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Video of animals being euthed at shelter-Warning. Heartbreaking. We are Monsters
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Is it horrible that dogs have to be pts...yes, it is. Of course the people at kill shelters are saddened by having to do it.
Not sure the point of watching it? No kill shelters are a great idea in theory...what happens in reality however is they fill up or take the dogs they want, the rest still have to go somewhere. I would rather a dog be pts humanely then live its life in a kennel.
Not sure the point of watching it? No kill shelters are a great idea in theory...what happens in reality however is they fill up or take the dogs they want, the rest still have to go somewhere. I would rather a dog be pts humanely then live its life in a kennel.
I watched the video and its mostly just interviews with euthanasia technicians and is actually quite interesting and sad, but not in a "OMG LOOK AT DOGS DYING!" way, their jobs are very sad.. and its nice they get to tell their stories so people understand that THEY are not the bad guys. somebody has to do it.
Just watch until 5:33 (thats where the interview stops and the footage of euthanasia begins)
A sadder video would be a video of the people who get pets carelessly and then drop them off at a public shelter without a second thought.
THEY are the ones who killed these animals
Just watch until 5:33 (thats where the interview stops and the footage of euthanasia begins)
A sadder video would be a video of the people who get pets carelessly and then drop them off at a public shelter without a second thought.
THEY are the ones who killed these animals
Ugh. So true. I didn't even notice the title
The video actually shows that these people actually care a great deal and its not like they are out doing this for kicks
It's not their fault that their jobs are necessary and they are not the "bad guy" out there murdering animals.
Its irresponsible pet owners who create this problem in the first place
The video actually shows that these people actually care a great deal and its not like they are out doing this for kicks
It's not their fault that their jobs are necessary and they are not the "bad guy" out there murdering animals.
Its irresponsible pet owners who create this problem in the first place
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The lady at the shelter said herself it was murder and no one is demonizing shelter workers. Infact all this killing is not good for them. You may disagree with the idea of no kill and the kind of no kill that keeps animals caged for years is not a great idea. There are no kills where the animals can move freely about. I've been to cat no kill shelters like this and they cats are healthy and happy.
This is a very heated topic. Everyone has the right to their opinion. When I see a video of a healthy animal given a needle and the life drains out of him or her it gets me upset or a cat who is purring I can't help but hope that new paradigms like the one being brought to the Los Angeles Animal Control Department by Brenda Barnette be given a chance to work. Even though euthing in shelters is sanctioned to me it is murder because the animal cannot fight back. Shelter animals are killed because people and society can do it and in some cities businesses make money. Rendering companies take animals who aren't cremated and put them in vats and grind them up and use them in fertilizers and pet food. Companies that make the lethal blue liquid make money. It is not a pretty picture and many people are trying to find a better way to deal with homeless animals.
Here is a link about euthanasia that considers both the human and animal toll.
http://lawlib.wlu.edu/lexopus/works/487-1.pdf
This is a very heated topic. Everyone has the right to their opinion. When I see a video of a healthy animal given a needle and the life drains out of him or her it gets me upset or a cat who is purring I can't help but hope that new paradigms like the one being brought to the Los Angeles Animal Control Department by Brenda Barnette be given a chance to work. Even though euthing in shelters is sanctioned to me it is murder because the animal cannot fight back. Shelter animals are killed because people and society can do it and in some cities businesses make money. Rendering companies take animals who aren't cremated and put them in vats and grind them up and use them in fertilizers and pet food. Companies that make the lethal blue liquid make money. It is not a pretty picture and many people are trying to find a better way to deal with homeless animals.
Here is a link about euthanasia that considers both the human and animal toll.
http://lawlib.wlu.edu/lexopus/works/487-1.pdf
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Here is another thought provoking article.
