Youth/Malinois K9 Team
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I'm mostly seeing a little girl that is being taught way too young to be rough with dogs. Sad 
Throughout the video I see a lot of tight leash on the prong, a lot of jerking(but she's too little now to really make a dent, but one day she may be), and at least twice in the video where she fully outright smacks the dog across the face with her hand. *shakes head*
Throughout the video I see a lot of tight leash on the prong, a lot of jerking(but she's too little now to really make a dent, but one day she may be), and at least twice in the video where she fully outright smacks the dog across the face with her hand. *shakes head* 
On one hand...good for someone that young to take an interest in training but YEESH. Teach proper leash handling before videotaping at the very least...I would have been all over anyone in my classes who handled a leash like that. Age is no excuse, I have taught a 5 year old how to properly handle a leash. A 9 year old should be much more competent if she's working at the stage of "drop on recall". *shakes head* Not impressed.
Teach proper leash handling before videotaping at the very least...I would have been all over anyone in my classes who handled a leash like that. Age is no excuse, I have taught a 5 year old how to properly handle a leash. A 9 year old should be much more competent if she's working at the stage of "drop on recall". *shakes head* Not impressed.
^^^Agreed.
The impression I got throughout was that the girl was scared of or intimidated by her dog. She was very tense throughout the obedience section, said that she does not like doing protection work, and then seemed to be even more tense and scared of her dog throughout the protection part. Not only did she do a lot of tight leash and leash corrections, but the corrections were not timed well - the dog was nearly knocking the girl over heeling so close to her side (head out in front of her), yet the girl stil did several leash corrections jerking her even closer. The "drop it" with the toy also made me cringe. JMO, though.
I will say, though, that I'm happy to see such a young kid showing an interest in training her dog! That's becommng increasingly rare, and should definately be encouraged!!!
The impression I got throughout was that the girl was scared of or intimidated by her dog. She was very tense throughout the obedience section, said that she does not like doing protection work, and then seemed to be even more tense and scared of her dog throughout the protection part. Not only did she do a lot of tight leash and leash corrections, but the corrections were not timed well - the dog was nearly knocking the girl over heeling so close to her side (head out in front of her), yet the girl stil did several leash corrections jerking her even closer. The "drop it" with the toy also made me cringe. JMO, though.
I will say, though, that I'm happy to see such a young kid showing an interest in training her dog! That's becommng increasingly rare, and should definately be encouraged!!!
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this whole video made me cringe and wonder when that poor dog is going to get sick of the nagging leash corrections and correct that kid with her teeth. what's with the upward jerk with the pinch collar to get the dog to drop the ball?
i've seen videos on youtube of kids that age doing pretty nice freestyle routines with their dogs. i find that much more appropriate and impressive than a girl yanking a dog around on a pinch collar.
i've seen videos on youtube of kids that age doing pretty nice freestyle routines with their dogs. i find that much more appropriate and impressive than a girl yanking a dog around on a pinch collar.
As a mom who has a child who started competing at 6 (in aac agility) I am not the least bit impressed. And who ever is teaching a small child to use force in training a dog who is bigger than her needs to be shot.
Darien (who is 7...AND girls mature faster than boys) is doing very well with Sport who is a rescue dog. Give them a year and they will blow that girl out of the water
Darien (who is 7...AND girls mature faster than boys) is doing very well with Sport who is a rescue dog. Give them a year and they will blow that girl out of the water
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After watching the whole thing, I was concerned too. That is one talented dog, especially being a Malinois. And she SMACKED the dog :yikes:. She could seriously get hurt as she is still very small and weak (being a child). But the dog is awesome and seems to have a wonderful temperament.
But I do agree.I agree that she looks like a nice dog and that the kid is doing a good job with her. Sure, there are things I would do differently, but seeing a kid doing so much with a dog is impressive. On the other hand, I think it might be better to start a kid on a fully trained dog so that only one party has to learn the routine. Or, to pick a less complicated sport where both parties could be a little freer to have fun. Starting with schutzhund is starting at the top. But, congrats to her for tackling the mountain.
I agree with Dana. For all of you putting everything down, I would like to know how many of you have titled a dog in Schutzhund and to what level. I can promise that there is no other sport other than ring sports that even come close to using a complete dog. It's easy to criticize from the sidelines.
Sure there are things I would do differently as well, but I can at least see what they are trying to accomplish in doing certain things. Besides the swat at the end I don't see anything too terrible, but I do see a nice dog and a great job by a young girl. She handled that dog better than a lot of adults i've seen trying to do bitework sports.
Sure there are things I would do differently as well, but I can at least see what they are trying to accomplish in doing certain things. Besides the swat at the end I don't see anything too terrible, but I do see a nice dog and a great job by a young girl. She handled that dog better than a lot of adults i've seen trying to do bitework sports.
And that makes it better how? If she learns that this is okay to treat and train a dog this way- she will keep this method.
I would rather start a kid not "at the top" at have him/her do it right than jump in something that is obviously way over their head- only to do it wrong.
I agree... one day that dog will correct her- and then everyone will cry... the dog will be deemed dangerous and will be PTS. Hmm.. sounds awfully familiar with a lot of other cases.
I would rather start a kid not "at the top" at have him/her do it right than jump in something that is obviously way over their head- only to do it wrong.
I agree... one day that dog will correct her- and then everyone will cry... the dog will be deemed dangerous and will be PTS. Hmm.. sounds awfully familiar with a lot of other cases.
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The little "swat" was a safety issue to me. You know just as well as I do, those kind of corrections can backfire and resulting a nasty bite (even worse on a child). She is nervous when working that dog, and fortunately the dog is not feeding off that YET, because most dogs would take advantage of it.
Jules, just because she is taught a certain way doesnt mean those will always be her methods. Almost ALL positive trainers started of with compulsion.
Jules, just because she is taught a certain way doesnt mean those will always be her methods. Almost ALL positive trainers started of with compulsion.