Why I Own A Gun (This is GOOD!)

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Why I own a Gun

My old grandpa said to me
'Son, there comes a time in every man's life
when he stops bustin' knuckles and starts bustin' caps and

usually it's when he becomes too old
to take an ass whoopin.'

I don't own a gun to kill people.
I own a gun to keep from being killed.

I don't carry a gun to scare people.
I carry a gun because sometimes this world can be a scary place.

I don't own a gun because I'm paranoid.
I own a gun because there are real threats in the world..

I don't own a gun because I'm evil.
I own a gun because I have lived long enough to see the evil in the world.

I don't own a gun because I hate the government.
I own a gun because I understand the limitations of government..

I don't carry a gun because I'm angry.
I carry a gun so that I don't have to spend the rest of my life hating myself for failing to be prepared.

I don't carry a gun because I want to shoot someone.
I carry a gun because I want to die at a ripe old age in my bed, and not on a sidewalk somewhere tomorrow afternoon.

I don't carry a gun because I'm a cowboy.
I carry a gun because, when I die and go to heaven,
I want to be a cowboy.

I don't own a gun to make me feel like a man.
I own a gun because men know how to take care
of themselves and the ones they love.

I don't carry a gun because I feel inadequate.
I carry a gun because unarmed and
facing three armed thugs, I am inadequate.

I don't carry a gun because I love it.
I carry a gun because I love life and
the people who make it meaningful to me.

Police protection is an oxymoron.

Free citizens must protect themselves.

Police do not protect you from crime,
they usually just investigate the crime
after it happens and
then call someone in to clean up the mess.

Personally, I carry a gun because I'm too young to die and too old to take an ass whoopin'.....author unknown (but obviously brilliant)

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A LITTLE GUN HISTORY

In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. >From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents,
unable to defend themselves,
were rounded up and exterminated.
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In 1911, Turkey established gun control.
From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians,
unable to defend themselves,
were rounded up and exterminated.
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Germany established gun control in 1938
and from 1939 to 1945,
a total of 13 million Jews and others
who were unable to defend themselves
were rounded up and exterminated.
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China established gun control in 1935.
From 1948 to 1952,
20 million political dissidents,
unable to defend themselves,
were rounded up and exterminated
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Guatemala established gun control in 1964.
From 1964 to 1981,
100,000 Mayan Indians,
unable to defend themselves,
were rounded up and exterminated.
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Uganda established gun control in 1970.
From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians,
unable to defend themselves,
were rounded up and exterminated.
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Cambodia established gun control in 1956.
From 1975 to 1977, one million educated people, unable to defend themselves,
were rounded up and exterminated.
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Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: 56 million.

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You won't see this data on the US evening news, or hear politicians disseminating this information.

Guns in the hands of honest citizens
save lives and property and,
yes, gun-control laws adversely affect
only the law-abiding citizens.

Take note my fellow Americans, before it's too late!

The next time someone talks in favor of gun control, please remind them of this history lesson.

With guns, we are 'citizens'.
Without them, we are 'subjects'.

During WWII the Japanese decided not to invade America because they knew most Americans were ARMED!

If you value your freedom, please spread this anti gun-control message to all of your friends.


The purpose of fighting is to win.

There is no possible victory in defense.

The sword is more important than the shield, and
skill is more important than either.

The final weapon is the brain.

All else is supplemental.


SWITZERLAND ISSUES EVERY HOUSEHOLD A GUN!

SWITZERLAND'S GOVERNMENT TRAINS EVERY ADULT THEY ISSUE A RIFLE.

SWITZERLAND HAS THE LOWEST GUN RELATED CRIME RATE OF ANY CIVILIZED COUNTRY
IN THE WORLD!!

I'm a firm believer in the 2nd Amendment!

If you are too, please forward.
 
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The title should be "Why I own Guns (This is GOOD)" :D

I wish we had gun laws like in Arizona or Vermont. :eek:
 

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I think it's backwards though... if guns were not as easy to get, it's less likely that a mentally unstable person would have access to one... other than that I don't really care one way or another, I just know I would not feel safe if someone had a gun and didn't know how to use it, lol.

The problem really is that yeah, if it's the case in Switzerland, that would work great, and better than no guns, but when only a minority of people have them like here, it can get ugly.

But maybe I'm not as paranoid as that dude in that text.
 

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I doubt it's the minority of people that have guns here in the states...just a hunch. Even my uncle who's as liberal as all get out owns a gun.

if guns were not as easy to get, it's less likely that a mentally unstable person would have access to one...
That's all well and good but that's like saying "if carcinogens weren't as prevalent in the environment, not as many people would get cancer". It's common sense, but how are you going to effectively control it? Take guns away from those that have them now in the interest of avoiding the occasional relatively rare circumstance and you just create victims.



other than that I don't really care one way or another, I just know I would not feel safe if someone had a gun and didn't know how to use it, lol.
Which is why it's imperative that we stop trying to hide guns and start educating people instead.
 

