Walmart employees fired for disarming gunman

[ACooper]

Carrie, I highly doubt those 4 people will get their jobs back. Go to Google and type in "Walmart employee fired" and watch the crazy stories that come back.......not kidding!

There's one where a WM employee was fired (and lost his case) for using MEDICAL MARIJUANA! Something that is completely legal and above board!

Another where a WM employee (elderly man of 69) was fired for defending himself against an irate customer who STRUCK him and kept trying to strike him!! There is video tape of the whole incident........the cops charged the customer but found the WM employee within his rights for fending off this young punk but that didn't stop WM from firing him

I could go on, but you get the idea...........I don't see any of these 4 WM employees gaining their job or any kind of settlement out of this.

 

[Doberluv]

Well then, Walmart sucks. Maybe with the publicity, someone else BETTER will offer them a job...maybe not in retail, but hopefully, they won't be left out in the cold.

 

[Gempress]

I'm kinda on the fence about this. I can understand the guys. They thought their lives were in danger, and acted the way they felt was best. And if they feared for their lives, I'm sure they weren't thinking: "Wait. Is this against policy?"

On the other hand, I can understand the Wal-Mart point of view. If those guys had failed in their attempt to disarm the gunman, they could have gotten a lot of people killed by their actions. And I'd bet that 99 percent of people have no real clue how to properly attack and disarm someone with relative safely. It's just flail and guess.

Six of one, half-dozen of the other. *shrug*

 

[Jules]

Well, I am glad they were able to disarm the guy. Do I think it sucks that they were fired? Yes. Do I think they have legal grounds to stand on to fight this? No. When they accepted their positions at Walmart, they accepted the policies.

Not sure what this has to do with the Wild West, though.

 

[Doberluv]

Well, I am glad they were able to disarm the guy. Do I think it sucks that they were fired? Yes. Do I think they have legal grounds to stand on to fight this? No. When they accepted their positions at Walmart, they accepted the policies.

Not sure what this has to do with the Wild West, though.

Really??? You don't? It has everything to do with the wild west....AND the revolutionary war, other wars and any other squirmish where real Americans stood up for and defended themselves and what they believed in. They fought back against those tyrants and criminals who would run hard-shod over them, robbing them of their lives and freedom. And that includes, not only whole governments, but scum bag, vicious criminals of the wild west and other eras. Back then, people took care of business and didn't succumb easily or willingly to demands of criminals.

In other words, if our American ancestors had fallen supine like sheep, like too many people now, would have them do, you and I wouldn't be here. America and the freedoms you enjoy wouldn't be here.

 

[JennSLK]

Doberluv - I know you were generalizing, but I want to point out, I am Canadian and I am against gun control. Most people from Alberta (well the west really) are against it. Luv ya though.


I worked at Walmart way back. I threw out my back there (the first time). I seen a back cracker and other medical people as therapy. I called in the one night (I was supposed to work the overnight shift on Fri night as a stocker) because my back was REALLY bad that day and they did not have "light duty" available. I told my supervisor, who used the same chiropractor as me, I was going to see him and would get her a note. I'd like to point out up until this point I had NO marks against me as a employee. I gave her the note Sat night at work. However I was accused of forging it. Why? Our Chiro wasn't open Saturdays, so I got a appointment with one who was, and THEY filled out the note instead of my regular guy. I was fired for forging the note, even though it wasn't.

Wal-Mart is one of the worst employers to work for.

 

[Jules]

Really??? You don't? It has everything to do with the wild west....AND the revolutionary war, other wars and any other squirmish where real Americans stood up for and defended themselves and what they believed in. They fought back against those tyrants and criminals who would run hard-shod over them, robbing them of their lives and freedom. And that includes, not only whole governments, but scum bag, vicious criminals of the wild west and other eras. Back then, people took care of business and didn't succumb easily or willingly to demands of criminals.

In other words, if our American ancestors had fallen supine like sheep, like too many people now, would have them do, you and I wouldn't be here. America and the freedoms you enjoy wouldn't be here.

Well, I think this is an issue of policies of an employer- not necessarily gun control. The employer has this policy because of fear of being sued. So, I'd rather attack all your "sue happy" fellows who created this atmosphere that made it necessary for companies to establish these policies.

 

[Renee750il]

Well, I think this is an issue of policies of an employer- not necessarily gun control. The employer has this policy because of fear of being sued. So, I'd rather attack all your "sue happy" fellows who created this atmosphere that made it necessary for companies to establish these policies.

You nailed it, Jules.

 

[Doberluv]

Well, I think this is an issue of policies of an employer- not necessarily gun control. The employer has this policy because of fear of being sued. So, I'd rather attack all your "sue happy" fellows who created this atmosphere that made it necessary for companies to establish these policies.

Of course, it's not about gun control. And it is about Walmart not wanting to be sued. That's why they have the policy. They'd rather not be sued than honor their employees instinct to want to live rather than being shot in the back by these scum bags. I understand that there are reasons and scenarios where it's safer to "go along" but in this case, I can't see that the employees fighting back to take control, when they had the opportunity...was wrong. I agree with having policies. But they should take into account exceptional situations. And I think this was one of those. These employees were trapped in a small place with desperate criminals. They thought they were going to be shot if they didn't do something.

My illustration about the right to have guns is simply a parallel to the mentality of standing up and defending one's self when one thinks that's his only choice, as in this case.


Jenn....apologies for the generalization. I do believe you that not every citizen of any given country is for or against anything. And I'm glad to hear that there are still people, including you, who do not follow the Pied Piper of Hamelin, who lured with his flute, rats and children to their deaths.

That's outrageous how Walmart treated you, accusing you of wrong doing like that. It is indeed very difficult to fight against such a large company.

 

[ACooper]

Wal-Mart is one of the worst employers to work for.

This is a statement you'll find all over the internet, also in person with nearly anyone who's ever worked for (or still does work for) Walmart. You can find story after story of sick people they've fired at the very first (and sometimes VERY stretched) reason.........stories of people fired over questionable "policy", and tons of other bizarre cases.

But sadly, as Jules (or someone) said........you agreed to those policies when you took the job, but never dreamed they could be used against you in the way Walmart uses them until they do