Yukon's life story from start until now very long sorry

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Bits and pieces have been posted and it is time to post the whole truth. I have just not had time to sit down and type it all out for everyone. I did go ahead and post on global paw so no one has to keep quiet for me. If my old enemies attack me then I will just leave there.

The original breeder of Yukon suffered a heart attack and died before the litter was born. His wife had severe cancer so she sold the mom to a guy that she hoped would care for her and the pups. When Yukon was 4 weeks old he was taken from the mom along with all the other pups. Way to young yes but not my fault. I have no clue what happened to mom was told she was sent to a shelter, could be true no idea. The puppies were put in a tiny crate all together and left there until sold. My husbadn and I saw the puppies when they were 6 weeks old and thought well maybe we buy the male. 3 weeks later we went in and bought him, $3000 Can. We named him Yukon after his grandfather, who we knew. When we brought him home he could hardly walk from being confined in such a small space. He had major issues with the crate too. Can you blame him? NO

We took him to obedience classes which at 10 weeks of age was young but we felt it was much needed and he recieved his basic obedience in 6 lessons done in 4 weeks. He was very good and slowely the crate issues were getting much better. He still to this day pees in the crate but we rarely use it so that is liveable with us.

When Yukon was 4 months old we enrolled him in an advanced obedience class which was done privately 2 times a week for three weeks. No group lesson this time, because I had no babysitter for my kids. I think the advanced obedience class would have been better named Puppy 2 because it was more of the same things, but adding distance between handler and dog.

During this time we were invited to my best friends wedding out of town and left Yukon at a kennel which came highly recommended. There he was repeated attacked by a rotti. Even after the first incident the owner of the kennel still put them out together. Yukon since then has been very dog aggressive. Again can you blame him? NO He is fine if the dog comes on his property and they play but to meet on the street no way bad news.

When Yukon was 5 months being the stupid fool that I was we went away again but this time we left a very good friend in charge of walking Yukon. This guy was a regular visitor who new Yukon well. But for whatever reason he took it upon himself to beat the holy living hell out my baby because he peed in the crate. He even bragged this to my husband who informed me right away. The guy got a broken nose. But this started Yukon on his path of biting. To make matters worse I did not learn my lesson the first time nor the second a week later we went away just for one day, 13 hours and we hired a professional Pet Sitter. A professional! This guy also beat the holy living hell out of Yukon said it was because he growled at him, then no it was because he bit at him, then no it was because he snarled, well what was it? We found out later from my sister-in-law that the jerk took Yukon and placed him in the bathtub so that if Yukon peed it would easily wash do the drain. This was well thought out and he bragged it to my sister-in-law because she was there when we came home and she had told him she did not like Yukon.
We are going to court over this and as soon as I win, I will post his name, company worked for and phone number. Can't release that until I win though.

So this started Yukon on the path of biting and becoming a terrible fear biter. Cannot blame the poor dog one bit. He is scared out of his mind and it is because I allowed this to happen not once, not twice but three times. He is not a bad dog, he has a heart of gold. Even after me allowing this to take place he still glues himself to me and follows me everywhere.

We were getting very concerned for the kids safety and the people on the streets safety so we tried to seek outside help. After going through many many people we found someone willing to take Yukon and work with him in a non aggressive way. He left this morning. He was returned tonight and we were told to tether him to us at all times when the girls are around and to start desensitizing him very very slowely. He did not see one speck of aggression it was sheer fear and it was repairable but would take along long time. We are willing to put in that time. Yukon is not a bad dog I was a bad owner and from now on if my dogs cannot come with me, I do not go. Never ever again will anyone have the chance to abuse my dogs. Yukon is 6 months old and has live a lifetime of hell all ready.

His shoulder injury came from the first beating and was reinjured in the second. He is improving and he is getting better but he has along way to go both emotionally and physically. I refuse to re home this dog or PTS him. I will devote my time and energy to him; he deserves that; it is the least I can do for him after exposing him to this hell. I take full responsiblilty and it makes me tear up everytime I look at his small face. He tries so hard to show his to the kids and to my husband but he is scared. I have no problems with him at all and I do not understand that because it is my fault this happened to him. Poor pup, he will get so much better and never have to worry again.

