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Laurelin

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So most of you know paps and other toy breeds get the tarter buildup really bad. Summer's got cleaned this summer when she got spayed but are already building up gunk again. She gets chewies and I've tried teeth brushing, but she hates it.

I was thinking about some raw bones maybe, but I'm kind of scared I'll do something stupid and mess up and give her something not good for her. The feed store sells chicken necks and some other raw food, but I just don't know where to start and I don't have the freezer space to keep much raw. Plus I have no idea how often to give a bone...

What do you think? I want to avoid dental cleanings as much as possible, but with the toys it's hard.
 

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I'd say chicken necks, because she's so small. Maybe even turkey necks. Chicken wings could be good too, Izzy only gets them since she is thorough with her food and doesn't gulp.

The feed store sells chicken necks and some other raw food, but I just don't know where to start and I don't have the freezer space to keep much raw.
Take chicken neck out of bag, hand to dog. ;)
 

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I can tell you that my vets are amazed with Mollie's teeth and the fact that she doesn't have "poodle mouth". She is horribly bred, a poodle, and nine years old. Doesn't get much worse, lol. She's not raw fed, but she gets chicken/turkey necks usually once a week or so.
 

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When I got my dog, she already had established dental problems. Although she was young, the vets felt she had been malnourished as a puppy or had an immune related problem-her teeth were so bad, gums receeding severely etc. We had to have a bunch taken out in order to save her remaining teeth.

Everyday brushing is a MUST for us, and she (despite the pain and problems she had) actually LOVES getting her teeth done now. When I get the brushing stuff out both my dogs run to where we brush to be first to get done!. What I do... (I'm sure everyone does try to make brushing as positive as they can), but first we did all the initial gentle introductions etc- but they really still didnt like it- the toothbrushes are too harsh.!!!!!
The dentist (very expensive Board Certified dentist) told me not to use any toothbrushes made for dogs- but a child's soft toothbrush-....and both my dogs like this- I also give treats every 20- 30 seconds-as I work- I use Nutro Healthy Desserts which they LOVE, little teeny fingerfulls as I go (I know soft food is a no no........but I think the tradeoff is worth it);.She is also on a strict diet and these are low cal- just fruit and water- I dont know why they love them so much.
We do raw bones too- but I have to watch the raw stuff as I was told it can be a problem, if she in fact does have any kind of immune depression. My boy dog wont eat any bones at all (wierd)
I also add Pro Den Plaque Off to thier food, I think it helps somewhat, as my boy had some plaque (never had a cleaning on him) and now he is down to almost none. I would be interested to hear anyone else's experience with this

I like the Foster and Smith Dental Clens pads............little pads with chlorhexadine on them- they keep bacteria out of the mouth- I use them after the brushing (girl only- I feel I dont want to upset the biotic balance in the boys mouth as I feel his mouth is essentialy healthy) I even rubbed my own teeth and gums with them...............felt great, really clean.

Almost forgot........ Foster and Smith also makes little sponges on sticks- very gentle, if your dog wont accept a brush these are great- in fact I think this is what we started out with. Before she had the bad teeth taken out- this was the gentlest way to clean her mouth.

I firmly believe prevention is better than cure!!!!!!!- so am not saying do this instead of raw food and bones etc.........thats probably the first and best way to go:)
This stuff is for those of us who have dogs with pre existing conditions or genetic predispositions etc, who need to go the extra mile...like me!!!

A lot of info - but I hope it helps anyone into teeth care

BTW- 7 months post surgery and cleaning- not a sign of plaque or nasty breath!!!
Previous to that she had had a cleaning, and 1-2 months later plaque and deadly breath was back (they could not extract on this day as they said she had anesthetic problems)
 
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Hi there,

I know you mentioned your dog hates teeth brushing, but I'm curious how many times you've tried it. After several experiences, dogs usually get the hang of it.

If you think the tartar build up looks really bad, you may want to get your vet's opinion. He may decide to scale off the plaque to keep his gums healthy and then recommend a home routine after that.

If it doesn't appear to be that bad, I say keep trying the brushing, and work toward doing it twice a week. Bones and dry food can somewhat help scratch tartar build-up off, but they really can't replace proper dental hygiene.

