Anyone have a Wolf Hybrid? (no hating please)

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Anyone here have experiance raising a wolf hybrid? Please post your experiances and tips with them. I know there are a few people here who are against wolf hybrids, so if your one of them, please dont reply in my thread.

Ive talked to a few people who have wolf hybrids and they say they never had any aggresion problems. Ruckus is still a bit shy around people, but I take him out alot so he's improving. He picks on dogs smaller than him, but is playful around dogs larger than him. He play bites/nips at me when he's too excited, but im correcting him each time he does it. I think he'll do ok. Hes in training class and hes scheduled to be neutered when hes 6 months.

Ruckus is:
75% Wolf (Timber/Gray, Red, Black, Canadian Buffalo)
20% Husky
5% Malamute/Belgian Sheppard


 
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Well you are going to have your hands very full. Why are you waiting until 6 months to get him neutered? I would not recomend a wolf hybrid to anyone, but I am not going to explain myself, because you probably are not going to want to hear it. I wish you the best of luck, and you are going to need alot of it!!
 
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don't get me wrong, I have nothing against Wolf Hybrids
ifact I really like Ruckus, he is a beautiful puppy :)

here are some myths and facts regarding Wolf Hybrids

MYTH: A wolf hybrid will make a better guard dog.
FACT: Due to the shy nature of wolves, hybrids usually make poor protection dogs. Aggressive tendencies, if any, in the hybrid may be fear induced and as such, can be unpredictable and hard to control.

MYTH: A wolf hybrid will live longer than a dog.
FACT: The life span of a wolf in captivity is 12-14 years-the same as a large dog.


MYTH: Hybrids are healthier than dogs, and are less prone to disease.
FACT: Wolves and dogs are prone to the same infectious diseases. There may be some question as to the efficacy of standard dog vaccines in wolves and some hybrids.


MYTH: Huskies and malamutes are part wolf.
FACT: Huskies and malamutes are breeds of dogs, like any other.
 

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I have owned a wolf hybrid (wolfdog). Please, I'm not trying to rain on your parade, but here are some things you should realistically expect. A lot of breeders don't let people know these things when they get their hybrid originally. A disclaimer: depending on the genes your pup has inherited, these issues may or may not arise. But since you have a pretty high percentage wolfdog, it is most likely these issues will happen. Now, these things usually won't happen until your pup reaches maturity and its adult temperament, but you still need to be on guard for them.

1. They are far more dominant than any domestic dog could ever hope to be. With a wolf, pack heirachy is everything. Domestic dogs, while they can be pushy, usually aren't out to take over your world. Wolfdogs are. If you read books on dog training, there are tips on how to deal with very dominant dogs: things such as going through doorways first, eating first, long downs, etc. You will need to these things with your pup from day one. Expect challenges to your authority throughout the life of your wolfdog, and don't ever back down.

2. Wolfdogs are shy and suspicious of strangers. Notice I didn't say aggressive. Wolves were not meant to socialize with strange wolves: they were meant to avoid them or defend their territory. Prepare to kennel your wolfdog when strangers are around, and don't encourage him to be social if he's obviously afraid.

3. Wolfdogs are famous for their ability to escape enclosures. A minimum fence for a wolfdog is 8 feet, with at least 2 feet buried. Check on the internet for more info-most wolfdog sites have large sections dedicated to secure containment for a wolfdog, and they're very helpful.

4. When you feed your wolfdog, do so in an area where nobody can interfere with him. Don't try to take anything food-related from him. With wolves, possession is 100% of the law. They won't try to steal food while you're eating, and they will expect you to give them the same respect. Wolfdogs are notorious for food aggression. If you try to take food or a bone from your wolfdog, you will get bitten. Mine bit my husband for that reason, before we knew any better.

5. Never, ever let your wolfdog bite anyone. If a dog bites someone, they are quarrentined and tested for rabies. If a wolfdog bites someone, they are usually euthanized, and their head is sent to a lab and tested for rabies. That is the policy in most states, last I heard. Extremely unfair, but true.

5. The Internet is your friend when dealing with wolfdogs, but be wary. Get your info from sites of wolfdog owners, not wolfdog breeders. I've learned that most breeder sites drastically downplay the wolf's temperament in an attempt to sell more pups. On the other hand, owner's sites, (like the wolfdog coalition) are far more likely to give you accurate information.

