We have a very...physical....woman in my dog club. She has trained a dog to an OTCH (or two) (Goldens & Shelties), so people do look to her for advice on different issues.
She does use positive reinforcement at times. However, her Sheltie doesn't work for "fun" and isn't a confident dog, and her Golden is DA and also not very confident. Most of what I've seen her "teach" is rough handling and just plain meanness.....
For example, we had a new member. Her Sheltie, who was very obviously fearful of strangers and lacked some confidence, had a lagging problem when heeling. *Jane* thought she could help cure the lagging by the scruff-grab - basically grabbing the dog's hair at the scruff and yanking. Watching *Jane* scruff this poor, shivering dog over and over again around the ring was disgusting.
Needless to say, I stay away from *Jane.*
. Yeah great advice 