White Boxers
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For Boxers white is not only a fault, it is unhealthy. When you see white boxers it can mean the line is being bred to close and need outcrossing. A white boxer is genetically unheathly and are normally cursed with many problems, including skin, allergies etc. Years ago breeders used to "hide" these mistakes by leaving the white pups to die, a white boxer pup gave a bad mark against a kennel name...so, a breeder would not sell them even as a pet quality as it may come back to haunt them. Now, it's scary that some people are seeing them as unique or rare
I was just talking about "normal" brown eyed white coated Boxers . I know so many breeders who strive against breeding any white boxers due to health issues. I also know of some big hearted people who have either rescued a white boxer, or bought one (being told by an unethical breeder that white boxers are "rare" )...they all have a something in common...skin problems, allergies, suppressed immune system, auto immune disorders etc. etc. One girl I know has a list of thousands of items that her white boxer cannot tolerate, it's sad.
. I know so many breeders who strive against breeding any white boxers due to health issues. I also know of some big hearted people who have either rescued a white boxer, or bought one (being told by an unethical breeder that white boxers are "rare" )...they all have a something in common...skin problems, allergies, suppressed immune system, auto immune disorders etc. etc. One girl I know has a list of thousands of items that her white boxer cannot tolerate, it's sad.- Joined
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From what I have learnt you cant get an albino boxer they just have a low pigmentation, i think its wrong to breed them but I don't think they should be killed either, I know someone that has bred one and they don't think they have done anything wrong I just cant get them to see it, they also said that boxers started out white? I asked them to show where they got this information and they haven't replied!
I just cant get them to see it, they also said that boxers started out white? I asked them to show where they got this information and they haven't replied!
Athebeau said:
For Boxers white is not only a fault, it is unhealthy. When you see white boxers it can mean the line is being bred to close and need outcrossing. A white boxer is genetically unheathly and are normally cursed with many problems, including skin, allergies etc. Years ago breeders used to "hide" these mistakes by leaving the white pups to die, a white boxer pup gave a bad mark against a kennel name...so, a breeder would not sell them even as a pet quality as it may come back to haunt them. Now, it's scary that some people are seeing them as unique or rare
totally disagree sorry to say
but 2 perfectly healthy RED boxers can produce white pups even if they are not related at all
Here's a site that in their opinion bust myths about White Boxers, it's not long so check it out and see what you think!
http://www.boxerrescue.com/whiteboxer.htm
http://www.boxerrescue.com/whiteboxer.htm
Well, I hope for all of you who want a white boxer in the future don't end up with the heartache and immune problems that every one I know that has one has gone through.
I would say this is even worse than designer dog breeds such as doodles. It makes me wonder why when these dogs are most times genetically inferior are so sought after. But, as long as they are recognized by a kennel club, then that makes it alright.
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Twilight, it's a little difficult to have a purebred without inbreeding. When you close the stud book on a small population of dogs, you have no choice but to inbred/linebreed. In order to create most breeds and thier standard conformation they had to inbred to develop the breed. This is why it's so difficult to breed purebreds, theres not a whole lot of genetic diversity and genetic problems are so common.
I would say this is even worse than designer dog breeds such as doodles. It makes me wonder why when these dogs are most times genetically inferior are so sought after. But, as long as they are recognized by a kennel club, then that makes it alright.
Quote by Twilight
Twilight, it's a little difficult to have a purebred without inbreeding. When you close the stud book on a small population of dogs, you have no choice but to inbred/linebreed. In order to create most breeds and thier standard conformation they had to inbred to develop the breed. This is why it's so difficult to breed purebreds, theres not a whole lot of genetic diversity and genetic problems are so common.
Athebeau said:
For Boxers white is not only a fault, it is unhealthy. When you see white boxers it can mean the line is being bred to close and need outcrossing. A white boxer is genetically unheathly and are normally cursed with many problems, including skin, allergies etc. Years ago breeders used to "hide" these mistakes by leaving the white pups to die, a white boxer pup gave a bad mark against a kennel name...so, a breeder would not sell them even as a pet quality as it may come back to haunt them. Now, it's scary that some people are seeing them as unique or rare
Gallien Jacks said:
From what I have learnt you cant get an albino boxer they just have a low pigmentation, i think its wrong to breed them but I don't think they should be killed either, I know someone that has bred one and they don't think they have done anything wrong I just cant get them to see it, they also said that boxers started out white? I asked them to show where they got this information and they haven't replied!
I just cant get them to see it, they also said that boxers started out white? I asked them to show where they got this information and they haven't replied!
Sorry this thread is little old! I did reply so did other members of the forum!!!
White boxers are not more sickly and they did start out white. White Boxers are not albino, not rare, just a normal Boxer that is white. Go look up white Boxer History on the net an educate yourselves.
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Anyone breeding boxers, no matter how responsible, can end up with white puppies in their whelping box.
What people DO with these white puppies determines what type of breeder they are.
Responsible breeders who care about their breed, and steward it for the future, will require the spay/neuter of any white puppies, and any puppies who are more than 30% white, as this is not allowed according to the breed standard.
People who do not require the S/N of white boxer puppies, or puppies who have excessive white, do not care about the future or the health of the breed.
People who breed boxers who are more than 30% white are not stewarding their breed, and are ignoring the breed standard.
So what if they started out white. Every breed standard world wide frowns upon boxers that are more than 30% white, including the FCI standard, which is the standard of Germany, the country of origin.
Rottweilers started out a variety of colors too. That is simply an excuse for pups for bucks greed breeders to breed dogs who do not meet the breed standard who should not be bred.
What people DO with these white puppies determines what type of breeder they are.
Responsible breeders who care about their breed, and steward it for the future, will require the spay/neuter of any white puppies, and any puppies who are more than 30% white, as this is not allowed according to the breed standard.
People who do not require the S/N of white boxer puppies, or puppies who have excessive white, do not care about the future or the health of the breed.
People who breed boxers who are more than 30% white are not stewarding their breed, and are ignoring the breed standard.
So what if they started out white. Every breed standard world wide frowns upon boxers that are more than 30% white, including the FCI standard, which is the standard of Germany, the country of origin.
Rottweilers started out a variety of colors too. That is simply an excuse for pups for bucks greed breeders to breed dogs who do not meet the breed standard who should not be bred.
I have heard of the "white boxers have problems" myth before.
I dont know much about the Boxer breed but I know that a white pup can be generated from any two partners. I have met three white boxers recently and I had asked each owner if they have any medical problems. Only one out of the three have food allergies and tend to get "colds" in the winter time.
Also, one of the three also had a brown spot about an apple size on his head.. I assume that one spot sort of breaks the myth of an "all white" boxer though eh??
I dont know much about the Boxer breed but I know that a white pup can be generated from any two partners. I have met three white boxers recently and I had asked each owner if they have any medical problems. Only one out of the three have food allergies and tend to get "colds" in the winter time.
Also, one of the three also had a brown spot about an apple size on his head.. I assume that one spot sort of breaks the myth of an "all white" boxer though eh??
O so now im greedy and only wanna make money and dont care about the Boxer breed! Hmmm..... sorry but i dont think im gonna make lots of money i will loose money. I did not breed my white boxer to get more whites. I am expecting beautiful show quality puppies and if i get 2 whites that great they will go to pet homes only.
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