The earth is flat, pet overpopulation exists and other myths we’ve been told JustOneMorePet
The earth is flat, pet overpopulation exists and other myths we’ve been told JustOneMorePet
I have seen ONE no kill shelter that I consider to be a good life for the animals involved.
its the best friends animal sactuary
Best Friends Animal Society Home Page
The costs of keeping this shelter, of care of all the dogs, paying staff, as well the upkeep of their EXPANSIVE kennel runs, dog play areas, parks and the bringing in of volunteers and foster homes to help with these dogs
not to mention vets to treat these dogs
..the cost is astronomical and IMO not an option for the majority of places. best friends chooses which animals they take in and these dogs stay there for life
but how would something like that work in a city? where would you find the space? what about dogs that they don't want to take in? Where would all that money come from?
Best friends can do what it does regardless of cost because it is a ONE OF A KIND facility backed by the support of many many many people, foundations.. like discovery channel and their show dogtown for example.
They are also in the MIDDLE OF NOWHERE UTAH. There is the space, land is cheap... etc..
But other than very special cases, that I'm sure do exist.. I don't consider life in a shelter a good life for an animal.
Yea, they might have food, water and shelter.. but what about companionship? love? a person? play/activity? training?..
all those things require resources that not many places are ready to deal with in a shelter platform
These dogs might be alive.. but I have seen the psychological damage that happens to dogs that spend way too much time in the shelter environment, even with places to run and other dogs to play with.. I've seen dogs go feral, become aggressive, territorial and because of never leaving that environment they often are shocked and scared when they finally do get a chance to leave!
would a no kill shelter accept ALL DOGS as public shelters do? how?
Miamis public shelter takes in over 100 DOGS a day (not animals..just dogs)...
Even if each dog only had a kennel (forget space to run or anything like that) in only just a month, even if some dogs were adopted.. that shelter would be the size of connecticut.
Not to mention the staff that would be required just to maintain that kind of thing (even just the basic cleaning and food/water) and vet care.
its the best friends animal sactuary
Best Friends Animal Society Home Page
The costs of keeping this shelter, of care of all the dogs, paying staff, as well the upkeep of their EXPANSIVE kennel runs, dog play areas, parks and the bringing in of volunteers and foster homes to help with these dogs
not to mention vets to treat these dogs
..the cost is astronomical and IMO not an option for the majority of places. best friends chooses which animals they take in and these dogs stay there for life
but how would something like that work in a city? where would you find the space? what about dogs that they don't want to take in? Where would all that money come from?
Best friends can do what it does regardless of cost because it is a ONE OF A KIND facility backed by the support of many many many people, foundations.. like discovery channel and their show dogtown for example.
They are also in the MIDDLE OF NOWHERE UTAH. There is the space, land is cheap... etc..
But other than very special cases, that I'm sure do exist.. I don't consider life in a shelter a good life for an animal.
Yea, they might have food, water and shelter.. but what about companionship? love? a person? play/activity? training?..
all those things require resources that not many places are ready to deal with in a shelter platform
These dogs might be alive.. but I have seen the psychological damage that happens to dogs that spend way too much time in the shelter environment, even with places to run and other dogs to play with.. I've seen dogs go feral, become aggressive, territorial and because of never leaving that environment they often are shocked and scared when they finally do get a chance to leave!
would a no kill shelter accept ALL DOGS as public shelters do? how?
Miamis public shelter takes in over 100 DOGS a day (not animals..just dogs)...
Even if each dog only had a kennel (forget space to run or anything like that) in only just a month, even if some dogs were adopted.. that shelter would be the size of connecticut.
Not to mention the staff that would be required just to maintain that kind of thing (even just the basic cleaning and food/water) and vet care.
The thing is there is an over population. Not maybe in numbers but in what is out there. If shelters are full of largeish black or pit type dogs and what people want are medium to small dogs, there may not be a dog over pop, but an over population of large black dogs....
An people should not be demonizing the shelter workers. Just because one of the workers calls it murder doesn't mean they aren't doing it too.
