And nothing of value was lost.
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Well good! That's one less woman that SOB will terrorize. I hope when they catch the guy, he isn't charged with murder, although he probably will be, knowing our screwed up justice system. It's suppose to be that we have the right to defend not only ourselves, but others as well against probable death at the hands of someone else. He shouldn't have run, but told it like it was to the cops.
While I am glad that someone stepped up and helped that poor woman- I don't think it killing someone is the answer... and yes, I absolutely think he should be prosecuted.
He could have just as easily called 911 and made a scene to get other people to help him if he didn't feel he could handle that guy one on one, going up to someone and shooting them in the head is certainly not the answer.
He could have just as easily called 911 and made a scene to get other people to help him if he didn't feel he could handle that guy one on one, going up to someone and shooting them in the head is certainly not the answer.
Yep, that's how it's supposed to be and how most laws are worded.........being able to stand on it though is going to be quite another matter.
What I hope is they DON'T find this good Samaritan. Period. That way he isn't in a battle over his freedom.
As to the man who was shot? Good riddance to bad rubbish. I have 3 sons and two daughters...........so even as a mother I can make that statement. I'm sure his mother (and quite possibly his baby's momma) are crying and will miss him, but somewhere inside of them, maybe deep down (maybe not so deep down) is RELIEF. Relief they don't have to deal with him, worry what he might do next........just relief.
What I hope is they DON'T find this good Samaritan. Period. That way he isn't in a battle over his freedom.
As to the man who was shot? Good riddance to bad rubbish. I have 3 sons and two daughters...........so even as a mother I can make that statement. I'm sure his mother (and quite possibly his baby's momma) are crying and will miss him, but somewhere inside of them, maybe deep down (maybe not so deep down) is RELIEF. Relief they don't have to deal with him, worry what he might do next........just relief.
Well, assuming he could have stopped him by holding him at gunpoint and not by shooting him, he shouldn't have kiled him. But if, say, he thought the guy was going to attack him when he intervened, he had the right to shoot him. It just depends.
As for the deceased, I'd say he had it coming, one way or another.
As for the deceased, I'd say he had it coming, one way or another.
I think most of us here think in "dog" terms first, or at least often. So, in keeping with Chaz fashion, I will use an analogy I've seen many here express concerning vicious dogs 
If a dog has proven himself to be vicious, he needs to be put down. There are far too many other dogs waiting for a home, waiting for a chance, waiting for training than to waste precious resources on one who's proven to be a threat, one who stands a good chance to repeat the action, and/or one who will most likely escalate to a more severe attack the next time.
But......but this is a HUMAN not a dog! Mmmmmmk, I agree. And as a human it appears he had ample opportunity the LAST 10 times he was CHARGED (God knows what the actual offense count is, just 10 he was charged with)
We aren't talking about a human accused.........we are talking about a human caught in the act, interrupted, ignored the suggestion to stop, then resumed what he was about. Speaking of a human who has repeated this offense in the past not only on his girl friend, but apparently his own mother.
Again I say........Buh bye. I as a tax payer don't need to pay for your trial, pay to feed you in prison, and don't need to pay your woman and child's doctor bills any longer from your beatings.
If a dog has proven himself to be vicious, he needs to be put down. There are far too many other dogs waiting for a home, waiting for a chance, waiting for training than to waste precious resources on one who's proven to be a threat, one who stands a good chance to repeat the action, and/or one who will most likely escalate to a more severe attack the next time.
But......but this is a HUMAN not a dog! Mmmmmmk, I agree. And as a human it appears he had ample opportunity the LAST 10 times he was CHARGED (God knows what the actual offense count is, just 10 he was charged with)
We aren't talking about a human accused.........we are talking about a human caught in the act, interrupted, ignored the suggestion to stop, then resumed what he was about. Speaking of a human who has repeated this offense in the past not only on his girl friend, but apparently his own mother.
Again I say........Buh bye. I as a tax payer don't need to pay for your trial, pay to feed you in prison, and don't need to pay your woman and child's doctor bills any longer from your beatings.
Agreed. It seems to work when it's not senseless violence like his, but a short, swift sort of violence that ends the problem. I bet that saved the woman and her child from a lot of misery and beatings in the future.
:hail::hail:
I think most of us here think in "dog" terms first, or at least often. So, in keeping with Chaz fashion, I will use an analogy I've seen many here express concerning vicious dogs
If a dog has proven himself to be vicious, he needs to be put down. There are far too many other dogs waiting for a home, waiting for a chance, waiting for training than to waste precious resources on one who's proven to be a threat, one who stands a good chance to repeat the action, and/or one who will most likely escalate to a more severe attack the next time.
