Teaching a Fearful Dog

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Hello all and thank you for letting me join your community. My family was recently given a dog who was abused in the past. We are 100% committed to taking care of him for the rest of his days to the best of our ability but we need a bit of help.

Since he has been abused he is really afraid of everything and everyone and he chews through everything. He recently ran away while he was being walked by slipping out of his collar. He is now in a harness but he found a new way to escape when he becomes frightened, he chews through his leash. :(

Can anyone here recommend a leash that he won't be able to chew through and give us pointers for helping him overcome his fearfulness?
 

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How does he have time to chew through the leash? Is it like a tie out or are we just talking about the leash you walk him with?
 

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It's his walking leash that he chewed through this last time and he did it in a matter of seconds. He is so fearful of any type of sudden movements, any people other than us (which he has just begun to get use to) and any other animals that he will do anything to get away in some situations. I've tried to be careful where we walk and as long as we don't run into any other people or animals he is doing great.

It just worries me for him. When he slipped from his leash the first time we put him in a harness and thought that problem would be solved. I have been stroking him and telling him that he is a good dog when I see a situation that seems like it might frighten him and that has helped but I can't always see it before he does and I can't always predict how he will respond.

I will follow any reasonable suggestions. He really is a pretty good dog. He has started to become playful with my children and is showing a lot more confidence when we are home than he shows out in public so I know he has it in him. I just need help bringing out that confidence when we are in public.....and finding a leash that he won't be able to chew through. I'm afraid he will get hurt or lost when he runs like that. :(
 

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My dog was like that. She was beaten and someone threw a stereo at her, but anyway: Always encourage your dog and if you want him to get used to people, let him meet them on your proerty. Dogs feel safer when they know the area they're in. If you take him to the park and he sees another dog he's more likely to get scared than if you're at home. Also, if you are at the park, when you see another dog reach down and start encouraging and patting yours. And I mean really pat him. Crouch down, let him lean against you, tell him how good he is, keep a lot of his attention focused on you until the other dog walks by. Then start using your happy voice and tell him how good he is and start walking.
For a leash....he shouldn't be able to chew threw a leather one that quickly where you couldn't catch him.
 

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Thanks for the advice. We have been doing what you suggested but not to the extent you are describing and you're correct that it helps a lot. He really likes that positive reinforcement. I'm afraid that he hides the entire time anyone new comes here and I really don't know if I should force the issue or not. We have had him for just under a week and he is just beginning to come around with me. He doesn't seem to mind it so much when my children move fast but he still shakes and lowers his head if I move fast.
 

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I have been stroking him and telling him that he is a good dog when I see a situation that seems like it might frighten him and that has helped but I can't always see it before he does and I can't always predict how he will respond.
Hopefully one of our pros/almost pros will see this and reply. I'm particularly curious to see their responses to this part. I've been told that trying to soothe and reassure your dog when they are scared can actually have a negative effect. That you are basically reinforcing their fearful response.

I think a light chain lead would be your best bet; leather is pretty "chewable" as well as the nylon leads. It sounds like he's already come a ways in a week; I hope you can get the help you need and that he continues to get more comfortable. Good luck!

Edited to add - Here are older posts that I made when I was having some pretty severe fear reactions from my dog. Obviously my situation was a bit different from yours, but I got some really good advice that made a huge difference in Meg. Perhaps some of it will help you.
http://www.chazhound.com/forums/search.php?searchid=631287
 
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Do you know for a fact that he was abused or could it have been that he had no socialization as a very young pup?

