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Don't post something on a public forum and then start moaning about someone linking to it, reading it, or quoting it. It's not like someone's hacking into your e-mail; don't post something on a public forum if you want it kept private.
 

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GD, I was merely correcting you that 'education' has been very frequently mentioned.

she thinks she nail me,,,,that was wrong,,,, now first off--- i owned apbt for many years--- 20 + years ,,, now with that said ---

1. to truely know the apbt and how it came be..

2. though you may not respect what they were used for, respect the dogs
that made them what they are,,

3.. try to keep the breed to its true to form,,

4.. learn what i can about previous apbts and help anyone i can

Game dog is the best web site i've found to learn about the true apbt,,,not petbull

i do take very good care of my dogs,,, very much so,,, but a apbt is the best dog out there,,,a simple reflection of myself,,,not an ego booster,,,a apbt may not start it but it will handle business if need be,,,

it is a public forum and u posting what i said doesn't offend me ,,, one bit,,,
THANKS YA'LL I FEEL THE LOVE,,, MAKING ME ALL WARM INSIDE,,stop it,,,:D :D :D :D
if you knew me it might be different,,,

now ladies and gents---- dogmen take care of they're animals
street punks and back yard breeders do not,,,
 

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Don't post something on a public forum and then start moaning about someone linking to it, reading it, or quoting it. It's not like someone's hacking into your e-mail; don't post something on a public forum if you want it kept private.
EDIT---- LOOK I HAVE NO ILL FEELING TO NOONE HERE

she can go back and hunt dirt on me,,,, i'd probroly investigate to,,,,
might not post it though,,it's okay delisey (mispelled),,,
 
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GD,

1. I don't recall which individuals mentioned 'education' and have no strong feelings about it. I am genuinely curious and interested, though, to understand what those dot points were intended to be. Perhaps someone could summarise and get us all back on track. (Seriously - constructively.)

2. 5 out of every 6 posters here probably know more about PBs than I do ... which would seem (to me) like a most peculiar thing to have a 'grudge' about, so I certainly don't have one! :lol-sign:

Calm...........
I see no reason to respond directly to anything you have said in this quote, it is apparent that you are, in fact, unsure of what you have said, so I will leave it at that, for now.
 

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but a apbt is the best dog out there
LOL, yeah, everyone thinks that about their own dogs/breed. Heck, I think my herding dogs are 'the best' out there. It's all just opinion though. Not fact.

now ladies and gents---- dogmen take care of they're animals
street punks and back yard breeders do not,,,
Sigh. Not that "dogmen" crap again. Nothing to respect there and I don't see fighting dogs as 'taking good care' of them either...They're no better than those punks and backyard breeders.
 

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I see no reason to respond directly to anything you have said in this quote, it is apparent that you are, in fact, unsure of what you have said, so I will leave it at that, for now.
Wha'?! Now you've thrown me!!! Oooh...Kaaaay! :lol-sign:

You've a bit of an ongoing issue with not seeing a reason to respond to sincere questions, haven't you?!
 

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LOL, yeah, everyone thinks that about their own dogs/breed. Heck, I think my herding dogs are 'the best' out there. It's all just opinion though. Not fact.



Sigh. Not that "dogmen" crap again. Nothing to respect there and I don't see fighting dogs as 'taking good care' of them either...They're no better than those punks and backyard breeders.




A TRUE DOGMAN CARES FOR THEY'RE ANIMALS
 

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A TRUE DOGMAN CARES FOR THEY'RE ANIMALS
Riiiight. Fighting dogs does not equal careing for them. Exercise them? Give them the best food? Sure, but only because being healthy and in good shape is an advantage in a fight.

Hey, they might even be sad if their dog dies or gets seriously injured in a fight. But that doesn't mean they truly care for those dogs, if they did they wouldn't be fighting them in the first place and putting them in a situation where they can get killed or seriously injured.

You don't do that to a living being you claim to care about.
 
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You've a bit of an ongoing issue with not seeing a reason to respond to sincere questions, haven't you?!
What "ongoing issue" is this that you speak of? This is not a thread of "20 questions," personal ones at that, have I asked anything of you? The only thing you asked in what I responded to is if one could summarise something you have missed in this thread. To be honest, I'm not a babysitter, and I'm not going to read over this entire thread again just to "summarise" something for you that you can read for yourself. I'm not sure as to what this "ongoing issue" you are referring to is all about, but you, and others, seem to have an "ongoing issue" in the department of reading, comprehending, and asking others to do your own "interesting" works for you.
 

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Originally Posted by stevinski: whats a dogman?

SOMEONE HERE ANSWER HIM,,, YOU SEEM TO KNOW EVERYTHING ELSE
:lol-sign: :lol-sign:

I think it's a dog handler who fights their dogs ... or at least it used to be. These days (maybe?) it's also used just to refer to someone who cares for their game-breed dogs in a traditional (passionate) way.

(Yay?? Nay?? How'd I do???)

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Riiiight. Fighting dogs does not equal careing for them. Exercise them? Give them the best food? Sure, but only because being healthy and in good shape is an advantage in a fight.