But......but this is a HUMAN not a dog! Mmmmmmk, I agree. And as a human it appears he had ample opportunity the LAST 10 times he was CHARGED (God knows what the actual offense count is, just 10 he was charged with)
We aren't talking about a human accused.........we are talking about a human caught in the act, interrupted, ignored the suggestion to stop, then resumed what he was about. Speaking of a human who has repeated this offense in the past not only on his girl friend, but apparently his own mother.
Again I say........Buh bye. I as a tax payer don't need to pay for your trial, pay to feed you in prison, and don't need to pay your woman and child's doctor bills any longer from your beatings.
If a dog has proven himself to be vicious, he needs to be put down. There are far too many other dogs waiting for a home, waiting for a chance, waiting for training than to waste precious resources on one who's proven to be a threat, one who stands a good chance to repeat the action, and/or one who will most likely escalate to a more severe attack the next time.
But......but this is a HUMAN not a dog! Mmmmmmk, I agree. And as a human it appears he had ample opportunity the LAST 10 times he was CHARGED (God knows what the actual offense count is, just 10 he was charged with)
We aren't talking about a human accused.........we are talking about a human caught in the act, interrupted, ignored the suggestion to stop, then resumed what he was about. Speaking of a human who has repeated this offense in the past not only on his girl friend, but apparently his own mother.
Again I say........Buh bye. I as a tax payer don't need to pay for your trial, pay to feed you in prison, and don't need to pay your woman and child's doctor bills any longer from your beatings.
I think most of us here think in "dog" terms first, or at least often. So, in keeping with Chaz fashion, I will use an analogy I've seen many here express concerning vicious dogs
If a dog has proven himself to be vicious, he needs to be put down. There are far too many other dogs waiting for a home, waiting for a chance, waiting for training than to waste precious resources on one who's proven to be a threat, one who stands a good chance to repeat the action, and/or one who will most likely escalate to a more severe attack the next time.
But......but this is a HUMAN not a dog! Mmmmmmk, I agree. And as a human it appears he had ample opportunity the LAST 10 times he was CHARGED (God knows what the actual offense count is, just 10 he was charged with)
We aren't talking about a human accused.........we are talking about a human caught in the act, interrupted, ignored the suggestion to stop, then resumed what he was about. Speaking of a human who has repeated this offense in the past not only on his girl friend, but apparently his own mother.
Again I say........Buh bye. I as a tax payer don't need to pay for your trial, pay to feed you in prison, and don't need to pay your woman and child's doctor bills any longer from your beatings.
If a dog has proven himself to be vicious, he needs to be put down. There are far too many other dogs waiting for a home, waiting for a chance, waiting for training than to waste precious resources on one who's proven to be a threat, one who stands a good chance to repeat the action, and/or one who will most likely escalate to a more severe attack the next time.
But......but this is a HUMAN not a dog! Mmmmmmk, I agree. And as a human it appears he had ample opportunity the LAST 10 times he was CHARGED (God knows what the actual offense count is, just 10 he was charged with)
We aren't talking about a human accused.........we are talking about a human caught in the act, interrupted, ignored the suggestion to stop, then resumed what he was about. Speaking of a human who has repeated this offense in the past not only on his girl friend, but apparently his own mother.
Again I say........Buh bye. I as a tax payer don't need to pay for your trial, pay to feed you in prison, and don't need to pay your woman and child's doctor bills any longer from your beatings.
a mighty short temper? because he walked up on a guy beating his wife and told him to stop and then the guy apparently aggressively got in his face. We don't know what "forcefully told to him to mind his own business" means. What was the force he used... did he push or hit the guy... then keeps beating the woman.
That's a short temper? sometimes violence is the only answer. was the man to just stand by and watch this man beat his g/f possibly to death? and then if he did and she died and they mentioned that guy saw it but didn't stop him we would all freak that he didn't come to her aid. Call the cops? and let him keep beating her for the next 10 minutes it takes them to get there? so they can pronounce her dead possibly.
judging by the comment of one of the other tenants that said there are shootings there all the time I am willing to bet there aren't many people in that building willing to put themselves in a possibly dangerous situation to help out this guy. that's an assumption but it happens all the time. people don't or won't help.