Good luck with your wolfdog. They are beautiful, noble animals. Take care of him, and please be ready to live with his real nature, instead of parading him around like a dog and trying to force him to be a dog. Make him an example of what a properly-cared wolfdog can be.
 
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Some things I have learned from hybrid owners and my experiences interacting with hybrids:

-keep away from small children when they're playing, especially strange small children.

the playing antics of children (screaming, flailing arms, falling down randomly) tends to closely resemble an injured animal attempting to run away and this can really trigger a chase instinct in your hybrid. Even if they don't mean to hurt the child, their size and strength alone can kill the child if they tackle (even playfully!)

-don't leave them alone with small dogs or other small animals, or simply any other animal in general

Hybrids have HIGH prey drive. Higher than even a Sibe's. They see anything catchable (rabbits, ankle-biter dogs, sheep, cattle, chickens, ducks, etc) as fair game and can bring down even large animals with remarkable speed, accuracy, and determination.

-get ready to become a marathon runner!

Hybrids have TONS of endurance and TONS of energy ecause in the wild wolves would need it to cover their vast territories in search of game. This can not be expelled with a short 1hr walk every day like most dogs, they need to run for hours. If they don't get their energy expelled, they'll find their own ways to use it up such as re-decorating your house (AKA tearing everything to shreds), landscaping (AKA digging massive craters), preforming houdini tricks (AKA finding every possible method to escape in order to RUN) and other such undesirable traits. Not expending energy can even lead to them being restless and irritated which can lead to being snappy.

-huge yard is a must!

These guys want to run, and explore, and just be themselves essentially and a small yard in the middle of the city doesn't provide enough for them.

-NEVER EVER let them offleash regardless of their recall in enclosed areas

These guys are smart. They know when you have control over them and when you don't. They may be perfect angels in the house and backyard but as soon as you're in the free world they know that too and know they are in charge of themselves. Once they start running free, it's highly unlikely they'll come back until they're ready

-NILIF must be used throughout the hybrid's entire life by every member of the family who even remotely wishes to be considered Alpha. No one can ever let the dog win in dominance games.

If the hybrid ever gets the impression that one of the pack members are "weak" they'll have no problems asserting their dominance over that person AND correcting that person if they step out of line in the eyes of the hybrid.

Good luck! You'll need it
 

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I've read that article by Leerburg and don't put any store by it. His article about wolf hybrids is akin to the articles by those who call pit bulls vicious killers. Not a lot of reality.
 

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A fan of Leerburg, I am not. However, for the most part, his comments about the hybrids seem pretty accurate to everything else that has been said here already. Not about being automatic "kid killers" but the prey drive, and insticts to run and be escape artists, etc... And generally not being ideal pets.

I have never owned a hybrid. And am a firm believer of leave the wild in the wild. However, I was a vet tech for quite a few years, and in that time I did see several hybrids come in. This was years ago mind you, I don't know if things are different now, but then from the research that was out then, we didn't dare give a rabies vaccination to a hybrid. Their systems were believed to handle it differently.

Also out of maybe 15 that we saw, 14 of them were exceptionally shy and fear biters. The other one, and yes it was only ONE, was fairly friendly, but I had the advantage of knowing the animal personally which aided in my handling it for the vet. But the rest cowered under chairs and behind their owners, a few even snapped at the owners, much to their dismay, when they were in this stressfull and new situation.

I back what a few others have said, know your boundries, and don't try at any time to treat you pup like a regular dog. As it's instincts are different.
 

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Also watch out for wolf hound dogs.

I can tell by my dog and few people with same breeds that the dogs get very uneasy and agressive toward wolf hybrids.

Not huskies, part wolves. I dont know how they feel it, but he knows its not a dog.

Yeah NEVER ever let it off leash.
 

