No offence, but i wouldn't just rely on what a website says, or even what a book says. I'd talk and LISTEN to what people who are experienced with not only the working lines of the breeds you are interested in but also know a lot about what you are wanting to undertake. It doesn't seem you want to really listen and take in what people here who do have that knowledge are trying to say.
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If you have a guard dog that is a dog that has more than likely been trained to guard. A lot of these breeds are great protecters based on their looks but no matter what breed you get unless the dog has had training I wouldn't call it a guard dog.
You mention dobes but thay are not what I would call a guard dog,protection maybe. They look at a situation and analyuze ti and do what they should. I would expect my dobe to protect me,hes done it before,but to guard a junk yard or something is not for them.
If you are looking for a breed and are going to invest not training the best you will end up with is a visual deterent. Maybe your dog will want to protect you and your property if a threat arises or maybe it won't.
If you think a dobe will come into your home and jsut be a "guard dog" you have alot to learn and should NOT own a dobe. A dog site that says mixed breeds are a dog breed is not a good site to go to for info. Maybe listen to those of us that own them. IF you want a guard dog you are going to be spending a lot of money for a professionally trained dog. Shepherds are what I see done most commonly but I have run across some rott and dobes also. I think it was in florida I saw an add for a place that claimed they coud, tkae any dog and make it a guard dog.
If you actually researched this-which you obviously haven't you would see that dobes are nto said to beed guard trianing because they are nto reccomended to work for guard training! Guarding is like a junk yard dog and dobes are people dogs. You hav e alot to learn before you get one of these dogs and I seriouesly hope you change your mind.
You mention dobes but thay are not what I would call a guard dog,protection maybe. They look at a situation and analyuze ti and do what they should. I would expect my dobe to protect me,hes done it before,but to guard a junk yard or something is not for them.
If you are looking for a breed and are going to invest not training the best you will end up with is a visual deterent. Maybe your dog will want to protect you and your property if a threat arises or maybe it won't.
If you think a dobe will come into your home and jsut be a "guard dog" you have alot to learn and should NOT own a dobe. A dog site that says mixed breeds are a dog breed is not a good site to go to for info. Maybe listen to those of us that own them. IF you want a guard dog you are going to be spending a lot of money for a professionally trained dog. Shepherds are what I see done most commonly but I have run across some rott and dobes also. I think it was in florida I saw an add for a place that claimed they coud, tkae any dog and make it a guard dog.
If you actually researched this-which you obviously haven't you would see that dobes are nto said to beed guard trianing because they are nto reccomended to work for guard training! Guarding is like a junk yard dog and dobes are people dogs. You hav e alot to learn before you get one of these dogs and I seriouesly hope you change your mind.
I agree any of the dogs listed will naturally try defend you. What you need to do is figure out what breed fits your lifestyle the best. Do you want a dog that gets hyper, requires a lot of mental stimulation, gets bored easy, needs a lot of exercise, is good with kids as a puppy, the feeding bill, size of your yard etc. Take all of this into consideration. Each one has different traits, good and bad. Info like this, could help us to help you.
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Ok, I do not see anything wrong with having a dog who will protect its family with his life. If you want a dog who will protect your family then get a GSD, rottie, doberman, mastiff, or akita. Those breeds will attack if their family is threatened, and they will bark to warn you of intruders. They dont need any training if you get one from a good breeder. I am sure there are other breeds out there who will protect their family also.
Anyone who says a German shepherd will not attack if they feel their family is threatened does not know their breed or has a GSD with wrong temperament.
Even a show GSD should and WILL protect it's family from an intruder. Rocky is from German showlines and VERY protective when it comes to endangerment of his territory or his valuables (me).
To say, a German shepherd will not guard is simply not true.
There's wide variety of beautiful, wonderful dogs you can raise to be family dogs... once they see you as valuable (treat them well, obedience train them, socialize, etc.), they will do anything to protect you.
I'm not sure how experienced you are with handling big dogs or dogs at all-- so I think a Doberman would be perfect for you to sort of "start" with.
Even a show GSD should and WILL protect it's family from an intruder. Rocky is from German showlines and VERY protective when it comes to endangerment of his territory or his valuables (me).
To say, a German shepherd will not guard is simply not true.
There's wide variety of beautiful, wonderful dogs you can raise to be family dogs... once they see you as valuable (treat them well, obedience train them, socialize, etc.), they will do anything to protect you.
I'm not sure how experienced you are with handling big dogs or dogs at all-- so I think a Doberman would be perfect for you to sort of "start" with.
I was not meaning they cant guard.I was trying to point out the original purpose which is Herding.My GSDs will not attack they will use nessesary force ie.knocking down and holding the intruder.I however would never let it get to that point anyways.If I am home it is my job as the leader of my pack to take care of things.Typically If I am not home my Show Girl is with me and Sasha is loose.I have had strangers walk into my house with me not here and all she did was keep them from coming inside not attack.A well Bred GSD should be able to react according to threat level not just full on attack.I am sorry but I was angry in my last post so maybe I was misunderstood.Anyways I know I know about my breed and if people need to jump on me for stating the original purpose there is no sense in staying on this forum.