I am sorry this is so long and I will not harrass any of you further about any of this. I just thought you ahd a right to now the truth and the whole truth. Thanks for reading it all because it was long winded I know. Again SORRY.
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Aw, I'm sorry Yukon had to go through that. I'm in a kind of similar position-- as you know.

I hope all goes well for you; you're a great owner for actually wanting to help your boy, help him improve. It sounds to me like you've put forth a lot of great effort and to me, that's a good owner.

Many people may say that... for example, I wasn't able to socialize Rocky for a lot of reasons. Many people may say that's a **** poor excuse; but that's the way it happened. I also had hit Rocky a couple of times because well, I didn't know any other way; every other way I tried didn't go well for me. So I started doing that; and basically, I'm paying for my consequences.

But right now, I am working very hard, HAVE been working very hard, at building a strong bond between me n' him. And desensitizing him to the things that make him want to get angry.

We all make mistakes; we're only human. I don't believe you're a bad owner; not one bit.
 

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No, Yucka, you're not a bad owner at all. People go places and leave their dogs in what they think are caring hands all the time. You are no different; the major difference is the sheer bad luck you had with the people you chose to care for Yukon. Not your fault, the fault of the people who think it is ok to hit a dog that does not belong to them. Had they done this to a human child, they would have long been in jail.

This does shed a lot of light. I knew about the second incident and the problems with the crating, but I had been under the impression that Yukon's biting was a sudden, aggressive development, not a fear response to things that startled him. It makes more sense why he's going after your kids now. Children are loud and tend to flail around. From his prior experience, loud and large movements generally mean very bad things to him. Good for you for getting him help! I apologize for suggesting you rehome him, I didn't know the full story.
 
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Thanks for the kind words. Yukon is sleeping right now and he is making sicking noises, and sticking his tongue out. Everyone laughs and says it is because he was weaned to early. I think he is dreaming of his mom, but I tend to be a bit sensitive and silly sometimes.
 

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I understand you feel guilty but it's not you to blame, it's the people that did the actions. You thought it was the best at the time, well it turned out not to be true. Can't dwell on the past if you want to progress. Keep up the training, socializing, and desesitizing with Yukon. Don't you think it will work out in the long run? There are no quick fixes when a dog has been treated such a way.
 

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Yucka, you are not a bad owner.You may think you made some wrong choices, but you are not bad. And I'm sorry about the whole thing...I hope Yukon improves!
 

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That poor dog, I understand why he is biting now, I thought it was due to aggression, also. Good luck with him

I'm also glad that jerk got his broken nose :) :D
 

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You're not a bad dog owner! A bad dog owner would never have even tried to get responsible care for their dog. They'd have left it. A bad owner would have also tossed their dog out after it started to show behavioral problems.
I think it's awful what Yukon had to go through but it's great of you to be willing to work things out with him, and try to get him back to normal. :)
 
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Nothing you have posted indicates he has crappy temperament. He is too much dog for you. A dog like this should not have been placed in an inexperienced home with young children.



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That's exactly what I got out of all these postings.

The reason I almost NEVER recommend a GSD to people that see me out and about with my dogs is because of what is happening to this poster and (sadly) her dog. She sounds like she has EXACTLY what many GSD breeders are breeding for. A high drive, high energy, extremely intelligent GSD. And WAY too much dog for someone busy with a husband and kids and who hasn't raised a pup like this before.

Are all GSD's like this? Of course not. But many are and end up put to sleep, or surrendered to shelters. And it's not because the puppy is 'bad'. Or that the owners didn't try. It was just WAY too much for either to live in the home they were placed in.

Did anyone discuss her calling the original breeder and having them rehome the pup? How about having her contact the local police departments or local search and rescue or other place that is looking for WORKING puppies?

The puppy is acting 100% like a puppy with way too much uh, everything, and the owner sounds at her wits end, just like anyone would that didn't have the skills/background/experience and TIME to work on this.





This is a direct quote nothing altered, and they are still constantly emailing me to insist that I re home Yukon. I just do not get it because no one else thinks I should be rid of the dog. THe funny thing is all of the responses are like this, so either they want me to re home Yukon because they want him; or they have singled me out for no apparent reason and will do whatever it takes to drive me nuts.

