*VENT* I feel..disgusted. "Quota-filler" Im so sick of this racism BULL****

yes but I don't think this would put his arrogance in check at all I think it would just make it worse.

NOW if he turns in his stuff, interviews or whatever... they will realize he's an asshat and he'll get turned down with no one to blame but himself. THAT will put a damper on his arrogrance. but having someone else to blame for not getting in will just make him worse I think

I helped one of the attorneys I worked for do screenings for Columbia. The notes attached were never seen by the candidates or referred to directly. They're just a means to alert interviewers to issues that may need to be addressed.

I'm sorry you had to run into that idiot. But listen....everyone just about has something rotten they have to deal with sometime in their life...unfair things, idiotic people, you name it. It's just one of those things. You know who you are, who your family is. That's the important thing. I grew up mostly in the Seattle area. (a port city) I was accustomed to being with people of all kinds of races and wasn't raised to base my opinions on people based on skin color. My family wasn't that way at all. I couldn't care less what someone's skin color is. It's what they believe in, what they do that matters. Sometimes there's a group of like people who band together and do rotten things. Sometimes not. But anyhow, remember...those that mind don't matter. Those that matter don't mind. My mother use to tell me, when I was having some kind of "beat down" from someone about something, "remember who you are and what you stand for." I think that's a good thing to keep uppermost in your mind. And all the other B.S. will just roll right off you.

I am caucasion, but have very olive complexion and I get VERY dark in the summer....more so when I was younger. I love having skin that is tough and doesn't tend to burn except maybe the first time out in the sun for the season if I stay out too long. LOL. My son also gets so dark that people ask him if he is Mexican. LOL. He doesn't have features that are Mexican...it's just that he gets so tan easily.

There are all kinds of mixtures of races and nationalities in America. Maybe in England (that's where you are, right?) they don't have as long a history of having such a melting pot of races and nationalities there and so aren't use to it. (not that this doesn't happen in America, but maybe even within America, there are tendencies...for example: port cities have always had more people from other countries and continents coming and going so seeing people of various ethnic backgrounds is more usual to people there than say, from more isolated, smaller towns etc.

Anyhow, I don't agree with these quota rules, where they have to accept a certain number of some particular race. I don't believe in government interference with stuff like that from a political standpoint. I think reverse discrimination is equally wrong and it is getting to be very prevelent, in some cases it's over shadowed or upstaged "regular" discrimination.

I know, from your posts that you come from a hard working, upper class family, that you're educated, strive hard for achievement as your family has, so I don't believe for one minute that you were accepted based on your color. You earned your place. I think that dumb jerk who said that to you was basing his words on ignornace of who you are and he was incredibly rude. But if it isn't one thing in life, it will be another. You're the better person, so try to slog through the best you can, don't get bogged down by idiots and you'll come out on top.

I kinda know what you are doing through, Miss Fran. I am sorry you had to go through that. Living in the South, in THIS state, Racism and prejudiceness is very common. For example, the only black teacher left in the high school I came from was just fired because the job he had was no longer necessary, BUT, it is easy to argue there's more to it. His other collegues who were fired were just rejobbed and remained at the school. He was the ONLY one who was fired and not given another job!

Times are changing, just very slowly.

Fran, I am so sorry, and I am giving you virtual ((((HUGS))))

I haven't had a similar experience, but was in a relationship with someone who did, and he remembered every single time someone used the "n word" to describe him, and probably nearly every racist slight he ever heard. Racist remarks hurt, no matter how much you try to tell yourself it shouldn't matter what an ignorant jackass says. And, frankly, nothing that I have experienced as a white woman compares to what an average person of color experiences.

And you are a rockstar for rescinding your request. I'm with a prior poster -- I'm not sure that I would've! (Okay, probably so, but it would've been tough, lol.) And congratulations on NYU! How fun!

I knew a guy who moved to the US from Germany and he openly told people his grades weren't good, and the only reason he got into the university here was because he had moved here from Germany. He wasn't exactly bragging about it, but it sort of felt that way when I was sitting here, having lived my whole life in this town, bringing a 4.0 and good ACT scores to the table... and I still couldn't get in. I think he was trying to be more like "don't feel bad, because the only reason I got in is because I'm German," but it didn't exactly help.