I have to disagree with everyone saying you have to train a dog to guard.... (You need to train any and all dogs period) If you want a professionally trained guard dog (yes) you go buy just that....I will agree that not all dogs have a natural ability to do so, and would require training. Just to name one that I know of, rottys have to be trained to accept people (strangers) not trained to reject them ..in my experience and my opinion a rotty with basic obedience training And socialization, will guard you and your family its that simple (most of the time), now your going to have to get a good dog from good lines, And you will be happy and safe ... We have some rottys over here you couldn't get past the screen door...never have these dogs been trained to be aggressive towards people, just the opposite has been applied, come in unannounced Jake will put you against the wall and wont let you move, wont bite or attack just hold you, never ever has anyone taught him that. Every rotty I know does his own version of protection method usually they don't let you leave, maybe its just a coincidence but I seriously doubt it ...I guess if your a hard core dog person into guard work that's not good enough. But for this guy wanting to protect his family cost effectively .I see no problem with the rotty,and to call a rotty just a watch dog would be a mistake, trained or not.. You go in there I'm not....And thats all I have to say about that.....
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If someone breaks in the front door the first thing he'll see is a mouth full of 2" teeth flying at his neck/shoulders. All it takes is a milisecond for a dog to disable an intruder and then neutralize him.
Unless its a swat team trained with weapons there is no chance for the theif.
Front door is the only point of entry in my house as all other windows, doors are made with bullet resistant plexiglass.
If someone breaks in without weapons, well, they are not gonna live for too long.
I wonder what the ratio is of thieves breaking into houses that have dogs to houses of not havnig dogs? I've lived in some pretty rough areas (on a reservation, on the edges of Chicago, etc) and as long as I've had a dog (regardless of breed) I've had no problems....
Maybe I'm lucky... personally I just think it's the mere PRESENCE of my dog that does the trick. Of course, what most thieves don't know is that my dog is crated during the day. He is housetrained, but I crate him for his personal safety for such events, and/or any accidents he could get himself into.
Also, I'd personally rather have my house robbed and my dog left alive and safe in his crate. Id much rather have my dog than just about any of my other possessions.
Maybe I'm lucky... personally I just think it's the mere PRESENCE of my dog that does the trick. Of course, what most thieves don't know is that my dog is crated during the day. He is housetrained, but I crate him for his personal safety for such events, and/or any accidents he could get himself into.
Also, I'd personally rather have my house robbed and my dog left alive and safe in his crate. Id much rather have my dog than just about any of my other possessions.
The problem with having the dog in the crate, is that your dog is horribly vulnerable. The first thing that's going to happen is your dog is going to be silenced . . . and it has no chance in a crate.
My bunch is a bit sneaky. They may bark a bit at first, but then they become lurkers and will ambush, lol!
My bunch is a bit sneaky. They may bark a bit at first, but then they become lurkers and will ambush, lol!
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I heard a news report that said burglers will case a place first...if there is a dog they will avoid that home and go for a home either without a good alarm system or without a dog. Any dog that barks is a good warning for any would be theif...and unless you have some really valuable items in possession then a burgler is not going to go to a whole lot of trouble breaking in.
My Sister was traveling with her Standard Poodle once through a major city for a grooming expo...her truck was almost car jacked waiting at a stop light...her Poodle was laying down...as soon as he opened the door and tried to jump in the Poodle sat up, he jumped back out and ran.
As for having a trained attack dog to protect your children. Unless you "really" know what your doing, understand predatory drift, understand motor patterns...then it's not a good idea. I can't tell you how many times I have heard of innocent children being attacked "protecting" thier masters children. These friends may have playing roughly with their friend in the house etc.
I am actually a person who was attacked by a German Shepherd when I was younger due to playing with my friend.
My friends mother was showing Shepherds and had a male that really bonded to her daughter. We were playing in the house supervised by her mother, the dog at her feet...when I tripped and fell on top of my friend...before anyone could respond the dog was on top of me and had a hold of my face. I still have the scars on my jaw bone and hair line. The dog and I got along very well in every other circumstance...it was just that moment when he thought his little owner was being threatened.
Even in societies where dogs are all feral and not pets they usually have thier little bit of territory of peoples backyards. The dogs even not owned by humans will bark alarms when someone they don't know approaches. I was reading up on that and found it very interesting. So, normally dogs do not need training to bark at suspecious strangers.
Any breed of dog will do as a home alarm system.
I heard a news report that said burglers will case a place first...if there is a dog they will avoid that home and go for a home either without a good alarm system or without a dog. Any dog that barks is a good warning for any would be theif...and unless you have some really valuable items in possession then a burgler is not going to go to a whole lot of trouble breaking in.
My Sister was traveling with her Standard Poodle once through a major city for a grooming expo...her truck was almost car jacked waiting at a stop light...her Poodle was laying down...as soon as he opened the door and tried to jump in the Poodle sat up, he jumped back out and ran.
As for having a trained attack dog to protect your children. Unless you "really" know what your doing, understand predatory drift, understand motor patterns...then it's not a good idea. I can't tell you how many times I have heard of innocent children being attacked "protecting" thier masters children. These friends may have playing roughly with their friend in the house etc.
I am actually a person who was attacked by a German Shepherd when I was younger due to playing with my friend.
My friends mother was showing Shepherds and had a male that really bonded to her daughter. We were playing in the house supervised by her mother, the dog at her feet...when I tripped and fell on top of my friend...before anyone could respond the dog was on top of me and had a hold of my face. I still have the scars on my jaw bone and hair line. The dog and I got along very well in every other circumstance...it was just that moment when he thought his little owner was being threatened.
Even in societies where dogs are all feral and not pets they usually have thier little bit of territory of peoples backyards. The dogs even not owned by humans will bark alarms when someone they don't know approaches. I was reading up on that and found it very interesting. So, normally dogs do not need training to bark at suspecious strangers.
Any breed of dog will do as a home alarm system.