Well I have been forced of the board in order to keep my sanity, what little is left. I joined a new gsd forum and they have followed me there so I just gotta wonder when are they going to come here and insist the Yukon be re homed because he is too much dog for me. I post the indentical thing there as here, so where does it suggest that he is too much dog for me? Where does it suggest that re homing is his only option? I have said it may times does not take much to confuse me; right now I am extremely confused at the emails that are pouring in from one forum that are the exact opposite to the response from 3 other forums.
 
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That's a nice story about the first beating but it's quite different in your first version. Nice touch with the pet sitter story. I must say, you have a very vivid imagination.
 
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thewhitewitchone said:
That's a nice story about the first beating but it's quite different in your first version. Nice touch with the pet sitter story. I must say, you have a very vivid imagination.
Excuse me??? Not different at all we left a trusted friend to look after Yukon and he had the nerve to brag about it. I gave every detail this time last time I gave the general idea. Get off your high horse no one is out to get you or your business. Are you doing that poorly that you need to attack me? If you need a boost then do not look at me for one but there must be people here who use pet sitters and swear by them. Why don't you start a thread about positive experiences with pet sitters? Maybe that would make you feel better.
 

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Ah, crap, not this again. :rolleyes:

If you don't believe her or have no sympathy, then IGNORE THE THREAD. And if it does turn out that Heather is lying to us, which I don't think she is, why does it matter to you if she gets some extra sympathy?
 
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It is because I was feeling guilty and did not know people here that well so I only typed pieces but did not tell that we actually were away for a couple of days. I just said we were putting groceries away and trying to get kids to bed when a friend stopped by. Truth is we were at the wedding a few days. I was putting kids to be and trying to get dirty close in the laundry while this jerk was bragging to my husband. So Marc informed me how Joel ahd done this and I punched him in the nose. The reason he gave was that Yukon had pooped and peed in the crate because he missed his noon walk. Well a 4 month old should not have to hold it for 12 hours anyway, that is why we had a friend come to walk the dog.

Not the same wedding this time not a friend my sister in laws and we were only gone over night.
 
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Because I hate people who lie and make **** up to get attention, that's why. All you have to do is read her post "A Visitor took it upon themselves to beat my dog" to see that this story has two totally different versions.
Mostly I am just pissed that she apparently made up a story about a pet sitter abusing her dog and why wouldn't I get mad about that? If she lied about what happened with the first alleged beating, why wouldn't she lie about the pet sitter abusing her dog? I caught her in a big fat lie and she felt she just had to make this post to cover her ass.
And why does she deserve "extra sympathy"? For what? I've been reading her posts for months and it's always some ploy to get people to feel sorry for her and shower her with attention. I find that pathetic.
 
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Zoom said:
Ah, crap, not this again. :rolleyes:

If you don't believe her or have no sympathy, then IGNORE THE THREAD. And if it does turn out that Heather is lying to us, which I don't think she is, why does it matter to you if she gets some extra sympathy?

Thanks Zoom but I do not need sympathy, Yukon is improving daily and yes it is lots of work and still along way to go but we will get there. I learned my lesson and never again do I leave my dog with anyone.
 
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Because I hate people who lie and make **** up to get attention, that's why. All you have to do is read her post "A Visitor took it upon themselves to beat my dog" to see that this story has two totally different versions.
Mostly I am just pissed that she apparently made up a story about a pet sitter abusing her dog and why wouldn't I get mad about that? If she lied about what happened with the first alleged beating, why wouldn't she lie about the pet sitter abusing her dog? I caught her in a big fat lie and she felt she just had to make this post to cover her ass.
And why does she deserve "extra sympathy"? For what? I've been reading her posts for months and it's always some ploy to get people to feel sorry for her and shower her with attention. I find that pathetic.

There is only one person here who is pathetic and it ain't me. If you find me so horrible then why do you not just place me on ignore. Problem solved!
 
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Except me.He is welcome to sleep in bed with us anytime,as long as he doesnt hog all the covers lol.I am glad he is coming around for ya.I still cant believe those crazy monkeys trying to eat my fingers at the zoo lol.
 

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