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on a side tangent states w/ no minimum age to hunt have fewer accidental shootings while hunting than states that have minimum age requirements. apparently because the kids start seeing bambi before they can walk and get to shoot before they start school, they are less likely to get buck fever & shoot a person they thought was a deer.
so i would tend to agree w/ GO that education & access are the way to go.
 

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I agree with GO.

And if people don't have guns, it is by their CHOICE. That's the whole point of "the land of the free" Right? We get the choice whether or not we own or carry firearms.
 
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If guns don't kill people, people kill people...

Then is it also true that toasters don't toast toast, toast toast toast?

I'm sorry. But that made me laugh and idk why.
 

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I think it's backwards though... if guns were not as easy to get, it's less likely that a mentally unstable person would have access to one... other than that I don't really care one way or another, I just know I would not feel safe if someone had a gun and didn't know how to use it, lol.

The problem really is that yeah, if it's the case in Switzerland, that would work great, and better than no guns, but when only a minority of people have them like here, it can get ugly.

But maybe I'm not as paranoid as that dude in that text.
You do know that guns can be made pretty easily. There is always access to guns no matter what the laws say. I would prefer that the good guys can have them. Just because a few people dont ignore history and world events doesnt make them paranoid.
 

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It may be, but there are still a lot of crazy people who wouldn't necessarily have a gun if it wasn't so easy to get them. Heck, even people with the best intentions, accidents happen... it's just that, as a rule, I really don't trust people to use their best judgment about when to shoot the thing. Too many paranoid people out there who would mistake my kid or my dog for a burglar at night.

But as I said again, I don't think that everyone is out to get me either, the OP post just seems overly paranoid to me... we don't all live in the Bronx.
 

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I think what sometimes irks me is that people, DUMB people have 50+ guns in their house and don't think before they act.

The "shoot first, ask later" policy some gun enthusiasts seem to have scares me. As in "I saw someone walk over my property late at night and thought he was going to rob me so I shot him". But I guess that's a culture clash. And I am okay with it :)
 

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we don't all live in the Bronx.
So are you saying only the people who live in 'dangerous areas' should have guns? Or wait for your town to turn dangerous before you arm yourself?

My current town has a population of around 30,000. We have crime/criminals here as well. I wouldn't compare this town to the Bronx, but there are rapes, burglaries, homicides, etc, and one case stands out strongly in my mind from a few years back. A 20 year old man (Kristopher Gliva) stole a step ladder from a neighboring garage, used it to climb up to a window, sliced the screen, and pulled an EIGHT YEAR OLD GIRL right out of her bedroom window. He duct taped her mouth, removed her jammies, and assaulted her. Do you know what sentence he received? 14 years. 14 freaking years in prison. I know this little girl, my kids have gone to school with her, I've worked with her at our elementary..........her life (and her parents life) will never be the same. Kristopher Gliva deserved that girl's father to put a bullet in his head, plain and simple. I wish he had've.

I say if more criminals know they can have their head blown off for entering your home, perhaps they'll stay the hell out ;)
 

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The accidents are the rare exception. The "crazies" WILL get guns or knives or poison or a blunt object. Only the law abiding citizens would be unarmed if it weren't for the 2nd amendment. It is apparent that where guns are prevelent in the hands of law abiding citizens, there is less crime. It is a fact, if you look at the O.P, for one, that in countries where guns are owned by the citizens they are protected against tryrany and slaughter from their government. It is not being paranoid to fear governments...unless you ignore history...our own history even....where guns in the hands of ordinary citizens made America... be America, the land of the free.



25 years murder-free in 'Gun Town USA'

VIRGINIA TECH MASSACRE

25 years murder-free
in 'Gun Town USA'
Crime rate plummeted after law
required firearms for residents

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Posted: April 19, 2007
1:52 pm Eastern

© 2010 WorldNetDaily.com

Kennesaw, Ga., City Hall

As the nation debates whether more guns or fewer can prevent tragedies like the Virginia Tech Massacre, a notable anniversary passed last month in a Georgia town that witnessed a dramatic plunge in crime and violence after mandating residents to own firearms.

In March 1982, 25 years ago, the small town of Kennesaw – responding to a handgun ban in Morton Grove, Ill. – unanimously passed an ordinance requiring each head of household to own and maintain a gun. Since then, despite dire predictions of "Wild West" showdowns and increased violence and accidents, not a single resident has been involved in a fatal shooting – as a victim, attacker or defender.

