Anyone have a Wolf Hybrid? (no hating please)

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well first off that is so not true... wolf hybrids are like all dogs they need dominancy training lol it doesnt matter if they are nuetered or not. lol if i cut my husbands nuts off he would still be a master gunnery sgt of the marines and still would be a jerk lol so do you honestly think wolf hybrids are dominant... have you owned one have you been around one for extended periods of times... seriously doubt it... but it doesnt matter unless you have owned one then you really wouldnt know :D


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But a wolf hybrid is not pure dog. I know that neutering at a young age cant stunt a dogs emotional growth a little, but i would suggest neutering a wolf hybrid at an earlyer age, just so dominance will not be more of a problem.
 

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i have had a wolf hybrid and he was 85 percent northwestern gray wolf the 15 malamute.... he wasnt aggressive nor was he shy. he loved all the all people dogs and other animals unless you came to the house uninvited. i really like wolf hybrids we are looking at getting another one. oneday... well if you have questions i sure hope i can help...

but dont worry about agression. lol they are fine... i absolutely would choose a wolf hybrid over a doberman anyday and dobermans are great... and my wolf was named nakita he was gorgeous one of the smartest dogs i have ever owned. and dont let anyone tell you they arent good protectors... they are... and dont let anyone tell you they are agressive, however some wolves like regular dogs are agressive you can control that like you do with any dog...

but NEVER raise your hand to a wolf hybrid ... mymom learned the hard way lol and it wasnt towards the dog it was me that she was gonna get and he grabbed her arm and growled never broke the skin but let her know not to do it again.....well first off that is so not true... wolf hybrids are like all dogs they need dominancy training lol it doesnt matter if they are nuetered or not. lol if i cut my husbands nuts off he would still be a master gunnery sgt of the marines and still would be a jerk lol so do you honestly think wolf hybrids are dominant... have you owned one have you been around one for extended periods of times... seriously doubt it... but it doesnt matter unless you have owned one then you really wouldnt know :D
Honestly, I hope no one is ever seriously physically hurt by your "advice" someday.
 

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To Ruckus, hey I don't mean to imply any disrespect to you at all. You have a beautiful animal. I wish you the absolute best in your life with your new pet.

I disagree with the breeding of such animals as there are serious consenquences sometimes with them, but just keep doing your homework, check out as much as you can on line from other people. Keep an open mind on handling your pet just for your safety and the safety of ruckus, by looking at him as an animal with VERY strong instincts and treating him as such, and not just another dog.

Best wishes! And keep posting pictures as the guy matures!
 

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Here is a link to what I think is a pretty informative site concerning hybrids and wolves in general...

http://www.inetdesign.com/candykitchen/

There is training and behavior advice for those who already own these dogs as well as information to consider before purchasing/rescuing one...
wow I thought that was a really good website! Very informative for sure!

I'm afraid I can't give any advice as i've never have any experience with them. Goodluck with it tho!
 
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i have had a wolf hybrid and he was 85 percent northwestern gray wolf the 15 malamute.... he wasnt aggressive nor was he shy. he loved all the all people dogs and other animals unless you came to the house uninvited. i really like wolf hybrids we are looking at getting another one. oneday... well if you have questions i sure hope i can help...

but dont worry about agression. lol they are fine... i absolutely would choose a wolf hybrid over a doberman anyday and dobermans are great... and my wolf was named nakita he was gorgeous one of the smartest dogs i have ever owned. and dont let anyone tell you they arent good protectors... they are... and dont let anyone tell you they are agressive, however some wolves like regular dogs are agressive you can control that like you do with any dog...

but NEVER raise your hand to a wolf hybrid :D... mymom learned the hard way :D lol and it wasnt towards the dog it was me that she was gonna get and he grabbed her arm and growled never broke the skin but let her know not to do it again.....

the fact that you have owned a hybrid does NOT make you an expert.

as with any mixed dog you never know how the dog will turn out, what it will look like or whos mentality it will inherat ( spelling ? )

example : My dog rocco is all dobermann ( mentaly ) his brother ( from the same litter) is a completly different dog they look nothing alike and dont have the same temperament.
My youngest Quira is all pit ( mentaly ) *very friendly and loves kisses and hugs*
her brother looks more like a GS but has pretty much the same mentality.

you never know and thats why you should be very careful when giving advice, esp. in this case where the animal is not a dog.

it´s a bit like when ppl keep chimps as pets and are shocked when they grow up. .
 

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My father owns a few but they are working sled dogs. Their willful but loyal but in my opinion not really a housepet. Though Renee has one named Bimmer and he is a good dog. I have never owned one personally not saying that I won't ever.

Cute Pup though :)
 

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I've heard most dogs sold as hybrids aren't. If they are big I doubt it. A guy down the road from me breeds them and they just look like alaskan huskies,long muzzle and not really all that cute. They are not horrible,but that breeder is. I'm finding his dogs all the time. For gods sake he is letting a wolf run around basically!
I agree
In my personal professional opinion Ruckus looks all Husky.
 
