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Old 11-22-2012, 07:41 AM
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Anyone on that FB group?

I just recently joined at the urging of some IRL friends, and the first post I come across is major breeder bashing.
Followed by trolling of other pages to share pics and videos and pick them apart.
Constant personal attacks, instead of discussing the methods.
*I* got attacked for saying its disingenuous to post a picture of an imbedded prong injury and call it a training injury. I got questioned about my intentions of being on the site and demanded to know what tools I use.

Really???

If this is the image positive trainers are forging for themselves I despair.
NONE of my IRL PR trainer friends are like this at ALL!!
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Old 11-22-2012, 07:54 AM
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Oh the irony! The thread where I posted essentially the same thing I***8217;m saying here just got deleted....
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Old 11-22-2012, 08:18 AM
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Anyone on that FB group?

I just recently joined at the urging of some IRL friends, and the first post I come across is major breeder bashing.
Followed by trolling of other pages to share pics and videos and pick them apart.
Constant personal attacks, instead of discussing the methods.
*I* got attacked for saying its disingenuous to post a picture of an imbedded prong injury and call it a training injury. I got questioned about my intentions of being on the site and demanded to know what tools I use.

Really???

If this is the image positive trainers are forging for themselves I despair.
NONE of my IRL PR trainer friends are like this at ALL!!


All I can say is, some "Positive" trainers are nothing short of crazy, sadly.

Funny, I just had to switch a client dog from a head halter to a prong. The head halter was working great for them in many ways except it was rubbing the poor dog's nose raw, no matter what we did. Tried several brands, tried padding the noseband, no dice.

Too bad I don't have a picture of it for you. TRAINING INJURY!
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Old 11-22-2012, 08:37 AM
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Its really unfortunate... It seems like some folks on there have a lot of wonderful information to share, but it gets completely lost in the snark fest. I***8217;m pretty secure in my training and my beliefs, I can***8217;t imagine how someone new to the page or a lurker looking for some ideas - Beyond CM - might feel seeing what is said on that page
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Old 11-22-2012, 08:40 AM
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That group is filled with so much nasty and meanness it's amazing.

Were you the one who said something on that Dozer person's thread that got deleted?
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Old 11-22-2012, 08:50 AM
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Yeppers... I said the adminís comment sounded like she was either threatening you or calling you an idiot and apologies if I misread.

Itís just such a shame to have so much good information go to waste just because a few canít grow some people skills!!
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Old 11-22-2012, 08:55 AM
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Yeah, there is very little actual training discussion that goes on there. It's a giant bash fest. They scour the internet for things they deem inappropriate and then rip those people to shreds like pack of wild dogs. It's sad. It's not constructive. And it's certainly not going to help anyone learn to train.

For a big group of "positive" trainers they are more cruel on that group than you would think possible.

Which is why I chimed in for the first time ever on that thread that got deleted.
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Old 11-22-2012, 09:04 AM
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Off putting for sure

I posted a ***8220;thought***8221;. Hoping they at least think about it...
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Old 11-22-2012, 09:12 AM
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I just found the group and read your thought, very well said.
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Aw shucks! Thanks
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