An people should not be demonizing the shelter workers. Just because one of the workers calls it murder doesn't mean they aren't doing it too.
I'm sure no-kill shelters with happy dogs do exist. I'm sorry if it sounded like they didn't.. I'm sure there are places that make the effort and it does happen
..but are these shelters open door? do they take in ALL animals that come in?
If public animal control shelters no longer existed..they would have to. and would it really be possible? IMO..I doubt it.
..but are these shelters open door? do they take in ALL animals that come in?
If public animal control shelters no longer existed..they would have to. and would it really be possible? IMO..I doubt it.
Most people don't disagree with the idea of it, they just don't reside in a land of fantasy where unicorns fart sparkles and **** rainbows, which is where a world filled with truly "no kill" shelters belongs.
COMPLETELY no kill is cruelty at it's finest.
There, I said it.
Everyone who implements no-kill is cruel to animals.
There are some that, for whatever reason, are unadoptable. Aggression issues, health issues, what have you. But keeping them in a kennel or a cage until they die of natural causes is far worse than a merciful death at the hands of an experienced tech. Putting a sick or injured dog through chemo or repeated surgeries to prolong it's life so you don't have to put it to sleep is just cruelty. They don't understand why they're going through so much pain, or cursed with chronic pain and misery until they do finally die. For the animals who are too sick or hurt to live, it's a nightmare.
The other problem with no-kill shelters is funding, which Fran already addressed, and space. SO MANY ANIMALS ARE DUMPED AT SHELTERS. There really, truly, aren't enough loving forever homes for them all. You can drink the kool aid all you want and believe there aren't areas where there's a pet overpopulation, but the problem is more complicated than that. There aren't enough of the right kinds of homes. There are loads of the kinds of homes that get a cute puppy, keep it until it's not cute anymore, and then dump it at a shelter. The kind that will keep an animal for life are the kind pets need, and there just aren't enough.
If every shelter was no-kill, they'd all be filled up within a few days or weeks, and there would be an even bigger problem than we have now.
I'm not saying that the reality of people having to put to sleep animals (and no, I will not call it murder) isn't sad, just that it's the practical solution for the problem.
COMPLETELY no kill is cruelty at it's finest.
There, I said it.
Everyone who implements no-kill is cruel to animals.
There are some that, for whatever reason, are unadoptable. Aggression issues, health issues, what have you. But keeping them in a kennel or a cage until they die of natural causes is far worse than a merciful death at the hands of an experienced tech. Putting a sick or injured dog through chemo or repeated surgeries to prolong it's life so you don't have to put it to sleep is just cruelty. They don't understand why they're going through so much pain, or cursed with chronic pain and misery until they do finally die. For the animals who are too sick or hurt to live, it's a nightmare.
The other problem with no-kill shelters is funding, which Fran already addressed, and space. SO MANY ANIMALS ARE DUMPED AT SHELTERS. There really, truly, aren't enough loving forever homes for them all. You can drink the kool aid all you want and believe there aren't areas where there's a pet overpopulation, but the problem is more complicated than that. There aren't enough of the right kinds of homes. There are loads of the kinds of homes that get a cute puppy, keep it until it's not cute anymore, and then dump it at a shelter. The kind that will keep an animal for life are the kind pets need, and there just aren't enough.
If every shelter was no-kill, they'd all be filled up within a few days or weeks, and there would be an even bigger problem than we have now.
I'm not saying that the reality of people having to put to sleep animals (and no, I will not call it murder) isn't sad, just that it's the practical solution for the problem.
Exactly Nolu. We had a problem with a totally unsocalized and unfriendly cat. The local no kill shelter worker said please don't bring him in. She said if he was un adoptable he would spend years in a cage (they don't have the funding for big cat rooms).
She said it was heart breaking to watch animals day in day out living in a cage.
She said it was heart breaking to watch animals day in day out living in a cage.