Article on some new USDA information

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Absolutely NOTHING wrong with being prepared. The 7 P's... Proper prior planning prevents **** poor performance. Seriously I don't understand why preparedness equals paranoia or "tin foil conspiracy" these days. It used to be just plain common sense. Seems to be the whole "if something happens someone else will take care of me" mentality these days.

People laugh "haha yeah best way to have power is to kill off your citizens"... Just shows how spoiled and removed we are. You know, this actually does take place in the world, right?
This thread isn't the only obvious posts she's paranoid. The multiple posts in the venting thread "guy was crazy today, government wants me dead" posts all point to it ;)


ETA: I think we have incredibly different definitions of preparedness, if you have seen that in this thread o_O
 

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This thread isn't the only obvious posts she's paranoid. The multiple posts in the venting thread "guy was crazy today, government wants me dead" posts all point to it ;)


ETA: I think we have incredibly different definitions of preparedness, if you have seen that in this thread o_O
You can't tell me I'm paranoid based on what you read. I prepare myself for defending myself and living on my own without help of the government and that's that. There is nothing paranoid about it, I'm just actually INFORMED and AWARE of what they are doing. I do not live my life worrying or in fear, just educating myself further and preparing for the collapse of our society. Which is sure to happen; history repeats itself after all.
 

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I did just answer it. But the fact that you think that way is laughable.
I am truly curious what are your plans for when the new world order comes? How does one prepare for such an outcome? Hide in a remote corner of the world to avoid detection? Join a rebel movement and fight back against the more technologically advanced new world government (I'm not saying this isn't possible it's been done before)? Are you moving off the grid before they take your house and town? How will you know when they come for you?
 

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I am truly curious what are your plans for when the new world order comes? How does one prepare for such an outcome? Hide in a remote corner of the world to avoid detection? Join a rebel movement and fight back against the more technologically advanced new world government (I'm not saying this isn't possible it's been done before)? Are you moving off the grid before they take your house and town? How will you know when they come for you?
All of them are an option except for moving off the grid prior. We have enough supplies and ammunition to live in a remote corner of the world without being detected (or to fight our way out of detainment) and we are already part of the "rebel movement" in Michigan known as the Michigan militia. We can defend ourselves and survive as much as should be needed. Can we ward off an army? No. But an army isn't going to come for a handful of people.
 

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Absolutely NOTHING wrong with being prepared. The 7 P's... Proper prior planning prevents **** poor performance. Seriously I don't understand why preparedness equals paranoia or "tin foil conspiracy" these days. It used to be just plain common sense. Seems to be the whole "if something happens someone else will take care of me" mentality these days.

People laugh "haha yeah best way to have power is to kill off your citizens"... Just shows how spoiled and removed we are. You know, this actually does take place in the world, right?
This.

I don't hate the government, but I don't trust it, just like I don't trust large corporations. It's delusional to believe that these entities have the interests of myself, my family, and my community at heart-why WOULD I trust them? Ask the Native Americans about the wisdom of taking what the US government says at face value....

I'm not a paranoid person, no tin foil hats here, I don't want to move to Canada (too much BSL, snow, and weird bacon :D), and we don't own a gun. However, the longer I live, the more cynical I become about our political system and the more interested I become in becoming less dependent in general.
 

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Absolutely NOTHING wrong with being prepared. The 7 P's... Proper prior planning prevents **** poor performance. Seriously I don't understand why preparedness equals paranoia or "tin foil conspiracy" these days. It used to be just plain common sense. Seems to be the whole "if something happens someone else will take care of me" mentality these days.

People laugh "haha yeah best way to have power is to kill off your citizens"... Just shows how spoiled and removed we are. You know, this actually does take place in the world, right?

This.

I don't hate the government, but I don't trust it, just like I don't trust large corporations. It's delusional to believe that these entities have the interests of myself, my family, and my community at heart-why WOULD I trust them? Ask the Native Americans about the wisdom of taking what the US government says at face value....

I'm not a paranoid person, no tin foil hats here, I don't want to move to Canada (too much BSL, snow, and weird bacon :D), and we don't own a gun. However, the longer I live, the more cynical I become about our political system.

I don't see anyone objecting to preparedness?? Preparedness is fine. People are having chuckle about the ABSOLUTE 100% CERTAINTY that the US Government is, AT PRESENT, trying to kill or enslave you, and to become supreme masters of the world.

Seriously???

If that isn't paranoid/a tin foil hat conspiracy, WHAT IS???
 
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There are too many people in the country and world right now to be controlled by the people in power that want to take it over. They are killing us in the masses (big pharma, GMOs, false flag attacks) to reduce our population to a controllable size to take resources from us and ultimately detain us. They're taking away our rights to make it easier (gun control) and they're distracting us to make sure no one notices (civil rights, sports, mainstream media).
As a master plan, this doesn't even remotely make any sort of logical sense. Why in the world would anyone waste their time and resources detaining people? People in power already have... money and power. And they get and maintain that money and power by maintaining the status quo, not tearing it down and replacing it with a detained population to house and feed on their own dime.
 

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And ya I joke about things I have no real control over, and I don't see anything wrong with doing that. If a new world order comes, well then it comes nothing I can do about it. I have a survival pack stocked at all times for Search and Rescue, survival training, and a trained search dog. I'm probably more prepared without even planning for it than most.
 

