On the way home from picking up a new saddle. Older leather tex tan, not a flex tree. I could not decide on a 2,500 new one so this is what I get for now and when I do get a new one this will work for Chaz. Hopin this will work for both of mine like the abetta does. It was only 450 and in good shape. Didn't feel bad about spending it at all. Fun drive on a nice day!