Wow I hate pet stores that sell puppies!

[lpollockandrsn]

I absolutely HATE to see ignorant people standing around and talking to pet store employees about purchasing the puppies in the pet store! Darn them!
I feel terrible for the little puppies there, it isn't their fault but how awful it all is. A vicious cylce from puppy mills, to cheesy pet stores to ignorant people and back again!
They think that because their little tag says what state they come from that they aren't puppy mill puppies! Good God, what reputable breeder in their right mind would ever sell a puppy to a pet store? NONE! Don't people know that by now?
Sorry, just venting! Any thoughts are encouraged!

 

[SummerRiot]

We are all behind you on this one I think

I can stand pet stores who sell non-rescue dogs.. VERY VERY bad! There is a saying that goes by this -

"Whenever a pet store puppy is bought, a shelter puppy is killed"

 

[bubbatd]

I agree !!! At least the only dogs available at our Petsmart are when each group bring in their rescue dogs for adoption. Our Golden group goes in once a month for 4 hours with available Goldens. You can't get your dog at this point, but can fill out adoption forms, or if you have one aready on file, you can reguest a consideration of a certain dog. I know other rescue groups have their day there too.

 

[jess2416]

I agree !!! At least the only dogs available at our Petsmart are when each group bring in their rescue dogs for adoption. Our Golden group goes in once a month for 4 hours with available Goldens. You can't get your dog at this point, but can fill out adoption forms, or if you have one aready on file, you can reguest a consideration of a certain dog. I know other rescue groups have their day there too.

That is how our Petsmart is. .

 

[Mordy]

It's so sad. I drove past a pet store here in L.A. the other day and they had a sign out "Puppy Sale - Puppies $30".

Considering that pet store puppies usually are totally overpriced, I bet they were trying to get rid of some dogs that were getting too "old" and weren't as cute anymore - or sick and requiring care.

 

[PixieSticksandTricks]

We are all behind you on this one I think

I can stand pet stores who sell non-rescue dogs.. VERY VERY bad! There is a saying that goes by this -

"Whenever a pet store puppy is bought, a shelter puppy is killed"

Yeah but lets also think about the puppies that get too old to stay in the pet stores. They are usually dumped on shelters and then they become those shelter puppies that die every time a pet store puppy is sold

Sort of a double edged sword huh?

Not that I would ever buy a pet store puppy but still it is something to think about.

 

[Mordy]

Yeah but lets also think about the puppies that get too old to stay in the pet stores. They are usually dumped on shelters and then they become those shelter puppies that die every time a pet store puppy is sold

Sort of a double edged sword huh?

Not that I would ever buy a pet store puppy but still it is something to think about.

One big difference: if you buy a pet store puppy from a pet store, the store owner makes a profit, the puppy broker makes a profit and the puppy miller makes a profit. These peopel couldn't care less about what happens to the puppy once they have pocketed the money.

If a pet store owner has to dump puppies because they don't sell, he's not making profit and the less puppies he sells, the less he'll buy from the broker next time. If the broker sells less puppies, he'll buy less from the puppy mill operator. If the mill operator doesn't make a profit, he'll keep less "breeding stock", produce less puppies and maybe eventually turn to a business that's more profitable than mass producing poor quality dogs under horrible conditions.

So it's definitely better to adopt that puppy from the pound rather than contributing to the profit of the pet store owner and everyone else down the line in this despicable business.

 

[PixieSticksandTricks]

One big difference: if you buy a pet store puppy from a pet store, the store owner makes a profit, the puppy broker makes a profit and the puppy miller makes a profit. These peopel couldn't care less about what happens to the puppy once they have pocketed the money.

If a pet store owner has to dump puppies because they don't sell, he's not making profit and the less puppies he sells, the less he'll buy from the broker next time. If the broker sells less puppies, he'll buy less from the puppy mill operator. If the mill operator doesn't make a profit, he'll keep less "breeding stock", produce less puppies and maybe eventually turn to a business that's more profitable than mass producing poor quality dogs under horrible conditions.

So it's definitely better to adopt that puppy from the pound rather than contributing to the profit of the pet store owner and everyone else down the line in this despicable business.

Oh I agree I just also noticed that either way theres a possiblity of a puppy losing its life for anouther one of mans stupid reasons.

 

[bubbatd]

Good point Mordy !!! It's supply and demand . Out of curiousity I asked one of our pet stores years ago where they got their pups. Of course they said " breeders " .... I said I was a breeder , how would that work. They said they would buy my pups at 1/2 I was asking and would price them at the 75 % mark up !!! So what they basically are doing are getting double what they paid then adding another 25% for overhead etc. So folks, you get pups from breeders who don't give a ****, from cages in pet stores who don't give a **** !! NEVER buy from a pet store !!!!

 

[Molly_Moppet]

What about accidental litters though? ones that would normally be drowned or dumped? Don't know about everywhere else, but most of the pet stores here (Tas, Australia) only have crossbred pups, bought from people off the street. They don't market these as designer dogs, just as crosses. My current dog is one of these pups, she's the best i've ever owned. Over here, you have to pay to put a dog into the RSPCA. Most people don't bother.

 

[bonster]

We have petshops here that sell puppies from little cages or perpex boxes.
Don't spend a penny there - not even for a lead or toy!!! I won't - on principle.
Go to the vets, a charity or specialist for your supplies...

 

[vanillasugar]

You guys are great

I work at a natural pet care shop and we do NOT sell animals (It's just not right! We support rescue, not puppy mills!). But you would be amazed how often I get looked at like I'm an idiot when people find out we don't sell pets! Kinda "What GOOD are you to me then!?"