The crime rate initially plummeted for several years after the passage of the ordinance, with the 2005 per capita crime rate actually significantly lower than it was in 1981, the year before passage of the law.

Prior to enactment of the law, Kennesaw had a population of just 5,242 but a crime rate significantly higher (4,332 per 100,000) than the national average (3,899 per 100,000). The latest statistics available – for the year 2005 – show the rate at 2,027 per 100,000. Meanwhile, the population has skyrocketed to 28,189.
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It is commonly hypothesized that much criminal violence, especially homicide, occurs simply because the means of lethal violence (firearms) are readily at hand, and, thus, that much homicide would not occur were firearms generally less available. There is no persuasive evidence that supports this view.23

The intervening years have only fortified that conclusion.
(the article...informative)

Do Guns Cause Crime?


Coop...that is the saddest story. How devestating. I wish the Dad had had a gun and had been aware of what was happening to his little girl. I wish he would have blown the bustard's brains out. Bustards like that would think twice before entering a house when they are certain everyone has guns. I live in a virtual crime free place. Everyone has guns and everyone knows it.
 

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IMO, the only problem with "guns" is being able to own one without knowing any kind of safety. THAT is dangerous, not the gun itself.

When I bought my rifle, I walked into the store, picked one, they ran a quick background check, and out I went. I'm filing for my pistol permit now, it's a more indepth process than a rifle, but all it is a more intensive background check... again, no safety.

I have no problems with running background checks on people before allowing them a gun. But, I DO think that you should have to take a saftey course similiar to the hunting safety courses before you can buy a gun. Obviously, you will not learn everything, and obviously some people probably wont need it if they grew up in a gun/hunting family... but I thinking knowing the mechanics of a gun and just being told simple stupid safety things can probably help prevent a lot of "accidents."

Passing laws to limit things only ever hurts the people who abide by them, and those are rarely the people who the laws were set up to act against.
 

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I have no problems with running background checks on people before allowing them a gun. But, I DO think that you should have to take a saftey course similiar to the hunting safety courses before you can buy a gun. Obviously, you will not learn everything, and obviously some people probably wont need it if they grew up in a gun/hunting family... but I thinking knowing the mechanics of a gun and just being told simple stupid safety things can probably help prevent a lot of "accidents."

I agree with you Xpaeanx, I think taking a course is very important. My brother and dad just got their gun lisence and had to take a couple week course. They did not seem to mind even though they both knew how to handle, shoot, and knew a gun inside and out. A refresher will not kill you.

I find though there are alot of perenoid people out there.

Last fall my brother was in the middle of our field. Its 220 acres. Shooting at targets. Someone driving by saw his shooting in our field called the cops on us.

We had an RCMP show up at our place saying he got a complaint about shooting. Yah well... sorry we are shooting on our private property in the middle of 220 acres with a shot gun that is registered.

And the cop did not even know the rules and laws on shooting gun and what guns are legal to shoot and which ones are not.

We were kinnda baffled that someone would complain about someone shooting a gun in the middle of the country and there is a gun range about 2 miles from our place so I dont think it was the noise.:)
 
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And the cop did not even know the rules and laws on shooting gun and what guns are legal to shoot and which ones are not.
This is why it drives me nuts whenever someone says a cop told them what the law is.

They DON'T KNOW. All they know is the parameters of what they're told to act upon.

By other cops who also don't know the laws.

It's also the reason cases get thrown out on "technicalities." :rolleyes:
 

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This is why it drives me nuts whenever someone says a cop told them what the law is.

They DON'T KNOW. All they know is the parameters of what they're told to act upon.

By other cops who also don't know the laws.

It's also the reason cases get thrown out on "technicalities." :rolleyes:
Yah we found it rather annoying, especially my dad. Like when my dad and brother decided to get their gun lisence they looked into the laws and what guns are legal and which ones are not.

Like mu dads 3 odd 6 (I think thats what is called) Is not legal to shoot because it has such a long range.
 

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hayley
it's 30/06 (old US military round, .30 caliber adopted in 1906). it's pronounced 30 awt 6.

since the USA bases it's legal system in english common law & since no legal definition of militia has EVER been legislated in the USA, the only LEGAL definition of militia in the USA goes back to the 13th century (i think Charles II) when the kings laws defined it as ALL able bodied men 16-60 w/ THEIR PERSONALY OWNED WEAPONS (IE NOT PROVIDED BY THE GOVT). it is therefore necessary for a well regulated militia to be ABLE to purchase weapons suitable to the defense of the nation.
 

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I think we should just put major funding into inventing a crazy person detector!!

lol scale from

1.. normal sane person

to..

10.. Would shoot up a starbucks because its too crowded in the morning
 

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