Hey, they might even be sad if their dog dies or gets seriously injured in a fight. But that doesn't mean they truly care for those dogs, if they did they wouldn't be fighting them in the first place and putting them in a situation where they can get killed or seriously injured.

You don't do that to a living being you claim to care about.
Moderator? People such as this person should not be allowed, period, to reply to a thread in which they must assume such extremist attitudes and rationale. And, until this is rectified, I shall not make a single post more.
 
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:lol-sign: :lol-sign:

I think it's a dog handler who fights their dogs ... or at least it used to be. These days (maybe?) it's also used just to refer to someone who cares for their game-breed dogs in a traditional (passionate) way.

(Yay?? Nay?? How'd I do???)

Del.
BOY do you have ur drawers in a wad or what?:D

i do like the yah hay how do i,,,:D
 

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Moderator? People such as this person should not be allowed, period, to reply to a thread in which they must assume such extremist attitudes and rationale.
Since when is saying something negative about people that FIGHT their dogs...on a dog forum full of people who I think are against it no less, something that requires moderator attention? If someone doesn't fight their dogs then I'm obviously not reffering to them.
 
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Hope thios helps This is a picture of my dog he is on the bigger side. The first dogs posted were conditioned and or worked very well this is an example of a dog not being worked but stilll fit called chain weight.
Most bulldogs are kept at this state when not in conditioning- although most are smaller.

 

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Ridiculous huh? Well I hope you and your dog rest easy tonight, knowing people in uniforms who refuse to listen to reason will not come into your home and take him away from you- largely because no one cares to spread the truth, not lies, about you and your dog. Enjoy knowing at least you have an ally in the APBT owner if your dog becomes so persecuted. We will at least understand your heartache, and mourn the loss of your breed with you.
Oh please spare me your own little tantrum there, where you get all emotional and misty eyed and toss your red herrings out left and right... what on EARTH does that have to do with attacking us and calling us "pet owners" and using culling as a method to control your populations, since you own WORKING dogs, and then the truth comes out that so far, exactly TWO of you have admitted to being involved in ANY sort of organized dog "sport" at ALL! I *own* a banned breed and do my best to fight BSL every single day - but let me tell you, the "mystery" you guys insist on surrounding yourself with here doesn't do crap for it. Specific posters here have done their best to state directly as well as imply, that WORKING DOGS are somehow deserving of different treatment - they can be kept outside, they can not be health tested, they can be culled.

SO HOW ARE THEY WORKING DOGS. It is not a hard question. And THEN it comes out that the "working nature" some of you use is apparently that the dog goes for WALKS!

Yes, that my friends is both ridiculous and hypocritical.

Although many "pet owners" and "breeders" do not care about the working abilities of their animals, those who let the dogs prove their own health-state and do not believe in (artificial) "health testing" should not be shunned because of their lack of need.
You guys must be lucky you don't need to use the general public to place your dogs, because if anyone ever came to me and told me that line, I'd tell them flat out, yes, it too is bullshit. Don't shun because the testing isn't NEEDED???? do I even need to go there?

and HOW ARE THEY WORKING?
and this is a falsity, by the way - working dogs every single day can have health problems, and a drivey dog will continue to compete and work DESPITE them. I've seen dogs with HD still go out there and do agility and schutzhund, i've seen dogs with structural deformities go out there just fine, i've seen animals going blind never skip a beat. PROVING your dog is healthy involves TESTING, otherwise you're just paying lip service. Drive can push a dog a very far distance - my dog once ran his carpal pads off in the dark playing fetch and never stopped for one instant .

Hell, I competed with a dog with a herniated disk, cancer, and heart disease, and put a title on him. Working doesn't mean you are healthy. You prove that by testing and telling.

I think sometimes people don't realize that health defects can also remain hidden. Low-grade heart murmurs. Hip sockets that aren't necessarily dysplastic but aren't really good either. In an individual dog, not a real problem. But breed that dog to another with an incognito issue and it becomes a real problem. Inadvertently setting the faults into the bloodline.

Another thing is that some health problems are degenerative. The hot working dog you breed at 2 or 3 may not have problems that you can discern at that age. And when he gets older, stiffness or other minor issues may be dismissed as just a sign of age.

Health-testing is a tool. Its not the top decider in a breeding program, and its not the devil either. :) Health-testing a dog doesn't make them worthless by any means, and I don't believe it shows mistrust in the dog's breeder either. Its just something that can help you breed stronger dogs. Not everybody's going to use it, but I wish more would.
thank you for a reasonable post! and yes, i saw where you said that some people wanted some secrecy . You don't have to tell me you have a treadmill, say the dogs run for 40 minutes. I don't care - but my point is, having a treadmill STILL doesn't mean you have a working dog. I use a springer and bike my dog - that doesn't make him a working dog. It's a personal distinction, but its a hypocritical one for some others to make, since many dogs on this forum (who are NOT working dogs IMO) do get similar amounts of exercise.
 
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