The 14 most dangerous breeds?

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I can help to transfer your message to the website if required...
Hi Tony, it's Molosser's dog photo that is being posted without her permission, so I am sure she would appreciate you helping to have it removed from that site and any site it came from....as well as any other Chinese sites that you might expect would be using it.
 

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I think it is fair to say that a poorly trained pit bull IS more dangerous than a poorly trained pug... It's common sense.
Of course, that common sense would then say that a poorly trained Rottie is more dangerous than a poorly trained pit bull. Heck, I've seen a lot of labs with more size and muscle than most of the pits I know. I hate the size/strength argument.

I find it particularly funny that that particular argument against pits comes up constantly on a horse board I frequent (but don't post on, because the people scare me!). Forget aggression - my horse, and every other one out there, could kill a child or me or Mr. Universe completely by accident! I remember reading about someone who died when their horse went to rub it's head on the owner's chest. The horse did it so hard it damaged the person's heart. Now that's a dangerous animal! Just this week, a friend's horse tripped and fell on top of her; the girl is now hospitalized with two broken hips. Perhaps we should ban all animals over 15 lbs?

Sorry, that's just my rant that I am too chicken to post on the relevant board. Back to your regularly scheduled program.
 

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If it was any of yours dogs depicted on a stupid non research list made from net experts . None of you would stand for it.

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I understand. I had similar feeling when I read that toy poodle was in most people's "unfavourable breeds" list in this forum. Of course it is a different story but I just want to say I understand how much we love our dog and do not want to hear anything bad about them.

Back to the topic, I think people in HK are "educated" to believe (at least) some dogs are dangerous!!! Do you know quite a number of breeds are banned by Hong Kong government?? If I recall right the ban list includes pit bull after a kill of baby some time ago. The incident was because the owners reduced their attention on their dog after having a new born baby. The pit bull bit the baby's neck until her death. And it was not noticed until her father returned to the living room after cooking. The news shocked everyone here, including me. Although now I know a little more about dogs and understand it was 100% the fault of the owner, I feel scared when walking close to big dogs with sharp teeth and angry eyes. Most people here will tell you, a wild animal is a wild animal no matter how well it is trained. You never know when it will go crazy!!! Then I argue, "people go crazy too! It was just a very rare incident. There are much more murders than than dog attack!" But people just want to avoid.

We do not only have an issue on big dogs. Believe it or not, some people will stare at me strangely and keep at a big distance when I am walking with my TOY poodle. My elder sister who is scared of any dog have not visited my home since I brought 99 home :confused:

Another fact is all public residential housing and most private ones ban dogs!!! It is lack of dogs facilities (e,g. dog toliet, park...etc) Dogs are banned in all managed beach. We can only go to somewhere really remote and without any safty measures.

What is your definition on "dangerous"? Will you let your children play with a very protective and untrained dog without supervision? You will not. Just like you will not let your children play in the middle of the road. You will say the place is dangerous!!! But I can also argue that the road is not dangerous, neither is the car. It is human... Again, maybe just because of my bad expression...
 

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Hi Tony, it's Molosser's dog photo that is being posted without her permission, so I am sure she would appreciate you helping to have it removed from that site and any site it came from....as well as any other Chinese sites that you might expect would be using it.
OK, let me try.
 

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I just send message to complain... It will be deleted in the www.discuss.com.hk

but here is a piece of bad news. I just did a google Chinese search. And seems the topic is posted on quite alot of website in China?
http://www.bloggoo.net/pet/?p=4417

The Club.Chinaren.com is a discussion forum consist of many topics. It is a mainland community which I never go there. So very difficult for me to search the original post...
 
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No problem Tony and thank you .


I waited up for the Sopranos and no ending/ what gives too tired to stay online..

Will chat tomorrow and visit that link and try my best at translating.

:)
 

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No problem Tony and thank you .


I waited up for the Sopranos and no ending/ what gives too tired to stay online..

Will chat tomorrow and visit that link and try my best at translating.

:)
Not to Hijack...but the Sopranos ending was "Wacked". I guess the Sopranos movie is already in the works.
 

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...just an American TV Obsession, Tony. I never watch the show myself. Reminds me too much of my Uncle Angelo, may his body parts rest in peace....
 

