What do you think of this food?When should I move to adult...

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  1. cloudcandy

    cloudcandy Cloudcandy

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    This is what i feed Coco,I normally switch flavors every time we finish a pack,this is what she has this month:
    ngredients and analysis
    Composition: lamb meal, rice, ground whole barley, pea protein, lamb fat, whole linseed, lamb gravy, alfalfa meal, sugar beet pulp, natural seaweed, sodium chloride, omega oil supplement, chicory extract, potassium chloride, calcium carbonate, yucca extract

    Minimum levels: lamb (26%), rice (22%), barley (14%), linseed (3%), lamb gravy (2%), alfalfa (1%), seaweed (0.5%), yucca extract (0.02%), chicory extract (0.2%)

    Additives per kg: antioxidants: E306/Natural antioxidant, 150mg, Vitamins: E672/Vitamin A, 15.000 iu, E671/Vitamin D3, 2,250 iu, Trace elements: E1/iron, 40mg, E2/iodine, 2mg, E4/copper, 5mg, E5/manganese, 25mg, E6/zinc, 100mg, E8/selenium, 0.2mg

    Analytical Constituents: protein 30.0%, crude fibres 2.7%, fat content 15%, crude ash 8.3%, Vitamin E 180mg/kg, omega-3 fatty acids 1.1%, omega-6 fatty acids 1.5%

    In my local pet shop this is one of the more reasonable priced ones that caught my eye at the beginning.Recently the staff tried to persuade me to change to orijen,telling me that James Beloved is very oily. To be perfectly honest James Well Beloved is £8.99 for 2kg where as orijen is £22.95 for (I think) slightly less.This is a big jump in price,one of the reasons I am happy with beloved is I know there will never be a time where it will be hard to buy.However I am considering moving over because Coco doesn't eat alot as it is,and I would think she may eat less of this as it seems quite rich.
    I also don't feel like bringing in food from another country is that "green" since Beloved is made in the Uk.
    What do you think? Now is a good time to change as she needs to come off puppy food.
    Also I have some questions about RAW,since I don't think it would be possible for me to source meat(its to expensive for me...let alone Coco),I know of no butchers,I have a teeny freezer and yes,I don't want to handle organs :S However what is this "prepared" raw I hear of?
     
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  2. Kat09Tails

    Kat09Tails *Now with Snark*

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    dare I ask wtf lamb gravy is?

    If I am honest this would not be a food I would give as a full time forever kind of diet. There is only one protein source - also I find that with my small breed dogs their teeth go to crap on anything with beet pulp in it (it's a cheap sugar filler.)
     
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    God question?!What is lamb gravy...
    Tbh I tried to choose from the "better" options this seemed to be somewhere in between the commercial pedigree and Iams and the other high end stuff.... :confused:
     
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    katielou Slave to the Aussie

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    Options readily available in England are pretty poor and JWB is not something i would happily feed.

    If you can manage i would switch to the orijen.

    I think Applaws is probably better the JWB but not great by any means.
     
  5. annabelle's mom

    annabelle's mom YORKIE LOVER

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    This might help decide about which dog food to use

    How to grade your dog's food: Start with a grade of 100:

    1) For every listing of "by-product", subtract 10 points
    2) For every non-specific animal source ("meat" or "poultry", meat, meal or fat) reference, subtract 10 points
    3) If the food contains BHA, BHT, or ethoxyquin, subtract 10 points
    4) For every grain "mill run" or non-specific grain source, subtract 5 points
    5) If the same grain ingredient is used 2 or more times in the first five ingredients (I.e. "ground brown rice", "brewers rice", "rice flour" are all the same grain), subtract 5 points
    6) If the protein sources are not meat meal and there are less than 2 meats in the top 3 ingredients, subtract 3 points
    7) If it contains any artificial colorants, subtract 3 points
    8 ) If it contains ground corn or whole grain corn, subtract 3points
    9) If corn is listed in the top 5 ingredients, subtract 2 more points
    10) If the food contains any animal fat other than fish oil, subtract 2 points
    11) If lamb is the only animal protein source (unless your dog is allergic to other protein sources), subtract 2 points
    12) If it contains soy or soybeans, subtract 2 points
    13) If it contains wheat (unless you know that your dog is not allergic to wheat), subtract 2 points
    14) If it contains beef (unless you know that your dog is not allergic to beef), subtract 1 point
    15) If it contains salt, subtract 1 point