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I agree
In my personal professional opinion Ruckus looks all Husky.
I was actually thinking the exact same thing! LOL Didn't wanna say anything though cause I'm horrible at identifying breeds in puppies. If it were an adul, different story, but puppies looks so similar to me LOL
 

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I had a wolf hybrid for several years, rescued him. first off, he does look pure husky but thats a funny thing about wolf hybrids (actually that brings up a different one, hybrid is an incorrect term. canis lupis is the wolf, canis lupis familiaris is domestic dog. same species. therefore not hybrid).
anyway...a 75% wolf dog can have any % wolf traits and dog traits. a wolf dog who is 10th generation where in every breeding (parents, grandparents etc) had one pure wolf and one half wolf 1/2 dog would be mostly wolf. however it could have zero wolf traits. also same dog could have zero physical wolf traits and look like a pure dog (say lab since some people think my gsd is a wolf) and have 100% wolf mental traits. or the other way around.
the wolf dog I adopted was 1/2 wolf and 1/2 gsd (supposedly). he looked like a pure wolf and even fooled students, volounteers and the director of the wolf sanctuary in Tyson Missouri. but mentally he had almost no wolf mental/personality traits.
my wolf dog was estimated to be between 4-6 years old when I adopted him and he died about 4 years later. he never once growled at anyone or any dog. he was easy to train with ONLY positive rewards. the only punishment I could give him was to put him in his crate and that was rarely nessacary as a stern look or tone of voice would make him look guilty and grovel.
the best advice I can give you is to never trust him off leash unless inside a secure fence, never trust him around small animals (including dogs smaller than he is...if he weighs 85 pounds then dont trust him with any dog under 60 pounds) as the dog may think it is tougher than he is and missunderstand his actions and cause a fight, if the dog is much smaller than him (or if it is a cat, rabbit, chicken, ferret, hamster etc) it could VERY EASILY trigger his prey drive. and ABSOLUTELY be certain to check your state and city/county laws to be sure wolf dogs are legal.
as for his neutering, most vets recommend 6 months but if you wait until he is 6 months you may have problems later. as a wolf dog (if he has ANY wolf traits) he will start maturing earlier than a domestic dog. I would recommend 5 months old.
also, black wolves are not a seperate sub-species, they are just a different color. all of the wolf types you listed (except 1) behind 75% ARE timber/grey wolf. timber wolf/grey wolf is just the common name for all north american species except one (same as the except 1 mentioned above) and that is the red wolf which is now believed to have been born/evolved from crosses between wolf and coyote. no matter what any breeder tells you they do not have wolf dogs with red wolf genes in them unless by some miracle they can trace their breeding prgram back atleast 30 years +/-. the red wolf has been an endangered species for a very long time and no civilian (or anyone who would breed for profit, sorry no matter how much you like wolf hybrids that is the only purpose) has been allowed to own one (or any dog or cross with red wolf in it) for a very very long time. not trying to insult you or hurt your feelings or make you look dumb, just trying to inform you. also the canadian buffalo wolf does not exist. their is a sub species of wolf found in canada that has been incorrectly named by wolf dog breeders the buffalo wolf, however this subspecies has been de-classified as it is no different than about 30% of wolves in north america. and as a matter of fact there are now only 5 sub-species of wolf recognized in north america rather than the 20 something that were recognized up until about 6 years ago. that sub-species of wolf was called the buffalo wolf by breeders who claimed that because it fed on the enormous buffalo (bison) it was a lot larger than any other wolf. other breeders claimed they had the rare siberian blonde/golden/rust/tawny wolf which never existed, they would claim that fish and wildlife agents would tell you that because they had never heard of one because they went extinct in the wild in the 30's. in reality they were breeding yellow labs crossed with gsd's, malamutes or huskies. others claimed they had the mackenzie valley wolf in their mix and that it was far more docile and trainable than any other. the mackenzie valley wolf was no different than any other wolf sub-species except it lived in the mackenzie valley region. 99% of wolf dog breeders lie.
hopefully your breeder (if you got him from a breeder) was one of the extremely few good breeders. what were the living areas of the animals he/she had like? (all of them including puppies, parents, other breeders, retired breeders etc). if you dont mind my asking, how much did you pay and did the breeder offer any type of health and temperament garauntee? and how many animals did the seller have?
I am not asking these questions to point a finger or to try to convince you that you made a mistake. I am merely asking because if you DID have a good breeder then others reading this who may decide (or have already decided) that they want to get a wolf dog will know of atleast one good breeder.
lastly, anyone who is considering getting a wolf dog, get one through a rescue such as this one... http://www.liquinet.com/wolfdogadoption/ which I am not affiliated with in any way at all. they are not trying to make money, the adoption fees go to feeding and caring for other animals. actually it costs them roughly $35,000 a year to care for the animals and from adoption fees they make about $18,000 a year, not enough to cover even half of their costs. I know because I have asked them what their adoption fees are. I currently live in a state where wolf dogs are not legal, but if I ever move away I might want to adopt another.
anyway, a rescue (since they are non-profit) will try very hard to place each animal with a person/family/home that it will fit in without ever having to be given up again.
oh by the way...he is adorable. I hope you will post more pictures frequently.
 
