abortion - contreversial

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Denaluvscorgis said:
Actually Saje, in a way I do. I at least wish that it would have been harder for me to do. I just made an appt, my friend took me one morning, and it was done. Some states require you to go through a day of education, and then you have to come back on another date to have the procedure. I wish they at least would have done this.
Yeah, it's definitely something people need to be educated on and think about.
 

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This is an old thread but I wanted to put in my two cents ;) The only way I am for ABORTION is if a woman is RAPED against her will and is carrying her rapists baby. I then believe in abortion for that only purpose. Females using it as a form of birth control is not acceptable and is wrong. If you can't suffer the consequences of laying down and not using the proper "protection" then abstinence is the best policy :D
 

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In my Policing Ethics class I had to present a debate on Abortion. We were the Con abortion.. I think I worded my debate fairly well on this one. We got the highest score in the class for it.

Anyways, I think personally - You have to think about the position the person is in. Are they financially ready to "have" a baby? Do they use drugs consistantly? What is their medical history? What is the fetus's medical state?

If any of the answers to the questions above are in a negative sense, then i think an abortion should happen.

But I do agree - if a woman is raped, becomes pregnant. Why would she "have" to keep the baby or give it up for adoption. I think that would be horrible. I dont know if I could love my own baby if I had to have one in that situation.
 

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I'm pro choice. Ultimately, regardless of whether they were raped or not.

The facts are this. There are plenty of young teens out there who make stupid decisions. There are plenty of parent/teen relationships that do not discuss birth control, like the pill or needle.

So in an emergency situation, I feel that it is their choice to make.

Now, using abortion as birth control is wrong.
 

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Although, it's a woman's body- it's not like she's the only one that made it happen. It should be both the husband and the wife's choice.

What if you were potentially killed? Someone great could've been killed, what if he was the next Einstein? Although I feel that every and all life is equal. I don't care if he would've been a bum on the street- anyone and everyone deserves a shot at life. Why not give him to an orphanage? He could potentially go into a great home and if not, well, at least he's alive.
Ok random btu did you know Hitlers mother almost got an abortion
 

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In my Policing Ethics class I had to present a debate on Abortion. We were the Con abortion.. I think I worded my debate fairly well on this one. We got the highest score in the class for it.

Anyways, I think personally - You have to think about the position the person is in. Are they financially ready to "have" a baby? Do they use drugs consistantly? What is their medical history? What is the fetus's medical state?

If any of the answers to the questions above are in a negative sense, then i think an abortion should happen.

But I do agree - if a woman is raped, becomes pregnant. Why would she "have" to keep the baby or give it up for adoption. I think that would be horrible. I dont know if I could love my own baby if I had to have one in that situation.
I do agree with you Summer riot about the medical state of the fetus. If the child was down syndrome or missing parts (deformed) then that is the only other reason I would feel an abortion is acceptable. However, financially ready to have children LOL! Is anyone ever financially ready to have kids? If I waited till I was I would be past the point of being able to bare offspring LOL! I think that is a poor excuse to have an abortion and anyways thats what welfare is for if you need assistance. And if the woman who is having a child has a poor medical background then I hope she would have sense enough not to get pregnant in the first place. I also somewhat agree with you about the female being a drug addict and unfortunately those women are to strung out to even care about having an abortion thus the term "crack baby" which are born everyday (so sad). Alls they care about is getting there next fix of drugs and not fixing themselves.
 

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IMO the only acceptable reasons for abortion is rape or if the mother's life is in danger from carrying the baby....

If the child was down syndrome or missing parts (deformed) then that is the only other reason I would feel an abortion is acceptable.
That IMO is NO reason to abort, their are plenty of people that would gladly adopt and accept that child into their family....
 

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I'm not going through all the threads again .... today with the day after shots or pills in case of rape ... I'd go for it ... not abortion . I am completely anti -abortion unless it perils the mother's life and she has other children in her life. I am pro abortion if the fetus is in duress and would either die in womb or after birth. Otherwise , I would welcome whatever God gave me ..... speak to any parent of a disabled child !!! None regret their choice !!! My daughter's ultra sounds showed no problems . She chose not to take an am bios test due to the risks and they wanted this child. The results were our Nash ... with Down Syndrome .... our love and because of him there are 100s in added networks in 5 years ... Check out by googling Mauzy's Musings . Nash is now 5 ... into kindergarten and today I had him for 3 hours while his parents painted .... what a joy !!!!! His Mom's birthday is Monday and I gave him a $1.00 and we shopped the Dollar store ......he was so torn !!! Finally picked up a funky chicken ( hmmmmmmmmmmm ! ) but it's to his Mommy and she'll love it . Do not abort !!!!!!!! God choses special parents for special kids !!
 

