Spirit....

You have been all over the place here, Spirit, complaining about how you can't take your pets to the vet..because of your mother. You can't bring them inside....because of your mother. Did you not say right here on this board just last week that you dumped them a shelter, including the mother cat????? And then you picked them up an hour later again? Did your mother mind then, Spirit? Or did that even happen, Spirit? Which is it?

If only half of what you have told us on this board is true, do you really think your mother cares who is picking these animals up? Instead you are willing to bring them to the humane society instead of allowing a REAL rescue group to ensure their lives against The Needle? First you say you can't call rescue, but then you say you can. Then you say you will and then you DON'T. Then you come here and complain again. Jess and others have gone OUT OF THEIR WAY to give you valuable and useful and helpful information to help make these animals safe, yet you are too lazy to even make one freaking phone call that would alleviate the life these helpless pets have. You say you can't transport the animals, but then you say you can. It's dizzying, Spirit and animals lives are hanging in the balance of your own lack of initiative. If you ask me, you couldn't care less about these animals and it's all about you instead. What is going on here spirit????

You say your mother doesn't care about these animals but you won't know what to say to her if somebody RESPONSIBLE comes to get them? I don't get this one bit, Spirit. Frankly Spirit, what's the gig here with you anyways? All you need to say is you contacted a rescue group and they are coming to get these little pests off your hands. Because that is what they are in your house, nothing more than little pests. And soon you will have more of them to collect up, only to throw them outside and deny them vet care. The situation in your home constitutes nothing less than animal Collection and neglect, Spirit! Your grandmother isn't going to do squat, Spirit, not if half of what you have told us here is true. There are no problems with BP's plan and you know it. The problem is with you and your total lack of responsibility, even for a girl your age.

You are NOT looking very sincere here, Spirit. You don't need $80, you need to stop collecting animals you cannot afford and do not have "time" to attend to. In fact, a fair number of us on this board have been biting our tongues while you have continued to neglect your responsibility to these living things. Worse yet, you have collected yourself yourself yet another dog who will not get his shots or vet care if he is sick. There are plenty of young people on this board your age spirit, who would have taken care of this problem responsibly long ago, one way or another, because they wouldn't want to contribute to animal overpopulation. You say you want to stop being a terrible cat owner? Then take BP's offer so that these animals can get some vet care that they badly need and so they will have a decent shot at a real life!

I am fed up folks. I am sorry if I offended anyone. We have coddled this kid and sat back and watched her do nothing but allow a plethora of living things be neglected. We have felt badly for her because she has no control.But when someone with a heart gives her the opportunity to give these animals what she SAYS she wants them to have, she refuses. The only thing she does regularly is complain and apologize. But does she do anything constructive? No! I no longer feel sorry for Spirit, I feel sorry for the poor animals who are captive in her Uncare! I wash my hands of this obviously neglectful situation! Spirit! Stop toying with fragile life! It is downright cruel! Where I am, considering the lack of care, ALL of your animals would have been confiscated!It is not a kind thing to do! And if you are REALLY sorry, you will take BP's offer. And frankly, if you don't I completely wash my hands or your whining.

I no longer feel sorry for you Spirit. I feel sorry for the animals in your charge. I am so angry over what you are doing with these innocent animals I could just spit! Enough to risk being chastised by mods for this post! Shame on you! You are not the victim here! You are part of the problem and you are proving it on this thread. Grow up! Or at least act your own age!

Ok, take me seriously here, then, I'm not allowed to talk to anyone on the internet, once so ever, and she doesn't know that I have been talking to you guys. I'll get in trouble if she finds out. Thats the problem, and I'm not trying to shut you guys out.. Really, and truelly. I've tried everything, to even doing more things for her, and she won't. And everytime I try to talk to her about the cats, she says, "I have more to worry about than cats" Thats exactly what she says, and she shuts me out, for Bruce. I'm the one who always gets shut out, by my mother. And whenever my brother talks to her, about his dumb game, she listens, and replies. I get shut out, once again. Whenever I talk about something thats important, I get shut out by her. So, basically, I have tried my hardest, but thats the reply I get every single time, and she doesn't want them at the Animal Shelter, neither do I though. And I don't have her permission to take them anywhere. If you don't believe me, I think I will still understand.. And I respect your offer, and I really do want to accept it. But, I'm afraid of my mom, and what she will tell me, and yell at me, or whatever for talking to people on the internet, but I do it anyways, to get help from you guys. And no one ever believes me, is the other problem.

Then I'll put you in contact with the rescue and you can deal directly with them...

Oh cut the crap. All you have to say is you made a call. Just cut the crap Spirit. Just cut the crap!

TM, I really wish you knew what I was really going through, I wish I did, I'm not telling you crap, I really am not. I promise. And I did make a call, to the Countryside animal rescue, not listed, they aren't taking in animals. they have a web. And I'll give it to you. I'm fed up with myself to, I really am. And here is that website.

http://www.countrysideanimalrescue.org/index.htm

And I don't deserve any animal, do I? I don't deserve to live for what I'm doing to these poor cats. And I do see what I'm doing to the poor cats. I do. And it will haunt me for the rest of my life. Until I do something about it. But its more complicated than you guys make it. Not everything is easy. I'm really telling the truth. I know I'm just a stupid kid now to you.. And I wish I wasn't.. I did make some calls. I did. And you still probably don't believe me. And see, this is what I mean, by people don't believe me, at all.

