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I have this dilemma... I know what I am going to do about it, but was wondering what you guys would do in this situation. It's kind of a long story.... I'll try and keep it to the point.

Most of you know I used to work on the pediatric and obstetrics floor and transferred into the NICU over a year ago. I'm still on the same floor as peds and OB just down the hallway about 50 feet.

So, I still see all my co workers I used to work with on peds and OB all the time. Especially if I'm working newborn and running babies out to their mommas and having to walk up the halls.

We have a lot of great nurses that I work with. But for all the great ones you wind up having a not so great one. There is this one nurse who on a personal level I can tolerate her to some degree. She's very scattered and you can't follow any of her conversations because they bounce all over the place.. but she's been pretty harmless.

I just always knew that if there was a crisis and someone was coding on the floor she'd run and hide. I've worked with her for almost 6 years now. I've noticed over the past few years her behavior has been changing.. and not for the good.

She constantly brings her personal problems to work with her. She spends hours during the shift on personal calls with her husband and kids. Her husband is a drug addict and cheating on her. She is aware of it and spends much of her time chasing after him and finding out who he's sleeping with and doing drugs with.

I've heard her arguing with her family time and time again right there on the phone at the nurses station. She'll start cussing at them and raising her voice and being really hateful. She NEVER looks up the hallways to see if anyone is coming. And two of the hallways that intersect with the nurses station are out of view, so you wouldn't know anyone was walking up them until they got to the nurses station. And in a few of the rooms closest to the nurses station you can hear when people are laughing and talking loudly without even having the door open.

We've all turned our heads and looked the other way hoping it was just a few isolated events and gave her the benefit of the doubt that she was having a bad night or few nights.

Around 3am she'd always go into what we called her "sleepy phase" and she'd fall asleep charting. She had charted some off the wall stuff before that had nothing to do with the patient she was charting about. These are legal document.... she is liable for what she charts... not to mention it could effect the outcome of that patients care.

Well, lately she's gotten so bad that when she's not fighting with her family on the phone or talking in circles... she will fall asleep AT WORK for hours at a time. She was literally snoring at the nurses station last night. Then she finally got up and the girls thought she was going to check on her patients but she went into the lounge and turned the heat up, turned out the lights and curled up on the couch and went to sleep :yikes:

Her patients deserve to get good nursing care. She could have had a patient bleeding out and she'd never know it. She's a danger to have working on the floor. She is so off the wall latel that you'd swear she was on drugs. And it's not fair for her co workers to have to always have to pick up her slack.

I had no idea it was this bad until this morning when I questioned one of the OB nurses. I knew she cat napped and the other stuff..... but she's done that for as long as I've ever known her and got away with it.

I urged the girls to report this because covering up for her is not helping the patients or her. Everyone seems to be apprehensive to report this and they're dragging their heels about it hoping she'll snap out of this behavior. But it's progressively gotten worse.. she's not going to snap out of it. Someone needs to stop this before someone gets hurt or worse.

So, I've decided to stay up this morning and wait for our boss to arrive at work and let her know what's going on. I can certainly tell her what I have witnessed myself. And I can tell her what I've heard from others but that she will have to ask them personally to verify.

This just makes me sooooo mad. I can't believe everyone has been covering this up for so long. I'm not someone that runs to management and tattle on my fellow co workers.... but when patients are being neglected or their lives being put in danger... something needs to be done about it.. it's not right.

So, I was just wondering if you guys would do the same thing or if you think I'm butting my nose in where it doesn't belong since I don't technically work that floor anymore. I just can't turn my head the other way on this. It's wrong... so wrong.
 

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Seems you have answered your own question. I would tell the boss, she is working in a life or death situation and not pulling her weight.
 

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Yeah...if this was a car wash or McDonald's, then who cares, right? But as you pointed out, she is a nurse at a hospital and people's lives and well-being are under her care. I'm actually surprised that she's been allowed to go about her ways as long as it sounds like she has been, but I know how hard it can be to report a co-worker.

You are doing the right thing, and that woman has no one to blame but herself if she gets canned on the spot. She should divorce her husband and get some counceling at the same time for all the rest of her problems.
 

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Oh, I'm DEFINATELY telling my boss... there was no question about it for me. I was just wondering if you guys would have done the same thing. Even if you told me you wouldn't have... I'm still telling her.
 

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Just a question...did you ever talk to her directly about it?
People have tried. She is so sporatic with her moods. She blames it all on the "crack meth head whores" that chase after her husband. You can't reason with her. She doesn't see a problem. And when you try and discuss anything of substance with her she gets off on a tangent about something completely unrelated.

