WWYD: Children Edition

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Definitely sounds like it is time for a new roommate!!

I always feed my dogs in crates, but I don't usually close Lily's. One of my past roommates had a guy over once (junior in college age mind you) and he reached right on in the touch her head while she was eating a big hunk of oxtail. Needless to say I started feeding her with door closed whenever she had people over. Or just waited until they left.

Also I am the only who feeds the dogs. Unless I have left specific instructions for a dog sitter when I'm gone of course.

I wouldn't be comfortable leaving my dog in that situation in the upcoming days... Anyway he can go with or something? Or go to a sitter while you are gone?

Hope you get a better roommate situation asap! :)
 

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It terrifies me that your roommate reproduced.
Mostly this.

I agree at 13 you can talk to the kid. When I worked with preteens and adolescents at the dojo, I did a lot of manners training with them. Not only on things like don't talk back, say please/thank you, but also with Tango. Eventually they got it through their heads but repetition is key.
 

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I have to agree with Dizzy on this one. I know you know you need to get rid of this roommate, and I'm not sure of the circumstances surrounding him still being there.

but... I've had roommate problems before. I've worried about my dogs and lost trust in roommates to act appropriately with them. I've taken dogs with me to work/left them in the car, crated dogs in locked rooms, padlocked kennels and boarded dogs to prevent issues from happening. Because they will, and I am not taking that risk once you've lost my trust.

It SUCKS. It's not fair at all. But you have to prevent something from happening, and that's the only way, sometimes.. Until you behead the guy in his sleep because you've finally lost it... Then you've won the battle! ;)
 

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I was about to go into a "they haven't been taught better/need more supervision" spiel, but then I saw that he is 13..


Do they have dogs of their own? Some people are just really clueless about dog behavior and have a friendship view of animals. As in "they're really nice, they won't bite me because we're friends" sort of thing and just have no idea that even the nicest dog can bite. It's not personal.

I'd probably stick with reiterating that we do not reach into dogs' bowls and that, even if a dog is ok with it once, does not mean he'll be ok with it again. And then feed in the crate, because sometimes people don't listen :p
Going to try this. No dogs of their own, and the previous one died before this kid. That dog was MAGICAL and didn't jump, counter surf, shed, or smell. He knew basic commands from the womb, and had an impeccable recall. He was the best dog ever born. I'm sure when we leave, Middie will be elevated to these standards in everyone's memory.

God, even just READING about this is pissing me off. I've had about 230948 times more than enough with kids doing stupid things with my dogs too.

Except that 13 is way too old. Like. What is he even thinking.

I also push the suggestion to crate the kid.

In seriousness though, I agree with Fran... feed Middie in a closed room to prevent anything from happening.

Though honestly, I'd lunge over and bite the kid's hand myself and just be like, "SEE? SEE, THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU REACH INTO A DOG'S BOWL."


... literally seething right now just from the thought LMAO.
I like these ideas. Including the hand in food.

I'd probably say something like "Dude, seriously? Aren't you smarter than that?" When logical reasoning doesn't work, "everyone knows you don't stick your hand in a dog's bowl while he's eating" along with some eye rolling and maybe an annoyed sigh.
I will try this instead of the measured, logical reasoning I've been trying. Thank you!!

It terrifies me that your roommate reproduced.

Since the kid is 13, if he still didn't get it after this I would walk over to him while he's eating his meals, lean really close and start grubbing through his food with your bare hands while he's eating.
Again, I love this idea. <3

That was gonna be my suggestion - stick your hand in his food while he's eating and ask him how he likes it. If he doesn't, point out the dog doesn't like it either.
Love x3!

feed my dog in a crate and find a new roommate :) at 13 I wonder just what's going on in his head? Either he has developmental issues and then the onus is on me to keep my dogs safe, or there has been a serious disconnect in all forms of parenting up to this point and I wouldn't really trust him around me at all.
I find it incredibly entertaining just how perceptive you are by reading posts. There are some developmental issues going on for sure. Nothing has been diagnosed officially, so it would be inappropriate to post my assumptions here. Let's just say that we are certain he has a problem. There's a joint custody arrangement with two VERY different parenting styles in different cities.

I have to agree with Dizzy on this one. I know you know you need to get rid of this roommate, and I'm not sure of the circumstances surrounding him still being there.

but... I've had roommate problems before. I've worried about my dogs and lost trust in roommates to act appropriately with them. I've taken dogs with me to work/left them in the car, crated dogs in locked rooms, padlocked kennels and boarded dogs to prevent issues from happening. Because they will, and I am not taking that risk once you've lost my trust.

It SUCKS. It's not fair at all. But you have to prevent something from happening, and that's the only way, sometimes.. Until you behead the guy in his sleep because you've finally lost it... Then you've won the battle! ;)
The circumstances just so we're clear (I should have mentioned, sorry) are as follows:

BF and I have been broke for a while due to unemployment. I just got a job, as did he, so filling up our coffers again is a possibility.
The R rents the house, we rent from him. We cannot kick him out. We cannot move out until we have a place to go and money to do so. We're working on it, but our escape plan is set for January at earliest. We have NOWHERE to go until then and CAN'T afford to move right now.

Honestly, I've never lived in the place where my roommate hasn't owned it or been the one on the lease.

The situation is hard, but not impossible and is taking time. We shortened our trip dramatically and are coming home tonight, we are also bringing him with us tomorrow, Sat, and Sun. We're done with the BS and I'm worried about Moo. He doesn't even really like the kid anymore, and he's normally obsessed with them. That alone worries me. That's the equivalent of Moo refusing bacon. He used to LOVE the kid and follow him endlessly with doe eyes, but now he clings to me. He still treats the other kids in the hood like they're The Bestest Things Ever, and while I have no proof of anything at all, I'm worried. Even the BF has commented.
 

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I know its not as simple as this, but I would likely loose it and tell them to leave, take their stuff and never come back and look for a new roommate.

Josefina is a tad soft about some things and remembers bad experiences for a long time. When I feed her, I put the food down and leave the room entirely (she wont eat if someone is in the room, she's weird I know), so something like this might put her off food for a long long time and give me serious training issues.

So yeah, I would be pissed.
 

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It terrifies me that your roommate reproduced.

Since the kid is 13, if he still didn't get it after this I would walk over to him while he's eating his meals, lean really close and start grubbing through his food with your bare hands while he's eating.
HAHA, I have actually dont a version of this to show people why dogs can be food aggressive, they didnt know what I was doing (because I did it without telling them) and they got all defensive and were all like "Hey ...!" I was like, "See? thats how a dog feels when you do it." Though I didnt use my bare hands, I used a fork and we knew each other LOL.

But seriously, at dinner DO IT and when they are like "What the hell are you doing?!" Explain to them that they like their respect when they are eating, right? so do dogs.

I am also seething while reading this, the nerve! :wall:
 

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I wouldn't do any sort of this is what it feels like to the kid... that seems like a good way to end up homeless with some assault or what have you charges. You just never know with people and it sounds like this situation is already tense.

Clearly the dog is now scared and stressed by the kid. Not actually seeing the situation, I would be doing everything in my power to keep my dog from ever having to interact with the kid and never leaving them unsupervised or the possibility of unsupervised (by you) interaction. And I'd be saving up to move ASAP.

Sorry you are in that situation, that really blows. At least he still likes other kids!
 

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