Spirit, when I get home from work I will respond to your PM. Are you willing to be put in contact with a rescue and you can deal with them directly?

Ya, I'll try, not very good with words, but I'll try. And I will.

Take the deal Spirit and cut it out! Pretend you made that call and let somebody RESPONSIBLE take on the responsibilities you have ignored. There is nothing logical about what you are planning now. You have a good bird in hand. Pretend you called country side or whomever and TAKE BPs DEAL! I have taught many girls your age spirit and I know what is going on here so TAKE THE DEAL! It is time you showed us and YOURSELF that you can do the responsible thing. I accept no more bullcrap. You have a great deal and there is no reason on earth you can't take it and you know it. There are no more excuses.

I am done with you now. I leave you to God.

Late last night you said you didn't have "time". BP, if you divert her to a rescue, I trust you will flollow up that it actually happens. Silly me, of course you will...

Okay, Spirit.

Here is the lowdown.

IF you do NOT find an adult to help you break this cycle of abuse and craziness you are - probably 98% - certain to repeat it in your own life.

You are still a child. This is not your battle, but you've been thrust into it and your only responsibility in this is to get yourself out of it. You make someone listen to you about the abuse and the neglect and you follow through. That's a tall order, but it's not beyond your capacity.

I'm not planning anything.. I'm not that kind of person, and I don't like bullcrap. And, I did call them, I really did. What do I need to do, to show you that I did? And, I don't want to repeat abuse... I don't. Its a nasty cycle. Oh, I hate when people hate me... I wish TM, wouldn't... But..... I do have one more thing, I could have not joined the forum, and then we would be nowhere. Except Hershey being outdoors still, and then Whisper, being outdoors too.... And, I would have learned nothing.

Spirit,
You do not need to prove anything to anybody on the "internet".
The only thing that matters is you do what is right for you.

I will give you a piece of advice, when you make your life public... you will have people get involved.... if you don't want that, then keep things to yourself.

If you need help in your life, it is best to find an adult in the real world to help you with your problems.

Well said Julie...

I think Spirit needs more help than any of us is able to give her... Poor girl.

And if she really was a bad person she wouldn't care one little bit about those cats and kittens.

Spirit, TM doesn't hate you. None of us hate you.

However, I think I say a lot for everyone here when I say this has gone on long enough. They have tried to help you, and you shot it down.

I have known all along something was up. It's almost like you just come here to **** and moan all the time, but when someone offers actual help for you, you always turn it down.

You say that your mother is gone all the time... What is stopping you from calling a rescue and saying "I'll call you when my mother is gone so I won't get into trouble"? What is it going to take? At this rate, these cats are going to end up dying outside from the heat or hit by cars, or God knows what else. If your mother has more important things to worry about, why NOT call a rescue. Why not just tell your mother you have no idea what happened to them?

It's not that hard if you try.

I'm not trying to bash you, ask anyone here. I don't bash. I do get a little ticked when people don't put any kind of effort towards their animals well beings.

So get your act together, Girly.

Very true, and I did want someone to help, and maybe TM, did some good to my empty head. She only said what she wanted to get it off her mind, and well, to knock some sense into me, and gave me the hard cold facts. But I do deny some of it. And I do want people involved. But, I don't really have an adult in my life, that helps me, except my grandma, I know my grandpa would have had a solution. He always had a solution. But, I do thank TM, too, and BP. I know it was cold, but, the straight facts, that I'm neglecting them, and they need to go somewhere else. To get the proper care, love, and I agree. Thats what I did come here for, to get advice, and thats what I'm getting. I appreciate it too. I type slow, but, I'm sorry.. That is what I do.. And I need to stop, and do something.. I'm sorry. I am going to do something about it, I need to, and am going to. ug, and you guys care about animals, just like me, but, you guys are knocking some sense into me too. And, its going to work out, just a little guidance down the road, and I think I'll be fine. Sure I'll be upset, but, it will be for a good reason, and they need to get care, and I don't want something to happen to them, you guys are def. right.

Just take BP up on her deal and then it's all over and done with and you don't have to worry or beat yourself up anymore.

Very true. I asked my grandma, and she said, ok, and I told her that I would tell her, and I e-mailed my mom. Didn't tell her about you guys. But I asked her to make sure. Cause I care about these guys, and they need good lives.

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Please take BP's offer. You want the best for these cats, and I honestly think at the way things are going, her help is the only way these cats aren't all going to be dead in two years.

ug, Is it ok, if I feel like a total jerk? Oh.. How do I tell you guys... How, how how... Don't be mad, after being a complete jerk myself... I've thought it over, I'll accept her offer.

I just found this ..... Spirit you sure have had a lot of help here . Please go for it ! A friend called me 2 days ago ....her daughter wanted to have her dog neutered , but her vet wanted $325. I gave her FACE's number and she went there for $40 . Where do you live in Indiana ??

Not to be rude Grammy, but look above your post. And my vet charges less for a neuter. :yikes: $325!! thats crazy talk!