What would you do??

Mach1girl

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Considering the breed, APBT

Ok, mom is of show quality, dad is of game quality. Neither have been proven. Dad has in ADBA, mom has a certificate confirming conformation correctness, however, never been shown.

A call from a man fresh outta the ARMY, has provided years of hunting photos w/ pitbulls and hogs. Many, many kills. He hunts along side his dad in Louisiana. Owns a farm, also advertised online as being in business more years then I am old......Want to start hunting again, and wants a puppy to train.

I can only tell, at 19 days old, very little at this point. Some are shorter and stockier, and when assisted, look pretty amazing for this age, some are couch potatoe looking loafs(but lovable!!) and a few are slender, longer, etc, such as a game dog would be.

Hog hunting is dangerous, and scarey, I would NEVER participate in such a thing-HOWEVER knowing the background of the breed, a pitbull would prolly be in heaven if it got to hunt boar.

What would you do? Make your best judgment call and send him the most "game" puppy you think you may have???Or turn him away?? He has come to me because of the bloodline on the dads side.

How do you sell one of your babies to someone who may end up killing him un-intentionally???

Should I just say no???He has checked out fine.......I dont want to.
 

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No. And I think that you don't want to so an even stronger NO.
 

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NO way! The fact that you are going for a second opinion makes me think that you're second-guessing your gut instinct to say no(?) Go with your gut instinct on this one....
 

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I ask for a second opinion only because I know what the breed is for. (in real life) These dogs are not meant to be "pet"bulls, they have a purpose. They are meant to work. I am asking for a second opinion because I wanted to make sure I am not being greedy and keeping a possibly great working dog from excelling in what it was meant to do, for my own selfish reasons.They are my babies, but Id much rather see them in the show ring, then sliced open by a boar's tusk, ya know???

Thanks guys,
 

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I would be anxious to place puppies in working homes, however I am not sure about sending a Pit puppy off to hunt hogs. I know nothing about hog hunting, but it sounds quite dangerous and I personally would feel a bit uncomfortable placing a dog to do that kind of work.
On the other hand, many people place dogs to manage cattle, who can be pretty rough on a dog as well. There are risks with all working dogs, but with my breed I would rather one of my puppies go to a working home, even if it is a bit more dangerous than a strictly-show home. Working breeds love to have a job, and it makes me cringe to see Border Collie breeders placing puppies in strictly pet or show homes as opposed to working homes just because they don't want the pup to ever get hurt. Injuries do happen, but I would rather place a pup in a home with a responsible owner where it might get injured, but will be happier and busier (and with BCs, busier is better :))

If you don't feel comfortable with selling to this guy, don't do it. I don't know much about what goes on with hog hunting so I couldn't tell you what decision to make. Is it common to use dogs on these hunts? Are Pitbulls one of the more commonly used breeds?
 

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If you are having second thoughts then definately no but on the other hand lots of dogs are used for hunting and sometimes it results in an untimely death but rest assured those dogs are enjoying every minute of hunting they get. Brian actually woulnd't mind eventually training Teddy to hunt with him as TEddy will hunt anything smaller than him lol

I think Selling a dog to a hunter is no big deal since it is in their blood but if you have apprehensions then don't do it.
 

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I live in Fla, and pits hunting hogs is the only dog used for hunting hogs. So I guess, yes, the breed is often used for hog hunting. The hog hunting is supposed(SUPPOSED) to be a catch and relase process. The dogs (usually 3 on one hog or more according to size) and they are supposed to catch the hog and hold it until the hunter gets there to kill it. But too many huunters just let the dogs kill the hog. It depends on the professionalism of the hunter, and according to ll the torn up gutted hogs on our parks trails, it happens daily.Pitbull are one of the few breeds that possess the drive, and holding power to perform such tasks........But gosh, weight pull or personal protection sound so much nicer!!! That is why I am having a personal struggle with this. It is an all too common sport, and the breed excels. BUT THEY ARE MY BABIES!!! All it takes is a tusk and the dog is dead. A chance you gotta take? I dont know. He could excel beyond what I imagine, and become totally awesome, but he could die his first time out too.

I dont know, I want these dogs to have meaningful lives, as much as possible. It seems like a waste of the breed, the world doesnt need more pet bulls, it needs to bring back what they were intended to do -work(NO_NEVER FIGHT!) work.............................................................................I wont sleep tonite.
 

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I don't have a problem with hunting. If you do sell a pup to that hunter, I'm sure it would enjoy every minute of it. But then again, I come from a region where hunting with dogs is quite acceptable.

Just giving my opinion, but I think this person may be a good candidate for a pup. I'd make sure to pick out the one with the highest drive. In all honesty, I can't see a very high-drive pit bull making a suitable housepet. But in a hunting environment, it would be a perfect fit. I think it would be great for a dog to get a chance to get a chance at a working life.

Also, they now make protective gear for hog-hunting dogs. It's not as dangerous of a sport as it used to be. But ultimately, the decision is up to you.
 

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I think you have to do what's in your heart. If you don't feel good about giving a pup to that person, don't. When you give a pup to a person that you like and want to have the pup, you feel good inside and don't worry. I'm afraid that if you give a pup to someone you don't want to, you will have the pup on your mind for a long time worrying about what the future holds.
 

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it the person or the purpose you are having problems/second thoughts with?? if its person I would say no if tis the purpose well Im not against hunting so I say yes
 
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Barb04 said:
I think you have to do what's in your heart. If you don't feel good about giving a pup to that person, don't. When you give a pup to a person that you like and want to have the pup, you feel good inside and don't worry.
I agree 100%. Even though you worry about the puppies no matter what, but thats why you get plenty of info on the buyers, and keep in contact with them. If your still torn on which way to go, ask him what type of hunting he does and what type of training the puppy would go through. Get refrences!!! I don't know much about hunting , but I know in my state you have to have a hunting license so maybe the conservation department could give you information. Also see if he belongs to or has ever belong to any hunting clubs. If so get refrences to contact other members and see what they say. But Always Trust Your Instints too. If you get an uneasy feeling about him then don't sell him a puppy even if his refrences check out. Remember you are responsible for these puppies lives so never be afraid to say no if you feel the potential buyer will not make a suitable owner. Not saying this guy won't or will because I don't know. But for the puppies sake and yours do more research and get refrences. Hope this helps a little:)
 

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Go with your heart. i would not recomend a pit for boar hunting. If he is such an avid boar hunter, suggest to him a Argentine Dogo. Kinda like a pit in looks, but bred for boar hunting.
 

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