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i love a lot of those breeds on that list, tosa's and pits are illegal here. but i'm a huge fan of bull terriers.

as for great danes? is it just because their big that their "dangerous"?

a lot of those breeds will possess natual protecttion instincts, people just freak out because their big. i've only seen one dog that seemed openly aggressive (towards dogs not people) thats on a lot of dangerous breeds lists.
it was a rotweiler that used to live near me. the owner didn't look like a bad owner though, the first couple of times i walked passed it was all aggro at buster, and mum said she was a bit nervous because the dog almost seemed stronge than the man walking it. but last few times i saw him he was walking it on short walks near his house, he walked past our house, had it on a very short lead and was walking it a couple of steps, then treating, aand treating while it was ignoring our dogs. it was acting a lot better already.

sorry, had to add. i'm proud of that man.
 

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Who was justifying it :confused:
Ditto...

Fact - post pictures on the net, and people will use them unless you have one of those right click blocker things... But you can still print screen and take the photos I imagine?

You either accept that, protect the photos better, or don't post them at all.

That is not justification - that is stating the obvious - and HOPEFULLY making you think more about photo protection for the future.
 
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LOl When I say to my buyers dump my dogs in a shelter I HUNT you down and kill you "ditto " applies to my (C) .

I am very dangerous when pushed much more so then my dogs.
I will do any and all to protect what is mine.

Fact is the only way to protect them is to file complaints and or legal remedies which I have done in this case like all others!!!.
This wont be the last one by far and the topic is what pushed my complainet not the 1 million time someone took a pic of mine.
Since I have over 2200 pics online this would be impossible.

NO program NO website no printed (C) can stop anyone from theft.

So I dont need to think about (C) protection. I just need to think more about walking in others peoples shoes before posting just a thougth.
 
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For Tony this is the link for the show.
My friend is working with my lawyer to file more complaints with that site .
translations are slowing it a bit.

http://www.hbo.com/sopranos/episode/index.shtml

I loved this show since I moved away from this life 10 years ago.
May many of my friends rest in peace and inlaws.

I miss the food and the accents I dont get up in farm land.
 

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For Tony this is the link for the show.
My friend is working with my lawyer to file more complaints with that site .
translations are slowing it a bit.

http://www.hbo.com/sopranos/episode/index.shtml

I loved this show since I moved away from this life 10 years ago.
May many of my friends rest in peace and inlaws.

I miss the food and the accents I dont get up in farm land.
Tks Planet Molosser. Seems it is an interesting show. My local TV broadcast occassionally buys some nice US shows. Some time ago, we have American Next Top Mode, Queer Eye for the Straigh Guy and Apprentice... Lately, it is showing Prison Break II and House II. Some of them are very nice...

One question: You said there was not a breed called Central Asian Shepherd (that is the breed name I directly translate word by word from the passage). Sorry, I just discovered your head photo... which say Central Asian Shepherd Socity of Amercian ... I am confused...

Obviously, the original poster of the passage found your photo or the website of your society but he did not know the name of the breed, then he just did what I did, a direct translation. This is another proof that he stole the photo from you...
 
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I think it will make its way to your country.

regards to name

When the Russians TOOK the breed from the Central Asian countries they
invaded back in the 20's they took all types of regionals dogs and put them under a standard called " Middle Asian Ovcharka " which translates to shepherd dog.

This MAO name or MAS named was NEVER used by Natives.
For about 70 years this was the named used in the adopted country..

But when Russian became a partner to FCI the name was changed to
Sredneasiastskaia Ovtcharka (SAO) which often is HALF translated to Central Asian Ovcharka or OVTcharka or OWTCHARKA..

When I took the breed to UKC we translated the entire name to Central Asian Shepherd dogs. Which is more correct since most natives in Central Asia admit they are some sort of shepherds or sheep dog or dogs that graze with sheep.

Here is a link http://www.centralasianshepherd.homestead.com/standards.html

Central Asian shepherd dogs are a landrace of breeds vs a man made breed created to function for one working job or another.

Dogs working in the former USSR in cities were more stranger human aggressive worked well in packs guarding factories.
They selected away from the natives dogs tolerance of human that were not part of the tribe.

Native dogs and dogs used in livestock areas have a wolf pack dog to dog thing that works well, alpha and omega etc and are wary of strangers but do not have quick trigger.

Now the NEW age dogs being bred all over the world are huge monster for dog fighting . These dogs are DANGEROUS.
Some are mixed with bull breeds, or Saints to increase size and they are not
good family dogs.

Dog fighting is legal in many countries.

Our club allows no dog to be bred with a known fighting history or ot buy from breeders who promote dog fighting.

We promote the working livestock dog .
 
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