For a while, I'd just spend time, you and him getting to know each other and getting some more trust going. He needs to trust you before he can go on to trust others. Personally, I would keep him at a distance from other people or dogs or whatever particularly sets him off....a distance where he is relatively comfortable. Make it a point. Find a place where no one will appear suddenly around a corner. Keep him where he can see people, but at a distance where he is calm and fairly confident. When he sees people but is not acting afraid, give him tiny, pea sized treats...good treats...(real meat, cheese,hot dog tid bits) and praise him. Don't get closer to people until at that distance he is doing very well. Then gradually, and I mean gradually decrease the distance between the stimuli and him. If he looks terrified, don't fuss over him, no big deal, no particular attention. (that can cause a learned helplessness in dogs...they find out that it's a good and rewarding state to be in...kind of screwy but it happens)...just turn him sideways and get him to look at you. (another exercise to practice at home)

I don't know just how freaked out this dog is, so if he's super nervous, I'd just work with him at home for a time....just the two of you rather than venturing out. He's not going to get anything out of a walk if he's terrified. He's not going to associate a walk with a good time. so, you might need to put those walks off for a while.

After a while, if he's doing much better....if you have a friend come over, which might be better than taking him out on a walk where you don't know what or who you'll run into....have a friend sit down and don't pay any attention to the dog....no staring at, or bending over to try and pat the dog. These are often intimidating body movements to a dog.

As far as patting, dogs don't necessarily love patting. Most dogs get conditioned to like it because it's associated with good things, but it's not a particularly natural thing and a shy dog isn't going to just LOVE being petted all the time, especially on top of the head. So, when you want to give the dog what he likes, don't automatically assume it's patting. See what kind of food is his favorite. If he does enjoy some gentle stroking when you're just hanging out on the couch...great. But watch the top of his head. Most dogs dislike that, especially the pat, pat, pat....slappy thing people do. That is actually quite the punisher.

So, if the friend and you are sitting down chatting, just ignore the dog if he seems fearful. Quiet, low voices, slow movements, but don't walk on eggshells either....just a happy medium. If he seems comfortable in the least, have your friend toss a treat on the floor for him. Still, no attempts to approach or entice the dog to come for a "pat." Let your dog decide on his own terms and time line. I'd practice this with the same friend for a few times and another person after that. You'll have to ask some people to help you out.

For fun and exercise, for a little while, I'd stay close to home...maybe some walks where you know it's fairly quiet and he'll feel safe, and yet where he might see another person or two from somewhat of a distance. See if he'll play with a toy out on the grass.

Remember, every time he sees a person or dog or anything that is potentially scary, give him a treat and a "goooooood boy." But...only when he's not too frightened. And if he is frightened, you need to go back to where he was pretty comfortable and work up gradually. Try to associate scary things with good things. (high value treats and low key praise)

All training is motivation and reward...no force, no pulling or scolding....nothing scary, as I can see you're doing already. You can use a light weight chain for a leash if it doesn't frighten him. I would think leather is pretty tough. I have a leather leash and I let my Doberman play with it for a few seconds for a reward because he loves fooling around with it. He lets go when I tell him, "enough" though.

If you have a fenced area or even inside the house, it's a good place to work on his recall. He won't likely develop a good recall until he develops complete trust in you, which can take some time. But anytime he comes near you...even not all the way, toss him a treat and praise him. Or a favorite toy if he likes toys. Make coming to you, even on his onw accord the best thing ever. I'd hand feed him his food for a while. Can he sit? Ask for a sit and give him a handful of kibble. See if you can entice him in a playful way to follow you down the hall. Give him a handful of his dinner. Try to involve him in his "livlihood." In other words, if he wants to eat, he is going to have to trust you and follow you and look up to you to take care of him.

If you see him doing something you don't like, don't scold or say, "no." Just give him an alternative thing to do and praise/treat for that. Most dogs value food very highly and it's a great reinforcer.

You can teach him "enough." When he's chewing on his leash and he stops for even a second, say, "enough" and give him a treat. You can also give him an alternative to holding his leash in his mouth by replacing it with something else similar. Let him carry it along when he walks and praise him....a toy or a rope toy. Making the walk fun for him is really important. Don't worry too much about a few bad habits like that. The main thing is that he bonds with you and learns to trust you even more...then he'll probably start to trust a friend of yours, then another friend, then one person he sees on the road at a distance, then at a closer distance and so on. I would definitely start at home and delay the walks in the "scary" places for a while. Take baby steps. It will take time for sure.