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I don't see anyone objecting to preparedness?? Preparedness is fine. People are having chuckle about the ABSOLUTE 100% CERTAINTY that the US Government is, AT PRESENT, trying to kill and/or enslave you, and to become supreme masters of the world.

Seriously???

If that isn't paranoid/a tin foil hat conspiracy, WHAT IS???
It's funny though, you're laughing at me for my beliefs, but I'm laughing just as much that you (general) can be so naive and dense and think that it just couldn't happen to you. It disappoints me as a human to know that people are more worried about a marriage certificate than the food we are consuming that could be killing off our population and other similar distractions from reality.
 
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I am truly curious what are your plans for when the new world order comes? How does one prepare for such an outcome? Hide in a remote corner of the world to avoid detection? Join a rebel movement and fight back against the more technologically advanced new world government (I'm not saying this isn't possible it's been done before)? Are you moving off the grid before they take your house and town? How will you know when they come for you?
I spent the ages of nine to fourteen studying for the contingency of joining a rebel force and restoring the rightful government, I for one am prepared (at 15 I went on a sci-fi kick and started preparing for first contact. Have spacesuit, will travel!)
 
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Actually if the government manages to kill off all the people I don't like, this new world order thing could be win-win for me.
 

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I don't know. I kind of have a problem with the mindset that if we don't agree then it's ok to ridicule people to tears or to their breaking point. They may or may not be paranoid but what makes it OK to tease and ridicule and bully? Isn't this what we are fighting against for kids in school?

Veil it however you want... Tough love, speaking the truth, being honest. Bring your FACTS. But to just flat out make fun? Why? Whwn it happens to you (like people say you aren't a fit pet owner, etc) IT SUCKS right? So stop doing it to others.
 

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It's funny though, you're laughing at me for my beliefs, but I'm laughing just as much that you (general) can be so naive and dense and think that it just couldn't happen to you. It disappoints me as a human to know that people are more worried about a marriage certificate than the food we are consuming that could be killing off our population and other similar distractions from reality.
It's not that I think I'm so special that it could never happen me. It isn't that I think the society I live in could never fall apart. Even in the West we aren't that far removed from things like the Holocaust and two world wars... history is full of ups and downs and it seems nothing lasts forever, so I don't really expect that what we have now is an exception to that.

That said, I don't see any good evidence of the US government trying to kill, unjustly detain or enslave its people en masse.... and certainly not trying to form a new world order. The story I've gotten about the usage of GMO crops in university makes way more sense then the one you're giving me.
 

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Live and let live people.
Nobody is trying to draft you into the whatever militia or force you to prepare for the new world order.
Who is it hurting, really?

Do I think us being enslaved and made infertile and killed off by our government is a little far fetched? yes.
But I also think people religion, and people who believe in horoscopes are kind of crazy too, it's just not something I personally "get"...doesn't make it ok to make fun or tear apart their beliefs if they aren't hurting anyone.

and I'm pretty sure there are things I believe in that other people think is really nuts.

I honest to goodness think that dragons used to exist.
They appear in literature and art ALL OVER THE WORLD from nations that had NO way of passing these stories on or communicating.
You tell me.
Is it crazy?
Of course it is lol but I believe it!! I know better and yet I totally believe it. I find them fascinating and I love them so there. Maybe it's crazy but there it is.

and it would hurt to have a bunch of people gang up and tell me how stupid I am for believing in something.
I am not trying to draft you into my "dragons were real and are really cool" club.
So who cares?!
 

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I honest to goodness think that dragons used to exist.
They appear in literature and art ALL OVER THE WORLD from nations that had NO way of passing these stories on or communicating.
You tell me.
Is it crazy?
Of course it is lol but I believe it!! I know better and yet I totally believe it.

and I am not trying to draft you into my "dragons were real and are really cool" club.
So who cares?!
See I think Dragons and Dinosaurs are the same thing. I think Dragons were drawn up and described when fossils were found by ancient people, the ancient people then gave these creatures extra powers as a part of human story telling. But Honestly the physical look between dragons and some dinosaurs is so similar, and the fact that dinosaurs were found all over the world(like dragons) it's a very strong possibility. So yes I think, in a sense, dragons did exist. I just don't believe in their super powers.
 

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I don't know. I kind of have a problem with the mindset that if we don't agree then it's ok to ridicule people to tears or to their breaking point. They may or may not be paranoid but what makes it OK to tease and ridicule and bully? Isn't this what we are fighting against for kids in school?

Veil it however you want... Tough love, speaking the truth, being honest. Bring your FACTS. But to just flat out make fun? Why? Whwn it happens to you (like people say you aren't a fit pet owner, etc) IT SUCKS right? So stop doing it to others.
This--good grief.
 
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See I think Dragons and Dinosaurs are the same thing. I think Dragons were drawn up and described when fossils were found by ancient people, the ancient people then gave these creatures extra powers as a part of human story telling. But Honestly the physical look between dragons and some dinosaurs is so similar, and the fact that dinosaurs were found all over the world(like dragons) it's a very strong possibility. So yes I think, in a sense, dragons did exist. I just don't believe in their super powers.
Dinosaurs still exist. Marsh and I are training for dinosaur hunting all weekend!
 

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