your definition of a solid recall.

Dekka

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They s/n thread got me to thinking.

I think I have a different definition of a 'solid' recall than some others.

Mine means the recalls have been proofed. Just because a dog runs to you when ever you call them does not mean your dog has a 'solid' recall. If your dog will run to you every time you call even with toys, food, other people calling, dogs in heat, rabbits etc etc. Then you have a solid recall.

Kaiden has what I call a solid recall.

Compared to Dash, while he comes every time I call I would figure he would come if there was something truly exciting going on.

With the obed classes they would do crazy things to proof the dogs.. my fave was a toy hovercraft that one person flew around the dogs tryign to get them to run after it. (kaiden's challenge was a motorized squirrel toy that ran in an erratic manner)

What is your def?
 

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I would agree with your definition.

Sad to say, only Tyr has a rock solid recall, and I think that has a lot to do with his SA.

But Ares and Morgan both have rock solid stops. Ares was able to stop dead and lie down when he was half way down the driveway chasing a hopping frog - his head bobbing up and down watching the frog.
 

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I'm with you, although I like to think every dog has a weak spot. Which of course, means I can still call Meg's recall solid :p. I called her off the back end of a deer at full-chase; I've called her off countless dogs, squirels, cats, people, food. I've called her from so far away I wasn't sure she'd hear me, much less care. But I absolutely, in three different situations, have NOT been able to call her off rabbits. They are her crack. She doesn't come back until they are out of sight. I no longer take her to the green in our neighborhood during the late summer when they are out, because I know I won't get her back instantly if she sees one.
 

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But I absolutely, in three different situations, have NOT been able to call her off rabbits. They are her crack. She doesn't come back until they are out of sight. I no longer take her to the green in our neighborhood during the late summer when they are out, because I know I won't get her back instantly if she sees one.
Sounds like a good excuse to buy a pet bunneh. ;)
 
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I believe Bo has a solid recall. He can be walked off-leash (but I never do it) and never wander. I can call him from any distance, and it doesn't matter if he's eating something yummy, chasing wildlife, sniffing a good smell, allured by a fun toy, he still comes when called.

Sam's recall is also pretty rock solid for the same reasons.

Most of my guys have what I'd call a 'fairly good' recall, but I wouldn't call it solid. But it's something that is continuously worked on.
 
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To me a solid recall means that you are 99.9% sure your dog will come when called.

Blue and Teeny both fit that description. Now as of right now I do NOT count a call off in our bitework training as a recall because we have trained them thusfar in ways just to build drive. So that one aside: Teeny took off on my twice when she was around a year old. Granted it was only to race a circle around my house, then the neighbors house, then she came back. She has been proofed for near everything else because I have taught and taken classes that are based on leave it and come and uses heavy distractions. For Blue he has thusfar not blown me off for anything. But truthfully I haven't yet recalled him around an intact male bulldog (his nemesis) though he has been recalled past a female in heat AND an intact male Mal who had attacked him in the past.

Wally was really 100%. I called him off of a running deer, once. He was fantastic.
 

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Sounds like a good excuse to buy a pet bunneh.
And by pet bunneh, I assume you mean "expensive raw diet for Meg"? :rofl1: It's actually a bit sad; other than dogs, rabbits are the one house pet I would really like to have. I don't like owning caged animals, but I know many are litter trained and have the run of the house. I love rabbits and think that would be very cool But it will wait until after Meg, who I'm hoping will live to at least 30.
 
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I agree with you on what a solid recall is. Blaze has been called of anything I can think off that lives in durham region (animal wise). he has been called of his most favourite thing to chase in the whole wide world....a dirt bike. we let him chase my boyfriends under strict control and timing (he drives off for 15 seconds or more, then I let blaze go after him. But then call him back). dogs, rabbits, deer, skunks (thank DoG, since we both would have been sprayed tonight) cats, squrilles(sp?) and plenty others, bikes, skate boerds, rolerblades, scooters ect ect. Not that he chases all those things to begin with. but a quick "blaze" to get his attention is all thats needed to scratch the slightest idea of chasing them.