Kudos to you for taking him on and giving him the love he deserves. I hope this helps. I'm sure someone else will have some ideas for you also.
 
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Hopefully one of our pros/almost pros will see this and reply. I'm particularly curious to see their responses to this part. I've been told that trying to soothe and reassure your dog when they are scared can actually have a negative effect. That you are basically reinforcing their fearful response.

I've always heard this too. But I have always told Lizzie "It's okay" in that baby/soft voice and stroked her softly when she gets "scared" or anxious. And it's really helped her a lot. She's more calm in situations that, a year ago, she would have freaked.
So I'll be interested to see there responses too.

I really won't try and bring the dog out when new people are around. You are going to have to take it really slow. Let him get totally comfortable with you, and to the point where he trust you. Then start adding new situations in that could be scary.

IMO, trying to train a dog that doesn't have your trust will lead no where.
 

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Spy used to bark/growl at people (still does occasionally, though MUCH better) and I would never soothe/stroke him.

I'll say things along the line of:

"Nothing to worry about."
"Lets go see who that is!"
"Oh wow, how exciting, a new person!"

Talk in a calming, but CONFIDENT (can't stress that enough) voice and approach whatever or whoever it is that is scaring them. At this point, watch your dog very carefully. You want to get to the point that they are just slightly nervous, not panicking. Continue talking confidently and act happy and confidently yourself. I like to make Spy 'Watch Me' or 'Wave' or do some tricks to take his mind off of the scary thing. Once he seems more calm and less frightened, I back away from whatever is scaring him and offer him a treat. Not only are you rewarding him with a treat, but you are ALSO rewarding him by moving away from whatever is scaring him.

After several minutes of play, approach again, and get a little closer. Do the exact same steps. If your dog begins to lose focus and starts really stressing, remove him from the situation.

If it's people he is nervous of, he can teach him a fun little game. Get a trusted friend that your dog is comfortable around. Have him touch your friends hand and give him a treat. Once he learns that touching the hand earns him good things, you can start sending him from a small distance and working your way up to bigger distances. Remember, your volounteer (depending on how well your dog knows him/her) should be very non threatening and can throw in praise and hand the dog treats AFTER he touches their hand. Your goal is to have your dog greet people by approaching them himself as apposed to having them approach him. So if someone were to ask to pet him, you could say something along the lines of:

"If you hold out your hand he can come and say hi, but please don't reach out towards him, as he is quite nervous."

This way, he can stay inside his comfort zone when greeting new people.

One thing I like to do with stationary objects is act curious about them. Don't force your dog near them, but instead pretend you yourself are very interested and curious about it. For example, put your dog on a long lead; long enough to have lots of space but so that you have control. Your dog should not be trying to pull away, the rope should be long enough so that there is no pressure. Let's say it's a garbage can that she is scared of.

When you see that she is scared, immediately walk confidently towards what is scaring her.

"Wow, what is this? Let's go check it out!"

Try and make your voice sound fun, curious, AND confident.

Walk towards it, touch it, and exclaim how cool it is. Call to her and try and motivate her to come and see it with you. NEVER force her towards it or pull on the lead, this will have a negative effect. Try placing a treat near it or (depending on how close she will come) on it. Offer her treats for standing near the 'scary' object. Remember, lots of praise, and NEVER force her to do anything against her will.

Anyhow, hope you understood at least some of that. It's what worked for me; as both my dogs are on the skittish side.

Best of luck,

~Tucker
 

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Super advice Tucker! That is all so important. It's just so hard over the Internet to see just how fearful the dog is and how much to do and when. I think what you're describing is so good if the dog is ready for that close of an encounter.
 

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Great Advice, Emily (Tuck). I think you've really hit the nail on the head. :)
 

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I read all the post and you have received some excellent advice. But unless I missed it in one of the other posts that often works very well with a non confident or fearful dog is to teach them 'watch me'. Of course it has to be trained with positive reinforcements.
If you need to know how to correctly train watch me, just ask. Myself or many others on here can tell you how to do it.
(I need to hit the hay at this point, or I would post it now, sorry)
Btw, kudos to you for giving him a home and taking the time to find the right kind of info (which you can find right here on Chaz).