It does suck when you have worked your ass off to get something and people don't recognize your hard work. Or they think it just comes easy to you or something. I get that a lot, apparently I "look" like the kind of person that things just come easy to, whatever that "looks" like..? People are crazy no matter what you look like IMO... they can just be rude and stupid and judgmental for the dumbest reasons.
I think this guy has bigger problems than just his racist remark though. Obviously he's a supreme idiot. Rest assured his grades and test scores aren't going to be anywhere near yours, because he's clearly missing a large chunk of his brain.

I was raised by a family that was very racist. I wasn't even allowed to have a black barbie doll. Yeah, it was that bad. Once I grew up and left and had my own experiences I realized how wrong they really were.

If you were to have told me this story back when I was a kid I would have agreed with what this boy was telling you. I now know better, and I think that you did the right thing, Fran. Some people honestly don't know any better.

I agree 110%. He shouldn't have said it. And im sorry he did. It was really really crappy.

But his future shouldn't go down the crapper because he hurt your feelings. He probley worked very hard to even think of applying to an ivy league school. We all make mistakes. People say stupid, racist things. But thats how he was raised and what he was raised around. Should he learn to edit his thoughts before he speaks? YES

Should he totally lose out on a chance to go to a good school because he made a very stupid comment.

Absolutely not.

I wouldn't be proud about getting his application thrown out either. Do you realize how many people say that kinda stuff and still get into Ivy League schools? Why should he be any different?

Just my opinion. Again im sorry you had to experience his ignorance.

I just saw this. Im glad things worked out. I totally understand your anger towards him.

Enjoy eclipse

Sorry that you were the brunt of his venting but the fact is that there ARE quotas for those of other skin colors. Public schools/colleges have to do it to get funding from the state so, he wasn't entirely incorrect. Should he have accused you of being a quota filler? No, but he wasn't wrong about the root theme though.

As far as his prospective admission to Harvard or wherever. Putting a note on his application is totally fine. Schools can take whoever they want, and have whatever criteria they want. The fact that they don't know about the racist tendencies of most of their applicants doesn't mean they don't want the heads up if it is available.

A) This kid should have thought before he spoke. B) He should have applied to more than one school.

There are many things wrong with the whole situation. I would have no problem with his app being tossed. Welcome to the real world kid, you never know who has connections where, and your words and actions DO have consequences.

This. I think for being a bigot, he deserves to have his application tossed. Nowhere would I want someone with an Ivy League degree and that kind of attitude working. I hope he ends up working at Mc.D's.

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wow, all this time i thought you got accepted because you are brilliant & beautiful. i guess i'm the dumb one.

absoluetely agree w/ hillside

i find it sad that people believe racism only happens to darker skined people.

i am pasty white and can not count the time i have been a victim of racism.
i was poor poor poor kid who was the only white girl in her class , only the 2nd white girl in school ( the other one was my sister ) and i have been treated like a second class citizen , the taunt of cracker , red neck , honky hurt just as bad as they "other ones" .
i have went home bruised and battered cause it was such fun to beat up the white kid.

so i dont really know why i am posting this ,except that i saw someone up there allude that white people dont feel racism, but to point out racism affects all people

ignorance should be fought no matter what color you are.

It's across the board Bogart. One of my favorites was, my ex's best friend. He'd been drinking and we were playing cards, I beat him at Rummy.

He turned around and called me a "sand nigger" - then again I told him he should watch it, us "sand niggers" will blow up his car it was deeply satisfying.

Filler Quota? I WISH MAN! I'm black, I have a 3.8 GPA, the school that I wanted to go to have a minimum of 2.7 GPA and you need an ACT score of 20.

Well unfortunately, I didn't do too good in my ACT score. I got a 19, just needed one more point. I got a 19 both times I tested( yes, sucked horribly). I had thought that maybe, just maybe, my GPA would have gotten me through, and I was just ONE point from the minimum requirements for the ACT.

Nope, got sent a denied letter. It didn't really matter to them that I was black, I didn't meet all the requirements, so I didn't get in. I guess it depends on the college.

DING DING DING!

Although, there is nothing wrong with being merciful either.

I think the note is a good idea. I feel like he should have a little reminder that he came this || close to being up the creek, instead of being relieved because nothing came of the incident.

I mean, ideally, his attitude will change as his experiences grow... but getting him to keep his ****ing mouth shut works too.