two they are a lot of fun as indoor birds. Chickens from Malaysia, smaller than a pop can. They actually do much better indoors than out because they are adapted to a tropical climate and can't handle the kind of dampness and drafts range chickens are adapted to. THey come in hundreds of beautiful colors.


 
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Thanks for all the great information Romy! I'll check out those other birds you mentioned.

So, I take it the dove noise is more of a low-pitched noise? It's that shrill, screeching that I can't stand...
 

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Yeah, it's a lower pitch. I never once heard them make any kind of higher pitched sound. They do start kind of early in the morning though, so make sure you like it. :p

Actually here is a video that shows exactly how they sound. I had one that would quack very loudly at the end of each coo, like the one in the video but louder. :rofl1:
YouTube - Ringneck Dove Cooing

This one has the laughing sound at the very beginning.
YouTube - Ringneck Dove Bow Coo and Laugh
 

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parrotlets, i have experience with
great small birds but they need BIG parrot attention. they need a much large cage than one would expect for such a tiny bird, and prefer a cage that is longer than taller with LOTS of toys.

hand fed babies are the best choice for a pet, but are a little more expensive than a budgie or teil.
they do however come in LOTS of colors, and have great big personalities. all the p-lets ive been around are typical parrots in the sence that they can be tempermental and have bad days, but are generally sweet, loving, cuddly and little tiny clowns, very playfull...
P-lets can speak, but ususally not very clear and when they do the pitch is so high they sound like tiny little robots!
noise level = LOW, these guys will make noise, and it can be noise thats suprisingly large for a tiny bird...but these noisy periods are usually few and far between, and short lived.
Boo, my temp p-let last year wouldhave about 2 minutes every morning where he would just squick and go on at everything in his cage...during that time you could hear him in other parts of the house (though not clearly), however the rest of the time, nothing...hed make soft chips and pips at me when out and snuggling...

budgies ("parakeets") make great pets, there is 2 types, the american style, ones youll be more likley to find here, which is a smaller, thinner bird, they can talk, but are more likely to pick up whistles and sounds than words.
and the english budgie, the english are a stocker bird with an "old man" type face (larger head and feathering makes them sometimes look grumpy. the english are however more likely to talk than the american (selective breeding)
both types are however the same bird, budgerigars.
unlike MOST other parrots, budgies are actually best bought as YOUNG parent raised birds, hand fed budgioes are often nicknamed "piranah birds" as they are not shy and belive all fingers = food
budgies are one of the easiest birds to tame from young even parent raised budgies will become extreemly people friendly when given the right anount of time and attention.
Noise level=medium, a single budgie alone will generally chirp and cheep but the volume inst enough to bother most people, get a pair though and it definatly increases volume.

green cheek conures...these little guys are about teil sized, and probably the only "apartment suitable" conure...
like all conures greencheeks can be loud (especially compared to their body size) however greencheeks are known for being "inactive" in terms of sound, generally they will have a moment in the morning and evening (typical bird noise times) and when their suprised/upset with something. these little hissy fits are generally short live enough to not realy bother neighbors.
they can talk...like plets they have little robotic voices, some greencheeks will and some wont talk.
they are VERY playfull little birds, they like lots of toys and a relitivly large cage, they also tend to become very attatched to their people and love attention.
they can also be quite the snuggle bugs
noise level = medium-high, they have a big voice for such a little bird, but compared to conures (and most other parrots) they are "quiet" birds and uusally apartment suitable.

parakeets (true parakeets including grass and linnies) (these are different form the "parakeets" sold in stores here in the us who arnt true parakeets but budgerigars)
like budgies in most sense, most of the parakeets arnt big talkers, but they make up for it (particularly the linnies) in personality, great little birds, low noise level.

one thing to keep in mind is cage size.
cages are ALWAYS marketed too small...
a cage marked "suitable for cockateils and similar sized birds is realy the MINIMUM size for a single parakeet, a parrolet needs a large finch/canary flight cage MINIMUM, teils and smaller conures need a cage thats labled for large conures/small parrots and those small parrots need a cage thats usually sold for small macaws...

always get bigger, just be sure to check the bar spacing.

personally i want another p-let (i fell in love with boo), a greencheek, or a hahns macaw.
but ive also put thought into a lovebird, and liniolated parakeets...
 

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If you are looking for a bird who isn't a screamer I would stay way from most if not all of the conures. Even the quieter ones are still quite loud. Cockatiels are great for low to med noise level but are MESSY birds even with pellets. For some reason they take great pleasure in flinging things out of their cage. Parrotlets are great little birds but do require big parrot attention. Sengals are great birds(I might be a bit biased here, I have 2). They can be loud at times but not a constant noise unless they find someone who will yell back at them (my SIL does this). They will however alarm call but with my two if I say I know and get up to check it out they will quiet right down. They can be fine with just a couple of hours a day interaction. They are also not to big or two small. Love birds are another choice. Although I would NOT get a pair other wise they will bond to each other.
 

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If you are looking for a bird who isn't a screamer I would stay way from most if not all of the conures. Even the quieter ones are still quite loud. Cockatiels are great for low to med noise level but are MESSY birds even with pellets. For some reason they take great pleasure in flinging things out of their cage. Parrotlets are great little birds but do require big parrot attention. Sengals are great birds(I might be a bit biased here, I have 2). They can be loud at times but not a constant noise unless they find someone who will yell back at them (my SIL does this). They will however alarm call but with my two if I say I know and get up to check it out they will quiet right down. They can be fine with just a couple of hours a day interaction. They are also not to big or two small. Love birds are another choice. Although I would NOT get a pair other wise they will bond to each other.
Love birds I would not recommend. They are extremely shrill and LOUD. If you try to keep a single one it will shriek constantly looking for others of its kind. I had a pair in middle school, and they constantly kept having babies, at one point I had 27 lovebirds thanks to them.:yikes:

They can be very affectionate, but if kept in pairs they are not very affectionate with their owners. Singletons are loud like I mentioned, but they also need TONS of interaction and become so bonded to their owner that losing the owner can produce the same effect as losing a mate. One of my singleton females bonded to my brother so strongly that she started attacking every single woman in the household. She gave me 4 stitches on the hand once and I was the one who hand raised her from a tiny pink jellybean. When she tried to gouge out his date's eyes we realized she needed a new home where she could have a lovebird mate to bond with.

The other drawback is they have very strong beaks, and if left unsupervised outside the cage can get quite destructive. More than once Charlie and Ollie (my pair) let themselves out of their cage and ate my homework, among other things like furniture....binding off an entire shelf of books.....holes in my shoes...the head off my pinata, you get the idea.
 

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