Take care and good luck
Lynn
 

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I suppose I should have given a little background information on him so you could help me better. He is a mix between a Beagle and Black Lab and about a year old. We are his third set of people, which is why we are 100% committed to making this his home forever. (We wouldn't get a dog without making that commitment anyway but it seems really important considering his history.)

The people who had him last didn't have enough time to really care for him and wanted to get rid of him because he would relieve himself inside and chew through EVERYTHING when they weren't home, which was frequently. The woman was his caretaker because the man couldn't get close enough to him to even pet him. He was fearful of the man the entire time they had him and that never got better. They knew his story and knew of his abuse so it's certain that he has actually been abused. Looking at him it looks like his tail has been broken but other than that there are no physical marks on him. He has been to the vet and I'll be taking him in as soon as he is able to be in a situation like that. I would take him right now if there was an emergency but I'm afraid that atmosphere would be horrible for him right now. He has his tags, shots and has been wormed so I think it can wait until he would be more comfortable.

When we go for a walk and come across another person or animal it's not just that he is afraid it's a total freak-out for him. He jumps straight up into the air and tries to run backwards. With me he just lowers his head and shakes but around others he will do anything that he can to get away. It makes me sad because he is totally silent, he won't yelp, wine or bark he just jumps and runs. If I see that a situation could be scary for him I've been telling him he is a good dog and stroking him behind his ears. He has a hound build and lots of saggy skin in that area and he seems to like it when I sort of (gently, of course) grab that skin and move it around. If I can catch him in time and do that he still gets scared when he sees the other people or animals but he will stay with me rather than jumping and running off as fast as he can.

The leash that he chewed through was a rope leash and he did it in a matter of seconds, I think because he was so scared. The situation cropped up quickly and he saw it before I did. He jumped and tried to pull away to run but he is wearing the harness now and couldn't escape that way, so he turned his head to the side and chewed his leash in half and took off.

That's a bit of his background if that helps. I want to say some of the positive things about him though, too. He has only had accidents inside once since we have been taking care of him and I think that he thought he should be going where he went because he was trying hard to get into that room to go again once when he really had to go. We take him in our back yard very regularly to go. When he is inside he is starting to show confidence and he has a pretty fun personality when he lets it out. :D My children can go around being children and it doesn't bother him a bit. Occasionally he will even join in and play with them. When we go for walks and we don't run across anyone else or any other pets he is a joy to walk. He stops when we stop, he stays right with me and he has a funny way of sniffing the air and looking at me like he is asking me if I smell that. :p He has even wagged his tail a time or two when he is playing with my kids. He really seems to love my daughter and has given her a "happy dog" look when she plays with him. He has chew toys, which he goes through at an alarming rate, but he hasn't been chewing other things as long as we keep him supplied with them and give them to him when he starts to chew.

I have read all of your replies and I appreciate them all. This message is already so long that I'm going to respond to your messages in a separate response. Thank you all though.
 

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After re-reading through your responses and trying to formulate a direct response to your suggestions I've come to the conclusion that the problem is that he hasn't learned to trust me enough yet. When I read the post about approaching a scary situation with confidence I was trying to figure out exactly how I could do that without forcefully dragging him along because he WILL NOT let me lead him when he is afraid. He is perfectly happy to let me lead the way when he doesn't think there is danger but when he gets afraid he is a very different dog. I'm not even sure that dragging him along would work because he can chew through leashes. I am going to get him a stronger leash today and hopefully that will stop him from being able to run like he has.

I am cautiously and hopefully inoffensively asking if your advice still applies after reading more about him. If it does then I'll do it.
 