    Extra Credit:

    1) If any of the meat sources are organic, add 5 points
    2) If the food is endorsed by any major breed group or nutritionist, add 5 points
    3) If the food is baked not extruded, add 5 points
    4) If the food contains probiotics, add 3 points
    5) If the food contains fruit, add 3 points
    6) If the food contains vegetables (NOT corn or other grains), add 3 points
    7) If the animal sources are hormone-free and antibiotic-free, add 2 points
    8 ) If the food contains barley, add 2 points
    9) If the food contains flax seed oil (not just the seeds), add 2 points
    10) If the food contains oats or oatmeal, add 1 point
    11) If the food contains sunflower oil, add 1 point
    12) For every different specific animal protein source (other than the
    first one; count "chicken" and "chicken meal" as only one protein
    source, but "chicken" and "" as 2 different sources), add 1 point
    13) If it contains glucosamine and chondroitin, add 1 point
    14) If the vegetables have been tested for pesticides and are
    pesticide-free, add 1 point




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    Score:
    94-100+ = A 86-93 = B 78-85 = C 70-77 = D 69 and below = F
     
  6. Dizzy

    Dizzy Sit! Good dog.

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    Food options are POOR in the UK. I feed JWB, and it does us fine :) And there aren't many other options available to me right now...

    You can buy the pre-frozen raw, which I think I may move onto, but that isn't going to be until I am moved and I can fill the freezer up with whatever crap I like :p

    I think to get a decent quality food, you'll have to buy online and have it delivered... although you are darn sarf, and basically you seem to get everything you want at your fingertips down there - so maybe you'll have a pet food shop near by??
     
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    Dizzy Sit! Good dog.

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    Gravy in the UK is basically the animal juices. It's not the same as in the US.
     
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    Yh,Raw isn't an option for me yet.Meat is too expensive for me as it is let alone to be feeding Coco on it daily,also I have NO freezer space at all.There are a lot more options in the shop I go to,it's just there is such a big jump in price! JWB is £9 for a bag that last's me a month or more,then there is Origin that is £25!There's nothing in between that price range,which is why I went for JWB.

    I'm going to look online too see if I can bulk buy food etc which would maybe keep the cost down.Hopefully when I can get a job this summer I should be able to afford a higher quality food.
     
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    £9 a month is pretty good!!!! Bodhi eats about 4 times that lol
     
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    Just a point on the cost. Orijin is very high calorie and is nutrient dense. So you will likely feed less. Not enough less to make it worth the same $$ but its not likely as bad as you would think.

    25 pounds sounds not bad at all... how big a bag?
     
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    Orijen is crazy expensive here, same with Acana and TOTW. I cant justify buying it with my three large mouths. I looked at buying the largest size of Acana Prairelands for mine, and it was around $100 for 13.5kg. That wouldn't even last a month.

    Personally, we switch between JWB and Burns, they do very well on them, and its an awful lot better than what the majority of UK dogs are fed on! Arden Grange is also a reasonable choice, and Skinners Field and Trial. If she does well on JWB, there's no real reason to change unless you really want to.
     
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    Same gravy that people eat, but made from lamb instead of the usual beef or chicken...
     
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    Thanks,Coco's "breeder" sent me home with Skinners field and trial but I couldn't find that locally so I went to my local store,JWB was the only one that wasn't Iams etc.and was a half decent price.However I've considered that if the food is going to be higher quality and therefore she will eat less then it could work out ok financially.Didn't realise Natures menu did complete food,I buy their treats for Coco,will definitely look into that as I like their brand
    @Dekka I'm not sure how big their bags are tbh,just know that it is less then the JWB probably half the size.
     

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