She was giving report one time on the recorded phone line that we tape report on and she fell asleep mid sentence and when she woke up a few seconds later... she was talking about her deceased grandmother. Can you imagine being the next shift and listening to a report like that??

I feel bad for her.. but enough is enough. She needs to be accountable for her behavior and actions. I just hope she can get some help and I wished she'd leave her loser of a husband and start over.
 

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I was just asking...If I was in that situation I'd try to straighten her out before going up the chain of command....but if people have tried...you tried your best.

I think it is very responsible to do something about the situation with her... your patients (even probably not knowing) will be thankful!
 

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Oh God, that is scary! If she were responsible for my child :yikes: Messing up with charting, falling asleep on the job, not to mention, I'm sure she handles med doses...I shudder to think what could happen. You are doing the right thing. I'm sorry, I know it's hard to report someone, but I would do exactly that if I were in your shoes.

We have a cousin who lost a niece a few months ago. She was two years old, going in for a (from what I understand) "minor" surgery to unclog a tear duct. She died. Hope just told me the other day that the little girl had ten times the amount fentanol required for her....:(

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Yah I'd probably get someone on that. What if she was asleep and some patient was buzzing on their little buzzer because their feeding tube fell out or something?
 

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absolutely shocking that nobody else has reported her. normally I'd say no...it's not your department or your place. BUT in this instance, it's wayyy out of control. so sad for her...sounds like she needs trouble at work like a hole in her head, but she still needs to straighten up. it's beyond comprehension she falls asleep with her responsibility, but I have to admit that I couldn't put up with anyone falling asleep at work....not even at Walmart.
 

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She should be reported ....but too bad is isn't from someone in her unit .
 

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Yes you are doing the right thing. I am glad there are nurses that are out there like you who put your patients welfare first. We are not doctors or nurses and when we are in hospital we trust that you are diong the right thing for us.
On another note the behavior you say she has tends to make me think that she might need to be tested for drug usage. What you describe would make me suspect she needs to get help too.
 

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Yes you are doing the right thing. I am glad there are nurses that are out there like you who put your patients welfare first. We are not doctors or nurses and when we are in hospital we trust that you are diong the right thing for us.
On another note the behavior you say she has tends to make me think that she might need to be tested for drug usage. What you describe would make me suspect she needs to get help too.

she does need a drug screen done. I'm sure they will after hearing of her behavior lately.
 

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I stayed up as long as I could this morning trying to catch my boss in the office but never got a hold of her. I left her a message telling her I needed to talk to her about something but she hasn't called me back yet.

I just woke up and checked my messages to see if she had called and she hadn't. So, I did the next best thing... I called one of my friends who just happens to be in management for our department... just not as high up as the one I was trying to get a hold of. And I told her everything that was going on.

She said she would get in touch with our big boss and fill her in. I suggested to her for them to do a random drug screen on her and she agreed it was necessary. I hope they can get to the bottom of this.
 

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definately needs to be reported...i would be horrified to hear of someone like that working around life or death situations :yikes:

however, i feel really bad for her...it seems like she has some other MAJOR issues going on...like she either needs to be checked into rehab or a psychiatric ward. I would just hope that your work could see that be done, rather than throwing her out...i have no clue how that kind of stuff works.
 

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definately needs to be reported...i would be horrified to hear of someone like that working around life or death situations :yikes:

however, i feel really bad for her...it seems like she has some other MAJOR issues going on...like she either needs to be checked into rehab or a psychiatric ward. I would just hope that your work could see that be done, rather than throwing her out...i have no clue how that kind of stuff works.
If it's drugs they will offer her rehab and have a program she has to follow in order to keep her nursing license. They will work with her rather than just firing her. But she will have to do exactly what they say or she will be in jeapardy of losing her job. I hope she is receptive and accepts the help they will offer her.
 

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People have tried. She is so sporatic with her moods. She blames it all on the "crack meth head whores" that chase after her husband. You can't reason with her. She doesn't see a problem. And when you try and discuss anything of substance with her she gets off on a tangent about something completely unrelated.

She was giving report one time on the recorded phone line that we tape report on and she fell asleep mid sentence and when she woke up a few seconds later... she was talking about her deceased grandmother. Can you imagine being the next shift and listening to a report like that??

I feel bad for her.. but enough is enough. She needs to be accountable for her behavior and actions. I just hope she can get some help and I wished she'd leave her loser of a husband and start over.
i know meth, and that sounds like she's on meth to me.
 

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