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Wow panzer, thanks for such an informative post! I've got to say that I've never really read up on wolf-dogs and am learning so much through these threads...
Thanks :)
 

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again, I know there are a few people here who are against wolf hybrids, so if your one of them, please dont reply in my thread.

I really dont care if you think owning wolf/hybrids are wrong. We all have our own opinions. There is an entire thread in "The Breeding Ground" section where you can argue till your hearts content. All I wanted was helpful advice from people who had experience with wolf hybrids (thanks to all the people that did post advice!). So if you want to post your anti-wolf "opinions", go do it somewhere else please.

thanks to all those people who posted helpful advice, and that website has a ton of great info!! Ruckus does look like a purebred Husky! Even if he is or isnt, Ill still be extra cautious with him and train him correctly. I love him too much already!
 

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I wasnt suggesting that you re-home him, or trying to convince you of the reasons why wolf dogs are not good pets. I was merely trying to inform you as well as anyone who read this post and might be thinking about getting one, as well as anyone reading who has little or no knowledge about them. answering the questions I asked you might really help anyone who is considering one as a pet. if you went through a good breeder then they could go through the same breeder or contact that breeder to find one closer to them. there are thousands of reasons why wolf dogs may be bad pets but who cares. like any other pet...do your research and learn as much as possible from truly knowledgable people and you can get a good pet. I was merely trying to inform/help you and others.
 

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I just want to add that you cant simply just say "dont respond to my thread", thats not how it works. Its a public forum and everyone is entitled to an opinion.
 

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so much good info Panzer426! my previous post wasnt directed at you! you of all people gave me the most (useful) info! :)

I got Ruckus from a breeder in Santa Cruz (CA). Her dog (the mother) looked like a Grey/White Husky/Wolf. She looked more Wolf (facial structure). I saw pictures of the dad and he looked exactly like a wolf, but mostly black. She kept the mother In a large fenced yard and indoors. She originally had 9 puppies for sale, all but 3 have been sold. The puppies were kept in doors near the mother. She had a 6 month money back guarantee. All the puppies shots were up to date and she gave alot of advice about how to take care of them. I paid $350 for Ruckus. I found her add on Craigslist (doesnt seem too professional does it?)

Im kind of wondering myself if Ruckus actually is part wolf or not. He looks like a Husky, but then again wolf puppies look alot alike. Im happy either way. If he is part wolf, ill just have to train him extra hard and be more cautious. If he isnt part wolf, I have the most beautiful non wolf puppy :D ! is there a way to find out if he is part wolf ?
 

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Ruckus said:
so much good info Panzer426!

I got Ruckus from a breeder in Santa Cruz (CA). Her dog (the mother) looked like a Grey/White Husky/Wolf. She looked more Wolf (facial structure). I saw pictures of the dad and he looked exactly like a wolf, but mostly black. She kept the mother In a large fenced yard and indoors. She originally had 9 puppies for sale, all but 3 have been sold. The puppies were kept in doors near the mother. She had a 6 month money back guarantee. All the puppies shots were up to date and she gave alot of advice about how to take care of them. I paid $350 for Ruckus. I found her add on Craigslist (doesnt seem too professional does it?)

Im kind of wondering myself if Ruckus actually is part wolf or not. He looks like a Husky, but then again wolf puppies look alot alike. Im happy either way. If he is part wolf, ill just have to train him extra hard and be more cautious. If he isnt part wolf, I have the most beautiful non wolf puppy :D ! is there a way to find out if he is part wolf ?

I think a DNA test can verify what he is. Not too sure though, I remember reading something about it on the forum a while back.
 

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I just want to add that you cant simply just say "dont respond to my thread", thats not how it works. Its a public forum and everyone is entitled to an opinion.
I can ASK you (anti-wolf people) not to respond to my thread, and I would assume that you would RESPECT my wishes. but alas, their will always be people who will play the "free speech" card....

of course everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I just dont feel like arguing back and forth, thats not what im after. I just dont want to clog up this thread with anti-wolf opinions. makes it hard to fish out useful posts for people who are interested.
 

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I can ASK you (anti-wolf people) not to respond to my thread, and I would assume that you would RESPECT my wishes. but alas, their will always be people who will play the "free speech" card....

Im just dont want to clog up this thread with anti-wolf opinions. makes it hard to fish out useful posts.
Dude, I'm not anti-wolf. I used to have a X myself. I'm anti-purposely cross breeding anything, and that includes wolves.
 

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