I hope this helps!
 
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Try the chicken or turkey necks. Chicken wings are good for small dogs too. If you don't feel she's benefitting enough from thawed bones, try freezing them.

There are products you can buy to put in her water that are suppossed to help break down plaque. The best thing I have ever seen was a gel called Petzlife. http://www.petzlife.com/ It really works. No brushing involved, just rub a little on the dog's teeth everyday until the plaque is gone.
 

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I use the Petzlife gel on Rylie and Chloe's teeth, and I've really noticed a difference with their plaque reduction. I need to start using it more often (gotten behind on it since we moved last week), but we used it for about 2-3 weeks straight and it's really helped.
 
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I agree with frozen chicken wings. One twice a week. I would also get digestive enzymes to go with the raw wings when you give them.

I get mine from Nature's Farmacy. http://www.naturesfarmacy.com

Raw foods work in several ways to help keep dog's teeth clean. You get the chewing/scraping benefits. Raw foods also encourage a dog's saliva to become very acidic when they are eating raw foods. This helps make the dog's mouth an inhospitable environment for plaque and tartar buildup.
 

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my sister gives her papillon frozen chicken wings a couple times a week,,he has very nice teeth and he loves those wings:))
 
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Molly needs her teeth done pretty badly, King's aren't great either. The only dog I ever had with no tartar and plaque build up was Gus, my Pit mix, whose teeth were still shiny and white at 14.5. I guess it was due to the box of rawhide strips he ate every day of his life. It was a huge change form my Lab, Joe, who had a ton of easily removable tartar on his back teeth. The stuff on King's and Molly's teeth is some tough stuff. I can't get it to crack like I could with Joe. I could break it up with my thumbnail most of the time, it just came off like a shell.
 

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Bumping up an older thread...has anyone had any luck with dental sprays?

Example: http://www.onlynaturalpet.com/products/Leba-III-Dental-Spray/302000.aspx

Leba III stimulates enzymes found in saliva to change the chemistry in the mouth. This softens the tartar and eventually, after a few weeks, causes the plaque to wear away and the tartar to fall off.

Leba III, which had a 100% response in double blind testing, keeps your pet's teeth clean with just 1-2 sprays at morning and 1-2 sprays at night. Click here for the double blind test results.

No brushing or change in diet required
Helps avoid expensive and risky dental procedures
No side effects
No enamel damage from the use of this product
Almost no taste
Human-grade ingredients
Just 1-2 sprays morning and night
Results visible in 4-6 weeks
 

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You mean the dental spray? If so, do you just spray it on the tongue?
http://petzlife.com/
You spray it on the teeth, not the tongue.
I'm VERY happy with the gel. Haven't tried the spray because Auggie had pretty thick tartar in some places and I figured the gel would be the better route to go.
 

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My dog had a pretty bad plaque build-up about a year ago. I decided to start feeding him Bright Bites dental treats, as well as some raw hide and bull sticks and his teeth are whiter than ever!
 

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we do small raw marrowbones and ribs with a little bit of meat still left on charlie gets a knuckle.

mostly because we dont have the space to store a pack of wings and we can pick up raw bones dirt cheap at a local grocery store

even ruby my crested (a breed known especially for tooth problems!) and the chis have great teeth! we do once a week.
 

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we do small raw marrowbones and ribs with a little bit of meat still left on charlie gets a knuckle.

mostly because we dont have the space to store a pack of wings and we can pick up raw bones dirt cheap at a local grocery store

even ruby my crested (a breed known especially for tooth problems!) and the chis have great teeth! we do once a week.
I've heard great things about knuckle bones from people on here. How often do you give your dog the bone to get the "white" effect? Bright Bites is a daily treat for my dog, after his meal time. Works great, and he loves the different flavors.
 

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You mean the dental spray? If so, do you just spray it on the tongue?
I use the gel, and just show him the bottle. I squirt a bit out and while he's licking it I just squirt out the right amount onto his tongue. He adores the stuff.

With my cats I get a little squirty thingy, fill it up with the right amount and scruff & squirt. They loathe it with a passion, and now run when they see me holding the bottle. I have to wrap Emma in a towel because she goes nuts on me when she sees it now, poor cat. :(
 

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