People come in pretty much daily and ask if we sell puppies (or kittens) or if we know somewhere to get some. I ALWAYS point them in the direction of the shelter. Especially when "baby season" is drawing near and the shelter will be overrun with them!

Some people listen, but most give me some snide comments about how they don't want a *shelter* dog

 

[MyDogsLoveMe]

Dont bite my head off but Izzy B is a petstore pup . I paid $600 for her. Now yes I could of went to a shelter or the humane society but I chose not to. I wanted a siberiean and here in Utah there wansnt any. There were no lures or tricks applyed to get me to buy her, I had been in there a few other times (this is where I got one of my rabbits) to get other supplies and fell in love with her. I understand the reasons people may have on pet stores but what about the pets????? You may be liing the pockets of the breeders but you are also giving a home to a wonderful pup.. Just wanted to add in my 2 cents worth

 

[Fran27]

By buying a dog from a petstore you're just encouraging puppy mills to make more! For every puppy you buy, another one is born the same way! So you may have 'saved' one, but you caused another to be born in the same conditions, and he will probably not be as lucky. Without mentionning that 8 more people thinking the same way will make a puppy mill produce another whole litter, often at the expenses of the females that are bred over and over again at every heat. You want a particular breed? Get it from a good breeder. Petstore puppies are not even conform to the breed standard anyway.

I can understand that people make the mistake to buy their dogs from there once, but when they should know better but do it anyway, I think they just really don't care about the poor dogs that are kept in horrible conditions in puppy mills.

 

[MyDogsLoveMe]

Fran I expected a windfall, wont lie to you all. But then again didnt know about byb's until this forum. As I do understand about supporting bybs I also look at it as bringing home a new member for my family. Izzy came with a onslaught of shots, health checks, her ACA papers, microchipped. There was alot of info that I received when I purchased her. I am not sorry even though I may have helped contribute to a BYB that I have Izzy. I will gladly take my 10 lashing now and be done with it.

 

[Molly_Moppet]

As i said before though, they're not all puppy mill pups. None of the stores where i live sell purebreds. Mine's a cross between at least three breeds. I once saw border collie afghan pups for sale.

 

[MayasMom]

Maya was a petstore puppy. She is a mutt and was $150, which is slightly more than some of the shelters around here charge. I knew better than to get a purebred from a petstore, but the only reason I really knew about was their health issues and how the stores treat them. I just thought I was saving her from a shelter. Her sister, the only dog from the litter that was not sold, did end up in a shelter. I saw her pic on petfinder and I'm sure it's her, same age, listed as a beagle mix and looks just like her. After joining this site and learning more I would never get another dog from a petstore. I wouldnt' change things for the world now, I love her more than anything. But it is a one time mistake that will never be repeated. Chris fell in love with her and even though I kept saying no, I gave in. I told him we could not afford the pet deposit at our apartment complex as it was $550. When he looked at the website it said $250, but I told him it just hadn't been updated, I had asked recently what it was. So knowing full well what the deposit was I told him if it was $250 he could get her. I knew he would stop asking when he found out it was really $550, because we could not afford that. When he called, without even asking for a break, the property manager told him $250, since I had lived her a year and a half he waived the other $300. I feel like we were meant to have this dog, regardless of how we got her. I definitely plan on adopting shelter dogs in the future. When I tell people where I got her, I also make sure to tell them that I would not have if I knew what I knew now and then explain what I mean by that. Hopefully in that way I'm may change at least one persons mind who may be considering doing the same thing.

 

[Fran27]

Fran I expected a windfall, wont lie to you all. But then again didnt know about byb's until this forum. As I do understand about supporting bybs I also look at it as bringing home a new member for my family. Izzy came with a onslaught of shots, health checks, her ACA papers, microchipped. There was alot of info that I received when I purchased her. I am not sorry even though I may have helped contribute to a BYB that I have Izzy. I will gladly take my 10 lashing now and be done with it.

As I said, I'm fine when people buy a dog there without knowing better. I did too, even though it wasn't technically a petstore (he came from a BYB), and I don't have any regret because I love Boris, but I know better now and I won't do the same mistake again... Yeah, I considered a petstore puppy also at the time, even though I knew they came from puppy mills, I just didn't quite realize the conditions in which dogs are kept there... I guess I've grown up some now because I would never get a dog from there again (from petstores or the place I got Boris from).

Three things though - ACA papers mean *nothing*, it's just the puppy mill registry, it doesn't guarantee at all that you have a healthy puppy that corresponds to the breed standard ; the vet check doesn't mean anything at all as lots of puppies are still incubating a disease when they go through that vet check, and they can't check for genetic problems etc ; and back yard breeders are totally different from puppy mills - most of the puppies in petstores come from puppy mills, not BYBs. If you don't know the difference, please read this and this. BYBs are bad, but puppy mills are even worse.

Molly, I wasn't talking about you - around here all petstores sell puppy mills puppies for $600 to $2000 (the last one was a supposedly rare brown newfoundland ).

 

[stevinski]

btw here in jersey not a single pet store has any puppies or kittens in it,
i have a question though, say a really ugly pup comes in (hard to get ugly pups but its just for the question) or say a litter of ugly pups or just any litter, now lets say that the pet store hasnt had much business and the puppies havent sold, wat happens when the puppies are like at their sub-adult stage or near adult hood, what do the pet stores do with them when they grow up.
do they sell adult dogs?

 

[Brattina88]

at the pet stores here if the puppies don't sell and they are getting ridiculously old they lower the prices, make big signs saying *sale!* or *Specail!* or *this is as big as I get!* If nothing still they'll throw in toys, food, dog bowls, crates... I've never seen that not work