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Years ago I owned 2 hybrid's. I got one at 4 months and the other about 6 months later when she was 1 yr. Our female (Twilight) was 87% wolf and our male (Frosty) was 92%. Twilight was very "Dog like". Very friendly, very playful, very social. She looked like a wolf, she was attracted to electrical wires (a weird wolf trait, I guess!),but acted more like a dog would. Frosty, on the other hand was all wolf. He hated being inside (actually, so did Twighlight) and so we had them both chained out in the back yard, which was fenced. I tried to bring them in on a number of occasions, but no deal. Anyway, Frosy was never aggressive. He would bark if someone new came to the house and he hated men, especially if they had baseball hats (he was abused by someone at the kennel we got him from and he wore a hat). Frosty NEVER tried to approach someone he was nervous around, he always tried to back away. He never snapped at anyone. He was attacked by a little white poodle once when I was walking him. He never tried to bite at it or anything. I stepped between them and shooed it away. None of this answers your question, though. I think you are doing what is right. Socializing him (I never did that, I didn't know you were supposed too!), letting him know you are the boss. A previous poster said to never take food away from him. I feel that was bad advice. We would give both our wolves frozen salmon and then right when they really started to enjoy it, we would take it away (yes, we gave it back to them). They never got upset with us or growled at us for it, which is what we wanted. They also knew they had to sit in order to get their food. No sitting, no food. Just remember to let him know that YOU are the leader. I don't know why so many people are anti -hybrid. Like any animal, you need to research it and learn about it. I now have a chow. Go figure.
 
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You shouldn't really fix a male any sooner then that.
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But a wolf hybrid is not pure dog. I know that neutering at a young age cant stunt a dogs emotional growth a little, but i would suggest neutering a wolf hybrid at an earlyer age, just so dominance will not be more of a problem.
 
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I do not think anyone should own wolves or wolf hybrids. I have known a couple people who have many problems with their wolf hybrids. No wild animal should be made a pet. Why would anyone want to? Men have taken the time to produce a domesticated dog for nothing? It doesnt make any sence to me why any one would want a dog who is part wolf.
 

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i met a guy at a gas station... yeah i know that is a bad way to start it... but he had this MASSIVE dog in the back of his truck. any way it made a wolf... howling noise. can't remember then ame of it. anyway he came out and was like 'you guys want to pet him?' so we all agreed. it was a really nice dog. turned out to be wolf and something else... can't remember. *yeah i know i'm missing a lot of facts* lol. anyway he was telling us about owning it. his dog was nice and was really gentle with us even though he weighed like 200-300 pounds. but the guy did tell us that even though he is part dog he does have wolf in him and he had been bitten once while owning it. he gave us the best advice i've heard about owning a wolf dog. 'you can do what you think will help. but in the end all that will matter is how much 'wolf' is still in them. if it's too much there's nothing you can do about it and you have to remember for the rest of it's life that it's not a dog but a wild animal you have to take care of. if it's personality is mainly dog you'll have a great companion but you still have to remember it's over 50% wild animal'
 

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I met a hybrid at the vet clinic a month or so back. She was HUGE and I have to admit she was very calm. BUT the owner was very straight forward with a guy who was asking her about the dog. She had rescued her girl and reccomended that nobody should ever get one. This dog was 13 yrs old and she said that every day of the 12 years she's owned her has been a struggle to remember that she is not just another dog. Poor old girl is struggling with cancer now, they're debating on amputating one of her front legs. She stressed the fact that she was more of a wild animal than a pet and even at her ripe old age has quite the prey drive and is not ever trusted off lead, around children, strangers or other pets.
 

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I've heard most dogs sold as hybrids aren't. If they are big I doubt it. A guy down the road from me breeds them and they just look like alaskan huskies,long muzzle and not really all that cute. They are not horrible,but that breeder is. I'm finding his dogs all the time. For gods sake he is letting a wolf run around basically!
 
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i have had a wolf hybrid and he was 85 percent northwestern gray wolf the 15 malamute.... he wasnt aggressive nor was he shy. he loved all the all people dogs and other animals unless you came to the house uninvited. i really like wolf hybrids we are looking at getting another one. oneday... well if you have questions i sure hope i can help...

but dont worry about agression. lol they are fine... i absolutely would choose a wolf hybrid over a doberman anyday and dobermans are great... and my wolf was named nakita he was gorgeous one of the smartest dogs i have ever owned. and dont let anyone tell you they arent good protectors... they are... and dont let anyone tell you they are agressive, however some wolves like regular dogs are agressive you can control that like you do with any dog...

but NEVER raise your hand to a wolf hybrid :D... mymom learned the hard way :D lol and it wasnt towards the dog it was me that she was gonna get and he grabbed her arm and growled never broke the skin but let her know not to do it again.....
 

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