Testicles

[Lizmo]

Blaze has one testicle that hasn't dropped.

Now my vet told me that if, by 6 months old, it hasn't dropped, they want to go in, find it, and remove the other testicle that has dropped.

I'm hoping that it drops and he doesn't have to go through a surgery like that (they said sometimes it gets lost in the abdomen, eek!).

So I emailed my breeder about it and he actually said that Blaze's sire's had done this and that the one "lost" testicle was removed and everything is fine.

I'm leaning toward believe my breeder over the vet. But what's your opinion?

 

[DaVinci]

We had a dog that only one testie dropped. When he was neutered the vet simply went in and pulled the inverted one out and snipped them both. I don't remeber it bothering the dog at all.

 

[Lizmo]

Well it seemed like when the vet was feeling for them, he thought he felt it in the abdomen.

 

[bubbatd]

Yes , it should be removed and why not neuter at the same time ..........

 

[Lizmo]

I didn't want to neuter him.

 

[DaVinci]

Why not neuter him?

 

[bubbatd]

Then don't !

 

[Lizmo]

If he turns out to be a dog that I like, and his breeder likes, I might breed him. But that depends on alot right now.

 

[DaVinci]

I'm still really new around here. What type of dog is Blaze?

 

[Renee750il]

I'm amazed that the breeder bred a dog that had an undescended testicle. I don't know how it is in other breeds, but that's a HUGE do not breed thing in Filas.

 

[OutlineACDs]

I'm amazed that the breeder bred a dog that had an undescended testicle. I don't know how it is in other breeds, but that's a HUGE do not breed thing in Filas.

I agree. Never heard of anyone keeping or breeding a dog with an undescended testicle. It is genetic after all, which might be why your puppy's may not drop.

 

[Laurelin]

I would be very wary of breeding a dog with a retained testicle but that's just me... I'm pretty sure that there can be a genetic link to this.

He's young, though, and a lot could change. I wouldn't really decide anything until he's older and you see what happens.

If it's retained it probably needs to be removed. I also have heard that retained testicles have an increased likelihood of tumors.

 

[Lizmo]

I'm amazed that the breeder bred a dog that had an undescended testicle. I don't know how it is in other breeds, but that's a HUGE do not breed thing in Filas.

If it's not causing problems with the dog, I don't see how it can be bad. He's an amazing dog - on and off the trial field. But thats a whole 'nother thread, and I'd prefer we not get into it in this thread. Every breeder is going to have a "red flag or two". No breeder is perfect.

 

[CharlieDog]

These are working Border Collies that excel at what they do. A retained testicle is not going to stop the dog from doing its work phenomenally well, and Im sure the breeder wants to preserve the lines.

 

[Laurelin]

I think people are just saying it can be bad because it can be genetically linked (therefore passed down) and can cause higher instances of tumors and other health problems. Enough reason for me to question breeding no matter the other aspects of the dog, imo.

 

[Bahamutt99]

I wouldn't buy from a breeder breeding monorchid dogs, and sure wouldn't breed a dog myself that was monorchid. But that's just me. I don't like passing on genetic defects.

 

[ACooper]

Well I wouldn't borrow troubles

He is very young and sometimes they can take a while to drop. It's the same in human boys too

EDIT: Looks like they should drop by no later than 5-6 months old.........if not you can be risking his health to leave it go.

 

[elegy]

undescended testicles have a high risk of becoming cancerous. they are not designed to stay up inside the body. i couldn't tell you a single breed in which breeding a dog with undescended testicles was not a huge no-no.

 

[jess2416]

Blaze has one testicle that hasn't dropped.

Now my vet told me that if, by 6 months old, it hasn't dropped, they want to go in, find it, and remove the other testicle that has dropped.

I'm hoping that it drops and he doesn't have to go through a surgery like that (they said sometimes it gets lost in the abdomen, eek!).

So I emailed my breeder about it and he actually said that Blaze's sire's had done this and that the one "lost" testicle was removed and everything is fine.

I'm leaning toward believe my breeder over the vet. But what's your opinion?

My .02 cents...

How would you respond to another poster if they would have posted the same thing..

whatever that answer would be, well thats what you should do...

 

[doberkim]

Have to agree with everyone else - I've never heard of anyone accepting the breeding of a cryptorchid dog, and your pup most likely has it because its known to be genetically passed on to offspring.

As elegy said, it needs to be removed if both testicles haven't dropped - any retained testicle is kept at the wrong temperature when inside the body, and this makes that testicle very prone to cancer.

In my veterinary experiences, if dogs don't have both testicles down by 8-12 weeks, MOST are not going to have both down. Some dogs will have a second testicle drop back down, especially if its palpable in the inguinal canal, or I can BRING it down into the scrotum from the canal - but if I cannot feel it, or think that it's in the abdomen? I've never really EVER seen those drop, that I can recall.

And I'd push to neuter any pup that was a cryptorchid - no sense in passing that along at all. I don't see where this is a "believe your breeder or your vet" - they both said the same thing - in fact, your breeder just admitted that she bred a dog that HAD surgery to remove his retained testicle, which is exactly what your vet wants to do to your puppy if his retained testicle doesn't drop - remove it. Your vet just wants to do the responsible thing and neuter the dog entirely to prevent passing on an undesireable genetic trait. Did you know your breeder had done this before? I have to say, I find that to be pretty ethically .. .well... dicey.