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Never drag or force him. He sounds excessively fearful and frankly, I would skip the walks out where you will run into people or other dogs for the time being and work with him at home where he's relatively comfortable and able to think. When he gets into that panicy feeling, he's not going to be able to take in anything that you would hope for.....like noticing your confidence, noticing that the people that he meets are really OK...no. He's completely in flight mode....the autonomic nervous system is taking over at that point and there is very little cortex kind of thinking. His physiological response is heightened...blood pressure, heart rate, adrenalin etc is all raised. It's not going to do him any good and each time he is this freaked out will only perpetuate his fear IMO.

If he were my dog, I'd continue playing with him at home with the kids if that is who he is comfortable and happy with and let it sink in that life is getting good, build trust, teach him a few obedience tricks and work on his confidence and trust.

I know that we think of walks as being the ultimate thing to do with dogs. Most dogs adore walks and it's good exercise and socialization. However, in your dogs case, I would stay at home at least for the time being....later maybe adding a friend coming over and then another friend. Always give him a route of escape if he feels he needs one. No force.

This is likely going to be a gradual and slow process. When a dog is this damaged, it takes a lot to change his mind. He has to be cautious to survive. That's what is in his mind.

Try to remember to associate all the things he does which show more "bravery" and other behavior you like with good treats, quiet praise and whatever else he likes. Tie the things together. Read up on clicker training. It might be fun for him. You might have to muffle the sound of the clicker with a piece of cotton taped around it, but other than that, it is very good for insecure dogs. Keep us posted. I commend you on your dedication to this little dog. So many people would give up on him. If anyone has a chance to bring this little soul around, it's you.
 

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Hi Copiuos, Congratulations on your new rescue! When dealing with fear and anxiety, in a dog, you'll do what several have suggested. Adjorts' and Doberluv hit the nail on the head by stating that the dog needs some time to bond with you and time spent on training before taking him into situations in which you have no control of him. Spending 2 weeks teaching him a sit stay, watch me" and "leave it", will make a world of difference the next time you take him out. You need to be able to engage his brain well before the adrenaline starts to spike. Once he's learned "sit" in a front position and a heel position, practicing his stay and watch me at home, take it outside. He needs to learn to build confidence in the fact that while he's in public, on leash, he's working. And as long as he stays focused on you and continues working, there's nothing that's going to "get him". He needs to be able to hold a sit stay and understand "leave it" command, in order to stop the flipping and struggling when in public. You're going to jack pot him (feed those food rewards quickly) for every second he's seated, as a person or dog passes. Keep him in a seated position and give command leave it, if he starts to turn his head toward distraction. It's really important you have his attention here and you're quick to be ready to place him back in his "sit", as soon as you see he's spotted the distraction from a distance. This is a lot to ask of a dog like him, so you have to teach these exercises in an environment in which he's sure to succeed first, home! Spend the next 2 weeks working daily on this. Go for a car ride. Have friends over that he's allowed to interact with, but skip the park and walks away from your property until you've done some training. You can also go to the health food store and buy Bachs Rescue Remedy. For some dogs it takes the edge off in stressful situations. You can read up on it on-line. Using this during your first month of training in public, a good 1" leather lead, high value treats, (liver, chicken, steak) and creating a bond through obedience training, should help teach this pup appropriate behavior soon.
 

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Never drag or force him. He sounds excessively fearful and frankly, I would skip the walks out where you will run into people or other dogs for the time being and work with him at home where he's relatively comfortable and able to think. When he gets into that panicy feeling, he's not going to be able to take in anything that you would hope for.....like noticing your confidence, noticing that the people that he meets are really OK...no. He's completely in flight mode....the autonomic nervous system is taking over at that point and there is very little cortex kind of thinking. His physiological response is heightened...blood pressure, heart rate, adrenalin etc is all raised. It's not going to do him any good and each time he is this freaked out will only perpetuate his fear IMO.
Agreed 100%.

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If someone would clue me in on the best way to teach him these things I'll start with him right away. I have lots of doggy treats and I'm ready to help him right away. I understand what "sit" and "stay" are but I don't know what "watch me" or "leave it" means.
 

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