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Lord ... I see that Red posted before me !!! What in holy hell does missing parts or DS has to do with it !!! These are things that can be dealt with !!! What you couldn't deal with , others can !!!! How about the boy with no arms and wrestles !! Or the boy with no legs who plays football !!! Every child needs a chance , and if the parent can't deal with it , someone can.!!
 

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IMO the only acceptable reasons for abortion is rape or if the mother's life is in danger from carrying the baby....



That IMO is NO reason to abort, their are plenty of people that would gladly adopt and accept that child into their family....
Unfortunately, some people don't want to deal with a child who has these issues. As far as the fetus being deformed to the point of not having a spine or is missing organs I feel that abortion then would be okay. I have a down syndrome cousin who is a wonderful kid and exudes love and happiness and he recently graduated high school. Does my aunt ever regret having him? No, but it has been very hard on her.
 

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IMO the only acceptable reasons for abortion is rape or if the mother's life is in danger from carrying the baby....



That IMO is NO reason to abort, their are plenty of people that would gladly adopt and accept that child into their family....
ANd its not your decision to make - I have close personal friends who have children with birth defects, and they chose to abort later on because their second child was also developmentally challenged, adn they were NOT able to care for that.

Really, there are NOT a ton of homes able and willing to care for DS children, there is not a huge line waiting for developmentally challenged children.

Having a child with disabilities is incredibly expensive, heart wrenching, time consuming, and leads to the break up of MANY marriages.


I am pro-choice, obviously.
 

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As far as the fetus being deformed to the point of not having a spine or is missing organs I feel that abortion then would be okay
I agree with you on ^ that point... I just meant the part that I bolded about having down's syndrome IMO was no reason to abort...:)
 

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ANd its not your decision to make - I have close personal friends who have children with birth defects, and they chose to abort later on because their second child was also developmentally challenged, adn they were NOT able to care for that.
I never said it was my decision to make did I.... no I didnt... I was just making my opinion like everyone else was.....

Of course everyone has to make their own choices...did you honestly think I didnt know that...
 
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Lord ... I see that Red posted before me !!! What in holy hell does missing parts or DS has to do with it !!! These are things that can be dealt with !!! What you couldn't deal with , others can !!!! How about the boy with no arms and wrestles !! Or the boy with no legs who plays football !!! Every child needs a chance , and if the parent can't deal with it , someone can.!!
Wow, hold on! I'm not saying that is what I would do if I had been carrying a child with birth defects is just get rid of it. But if another women chooses to then that is her decision and she has the right to make it. I had another aunt who was going to terminate a pregnancy because the fetus showed problems. No spinal column, down syndrome, and a few other issues that I can't remember. She ended up miscarrying.
 

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Of course it's been hard on her .... does she regret it ,? no !! As I said before , if a baby has an " issue " that would mean death upon birth ... I can see it . By the way ,you don't have a Down Syndrome cousin .... you have a cousin who happends to HAVE Down Syndrome ....the child comes first ... the issue second. You would never say that you had a Cancer cousin would you .???
 

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ANd its not your decision to make - I have close personal friends who have children with birth defects, and they chose to abort later on because their second child was also developmentally challenged, adn they were NOT able to care for that.

Really, there are NOT a ton of homes able and willing to care for DS children, there is not a huge line waiting for developmentally challenged children.

Having a child with disabilities is incredibly expensive, heart wrenching, time consuming, and leads to the break up of MANY marriages.


I am pro-choice, obviously.
Thanks Doberkim, glad you said it. I was going to point that out but I didn't want to get flamed!
 

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Of course it's been hard on her .... does she regret it ,? no !! As I said before , if a baby has an " issue " that would mean death upon birth ... I can see it . By the way ,you don't have a Down Syndrome cousin .... you have a cousin who happends to HAVE Down Syndrome ....the child comes first ... the issue second. You would never say that you had a Cancer cousin would you .???
Sorry Grammy :( ! No, I wouldn't. But no matter which way I say it I love him just the same :)
 

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I don't think I'm going to read all 34 pages of this thread, but...I'm pro-life. There are ways to prevent getting pregnant.

But...I think in the case of someone getting raped, that's a bit different. They had no choice. Or if the mother's life was at risk, if there was no way to prevent something bad from happening. For example, my sister is 12 wks pregnant and has factor v leiden, which puts her at a higher risk of developing blood clots. One of the things that heightens your chance of getting a blood clot is being pregnant, so with that and the fact that she's had blood clots before, she'd definitely be at risk. SO...she has to give herself an injection in the stomach everyday while pregnant to keep her blood thin, and prevent that from happening.

I just can't agree with abortion..
 
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Really, there are NOT a ton of homes able and willing to care for DS children, there is not a huge line waiting for developmentally challenged children. .
Can you please post the source for that? I was led to beleave the opposite was true. Thank you.
 

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