I don't like owning caged animals, but I know many are litter trained and have the run of the house. I love rabbits and think that would be very cool But it will wait until after Meg, who I'm hoping will live to at least 30.
Sid our old rabbit was litter trained, had free roam of the whole basment. was a excellent rabbit. and didnt let a dog or cat step the wrong foot near him, or he would tell him. lol
 

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Agreed with Dekka's definition as well.

Orson does NOT have a solid recall. I can't count on him to come to me in the backyard if he doesn't want to :rolleyes:

Phoebe's is CEMENT SOLID. She has and will return in mid chase of squirrels, rabbits, food, you name it she will come straight away. Doesn't matter if we are in the yard, at the dog park, or ANYWHERE............she's always 200%.
 

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I agree with that definition.

Lucy has a great recall. Which is funny to me because I never actually took the time to formally teach her the command. If she's chasing something, she'll stop dead in her tracks and come running to me if I call her.
 

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I agree with your definition, Matt seems to have a much looser idea of what "recall" means (which is why he is more likely to want to let Sierra off leash than I am, he seems to think "she'll be okay", when I know her recall is FAR from reliable right now).

We've actually been doing a lot of work in the past few weeks on her long line, and so long as I have her focus, recall isn't a problem. Once she's got her mind on something else, it's a cr@p shoot. If she knows I have treats on me, she's more likely to come when distracted than if she knows I'm empty handed.
 

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When they pull off of chasing a squirrel or a rabbit..then i know we are 100 percent.

WE did the long line..lines. ANd blowing me off always meant back on the leash without the pleasure of being free for days. That got to Pepper and VIctor more then anything else. I only use treats for the very very beginning. AFter that it is faster walks...or freetime as a reward. WE still practice daily even so. A 1o minute run through the basics before we move on to what we are working on.
 

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When they pull off of chasing a squirrel or a rabbit..then i know we are 100 percent.
My def is close to this. I have called Maddie and Missy off of a rabbit they were both chasing. For a split second (before I yelled "come") I wondered if they were going to feed off of eachother and ignore me, because it was almost like a race (who was going to catch it first) but they both peeled off and came running back to me. I just flat out gave them the jerky I had in my backpack for me (I get shakey if I don't eat after a while) :p
After Maddie got clawed by a cat she didn't much like outside cats (even though inside cats are still friends :rolleyes: ) and there was one time I thought she was ignoring me. She just made a WIDE turn around, the brat, but she came straight to me.

I know people who think there recall is rock solid, but could not call there dog back from greeting another dog (friendly). That is NOT solid. . ;)
 

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Archie had a wonderful recall. Deer included! But he can't really hear me anymore. I just keep him on a leash; and he never tries to run otherwise.
 
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The other thing to consider is how many times you give the "cue" I've seen people who insist their dogs come when called and then proceed to shout the dogs name 10 times before it responds...it technically came when called LOL


To me solid is calling the dog off som'thing but also giving the command no more than twice TOPS... Som'times there are moments when Im sure the dog didn't hear me due to distance or their own barking...

Emma is rock solid...can call her off mid chase with rabbits and off friendly dogs and people. Chili is certainly getting there as well.


I can get Kiwi under mild distraction, off dogs, but not wild animals yet.

Tippy is deaf in one ear and the other ear tunes me out. We're working on it. :)
 

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I can call both dogs off squirrels and rabbits, both come to me even around strange people, other dogs, toys, food etc. Eevee will still come running, even if she's terrified. I'd say that's pretty solid.
 
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I agree with Dekka's description of a solid recall as well. My boys...do not have one LOL *sigh* typical Huskies.... Its funny though if they are tethered on a long line or in a fenced in area their recall is superb! Because they know they can't really go anywhere anyways. Especially OC's recall. But out in the open its their game. Why come when called when there is so much running to do?
 

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Being able to be called off chasing a rabbit or deer is pretty darn solid.

My two patrol the gardens I work at to keep the bunnies and deer out. They are encouraged to chase the critters to the edge of the woods, and then I whistle them back.

Good pups who enjoy their job! ;)
 

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To me a soild recall is being able to call your dog off other people and dogs and really good food or a fave toy.
Now a rock soild recall is having the dog come well called while chaseing wild animals. On the first or second call.

That is my opinion anyway.
 

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