I do hope the guy warned him that he was armed first and the guy still went about his business of abusing people and then was shot.
but the idea that violence is not the answer to violence is not always correct. Ask many kids in school who was bullied and finally stood up to his bully and punched his lights out... most of the time that bully doesn't bully that kid anymore because he's not a weak target.
sometimes violence is the answer lol you need to be able to save yourself because more often than not you can't count on others to save you.
That's a short temper? sometimes violence is the only answer. was the man to just stand by and watch this man beat his g/f possibly to death? and then if he did and she died and they mentioned that guy saw it but didn't stop him we would all freak that he didn't come to her aid. Call the cops? and let him keep beating her for the next 10 minutes it takes them to get there? so they can pronounce her dead possibly.
judging by the comment of one of the other tenants that said there are shootings there all the time I am willing to bet there aren't many people in that building willing to put themselves in a possibly dangerous situation to help out this guy. that's an assumption but it happens all the time. people don't or won't help.
I do hope the guy warned him that he was armed first and the guy still went about his business of abusing people and then was shot.
but the idea that violence is not the answer to violence is not always correct. Ask many kids in school who was bullied and finally stood up to his bully and punched his lights out... most of the time that bully doesn't bully that kid anymore because he's not a weak target.
sometimes violence is the answer lol you need to be able to save yourself because more often than not you can't count on others to save you.
I think most of us here think in "dog" terms first, or at least often. So, in keeping with Chaz fashion, I will use an analogy I've seen many here express concerning vicious dogs
If a dog has proven himself to be vicious, he needs to be put down. There are far too many other dogs waiting for a home, waiting for a chance, waiting for training than to waste precious resources on one who's proven to be a threat, one who stands a good chance to repeat the action, and/or one who will most likely escalate to a more severe attack the next time.
But......but this is a HUMAN not a dog! Mmmmmmk, I agree. And as a human it appears he had ample opportunity the LAST 10 times he was CHARGED (God knows what the actual offense count is, just 10 he was charged with)
We aren't talking about a human accused.........we are talking about a human caught in the act, interrupted, ignored the suggestion to stop, then resumed what he was about. Speaking of a human who has repeated this offense in the past not only on his girl friend, but apparently his own mother.
Again I say........Buh bye. I as a tax payer don't need to pay for your trial, pay to feed you in prison, and don't need to pay your woman and child's doctor bills any longer from your beatings.
If a dog has proven himself to be vicious, he needs to be put down. There are far too many other dogs waiting for a home, waiting for a chance, waiting for training than to waste precious resources on one who's proven to be a threat, one who stands a good chance to repeat the action, and/or one who will most likely escalate to a more severe attack the next time.
But......but this is a HUMAN not a dog! Mmmmmmk, I agree. And as a human it appears he had ample opportunity the LAST 10 times he was CHARGED (God knows what the actual offense count is, just 10 he was charged with)
We aren't talking about a human accused.........we are talking about a human caught in the act, interrupted, ignored the suggestion to stop, then resumed what he was about. Speaking of a human who has repeated this offense in the past not only on his girl friend, but apparently his own mother.
Again I say........Buh bye. I as a tax payer don't need to pay for your trial, pay to feed you in prison, and don't need to pay your woman and child's doctor bills any longer from your beatings.
The world won't miss this scumbag. Sounds like his family won't miss him either. As Necho titled this thread, nothing of value was lost.
There are some people that I truly believe are worthless leeches, sucking the happiness and well-being from others and giving nothing but misery in return.
My concern is did the shooter know this guy was 'bad'. I mean beating someone is bad, but what if he had a mental condition. What if this was his first offence? What if he had a bad reaction to medication, or someone slipped him something?
Sure in retrospect the scumbag had it coming. But unless the shooter knew them personally he wouldn't know that? Perhaps the shooting was unrelated to the beating.
Its like I would be fine with the dealth penalty if I didn't know of many cases where people have been convicted of murder only to turn up innocent years later. So while I am fine with Paul Bernardo being removed via lethal injection, even one innocent death makes the system every bit as bad as those they are trying to remove.
Sure in retrospect the scumbag had it coming. But unless the shooter knew them personally he wouldn't know that? Perhaps the shooting was unrelated to the beating.
Its like I would be fine with the dealth penalty if I didn't know of many cases where people have been convicted of murder only to turn up innocent years later. So while I am fine with Paul Bernardo being removed via lethal injection, even one innocent death makes the system every bit as bad as those they are trying to remove.