Teaching Stand and other questions...

[katt]

George knows:
Sit, Stay, Lay Down, Come, No, etc...

We're working on loose leash walking (When he pulls on pleasure walks I stop and won't move until he comes back to me and then we start forward again.
) and heel (He's to walk at my left, next to my left leg, slightly behind, and sit when I stop. Doing really well with this too.)

We want to teach him Stand. To go from laying to standing, from sitting to standing... you get the picture. But, we're having a tough time doing this. We can't really put him into a stand from sitting or lying down 'cause he doesn't help at all.

Any ideas will help.

 

[oriondw]

Doing good

Does he know the meaning of command stand yet and just hasnt perfected it?

The main thing here is to say your command "stand" whenever he gets up from down or sit, he'll learn it very quickly that way. See him getting up, Say stand as he's doing it and praise afterwards.

To perfect stand, I use a help of a 6" leash. Put him in stand position then say wait, and to keep him from dropping stand, run a leash under his belly so it holds him in place.

Found it great help in teaching dogs stand.

 

[Mordy]

"Stand" is a confusing command for dogs, since it takes them a while to understand what it means. To us, it means "stand there on all 4 paws and don't move", but to a dog that's not the same as "get up from a sit or down, have 4 paws on the ground and don't move".

Personally I've had gread success using a clicker.

When you train a dog using operant conditioning, you teach the behavior first and only give it a cue (command word or signal) when the dog knows what it means.

I started out by sitting ont he floor with my dog, with a pouch of yummy treats in my lap, clicker in one hand, not doing anything. If your dog knows "sit" already, it's very likely he'll just plop his butt down, expecting to be rewarded. This is the point where you need to watch closely. Eventually he will get frustrated and bored since no treat is coming, and eventually he'll get up. *CLICK* Treat, praise! You just showed the dog exactly what you want him to do.

In the beginning, you click at the exact point when his butt comes off the ground from a sit. Eventually you move on to clicking later and later until you get to the point where he has to be fully up on all 4 and not moving.

Once the dog performs reliably, you introduce your word or hand signal to put the behavior on cue.

From there on out you can work on posture (it's easy to teach the dog to stand nicely stacked for example) and on duration.

 

[yoko]

what i did with yoshi was i had her sit down and then i'd walk a distance away and say up and show her a treat. whenever she stood i'd say good walk back over to her and give her the treat. same for when she's laying down

 

[katt]

Great advice, I'll be trying some of it soon.

What I've been doing is having him sit, I take a step back and then say stand. He thinks it means come, he'll get up and then walk around me. Not that he has far to go, but still.

I'm happy that he gets up out of his sit and stands, but he keeps moving. So, we'll see what we can do.

I'm always open to suggestions.

 

[Zoom]

The way I did it was to put my hand under the dogs belly and apply upward pressure. Once they were on all fours, praise and treats and "Good stand." Also, continue to rub the belly so they don't sit right back down when you pull out a treat. That ingrained "sit for treats" is a hard one to get around. The leash looped under the belly technique mentioned above also works quite well for when you want to step back and keep the dog standing.

 

[RD]

The way I did it was to put my hand under the dogs belly and apply upward pressure. Once they were on all fours, praise and treats and "Good stand." Also, continue to rub the belly so they don't sit right back down when you pull out a treat. That ingrained "sit for treats" is a hard one to get around. The leash looped under the belly technique mentioned above also works quite well for when you want to step back and keep the dog standing.

That's what I always did, too. It's pretty simple actually if the dog understands the "stay" command to mean not moving a muscle.
I always started off just associating "stand" with the action of standing up, and not necessarily staying in one spot. That's one of the things that my trainer/mentor does that I don't like. She makes a dog stand and holds it there for quite some time. I tend to be a little more lenient when I'm teaching them.. Once they know to get up when you say stand, you can perfect their position or stance.