TDI Dogs

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  1. xpaeanx

    xpaeanx Active Member

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    Does anyone on here have a TDI dog or something similar? I have decided that I want to get a puppy as my first "conformation" dog, and so looking at breeder's websites... It looks like I will be waiting somewhere around a yr for a show quality puppy from a good breeder. In the mean time I thought it would be fun to teach keeda tricks. Then I had the idea that if I was going to teach her tricks, I might as well do something useful with them. So, I'm setting a goal, that this time next year I want Keeda to take the TDI test. I think she would love to be a TDI dog! I was just wondering if anyone can give me any insight? I know they take a test similiar to the AKC CGC, and I emailed an evaluator in my area to find out if there are any classes in the area they recommend.

    I just thought of this second question this morning, and whatever the answer is I still want her to become a TDI dog, but since it's all volunteer, do you think the hours I spend with her in hospitals and such will count as volunteer hours for school(need them when I apply for medschool... or grad if I go that way)?
     
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    borzoimom Couch Pototoe City

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    Zubin is a therapy dog. He is not listed as a TDI because that is a registry that leaves your information on a roster. However- the test is the same.
    He and Galina were invited to take the test by the hospital. Both went through with flying colors.
    He works with kids with cancer and I will say its very touching. Makes a huge difference with the kids, they love it, and he enjoys it as well. Only negative thing about it is that kids have learned that Zubin likes jello and the day he is coming, they all order it.. lol.
    Zubin has a special gift. I am not sure what he is sensing but he can pick up when a child is not doing well- regardless of what the doctors say. We have had kids that he lays his in their laps, almost not wanting to leave when the doctor said " the child was in remission"- and things uh happen. To Children that the doctors say are getting worse and Zubin is more himself- and later we find out the child suddenly was improving. How Zubin can tell, I have no idea. Its not the odor of cancer as all the kids have cancer- so maybe its feeling a " life force" or something ( grasps at straws..)
     
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    I've had three . Very rewarding !
     
  4. I would think that your hours with a Therapy dog would absolutely count as volunteer work.

    I say go for it!
     
  5. xpaeanx

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    yeah, I've already decided that I am going to do it. I was wondering if anyone can tell me about their expierences getting their dogs to become therapy dogs. I know it's going to be a little bit harder for Keeda because she's kinda DR and I haven't really worked with her with that bc... well... I don't really take her around a lot of dogs that she can't say hi too unless it's the vet, so it's never been much of an issue. And she's not DR in an aggressive way, she just gets very excited and wines when she's not allowed to say "hi" to the other dog. As soon as she can she doesn't care... but part of the test is to ignore other dogs... And then I was wondering what everyone thought about the hours counting as volunteer hours for school.... I don't see why they wouldn't...
     
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    Definately would count !
     
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    borzoimom Couch Pototoe City

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    They have to accept other dogs and the test starts at the door. In the last test I took, a person dropped a walker in the lobby as we came in to start. Remember- they are looking for unpredictability. We also had several hyper dogs there as well. Its normal for a sighthound to ignore hyper activity. The hardest part was actually being with a stranger and I had to leave the room. It was natural for my dogs to want to follow me. With sighthounds a sit is not required but they had stand quietly. I was happy they did. I suspected as such but nice to see they would.
    I have found it very rewarding.
     
  8. Actually, what I think they are looking for is a stable friendly dog who is trained and under control.

    The test I took was at a training center, and conducted in a ring, so there was no door really.
     
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    My wife keeps saying she wants to do this with Daisy. She'd pass the test right now, all it would take is for my wife to get off her butt and go do it!
     
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    At least they let someone hold the dog today . Back when , then had you tie your dog to something and leave the room . My female hated to be tied , and would either chew through a lead or drag . She was tied to a table leg , so I expected her to pull and drag . She didn't ...whew !
     
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    The TDI test at our training center was so much easier than the CGC test our trainer gives. For our trainer's version of the CGC test, we had to put our dog in a down/stay, drop the leash and leave the room for five minutes, and Strider had to do this with a female in heat in the room (he passed :D).

    They bring in an outside tester to do the TDI. You are not allowed to do any corrections during the test, so be careful.

    In the example my trainer gave, one lady failed because when she told her dog to sit it looked like she tugged on the leash to get the dog to do it. It's all hands off working during the test pretty much, though I think you can pet them. We did a lot of off leash heeling and when he did wear a leash draped it over my shoulders so my hands were not on it. She had all the students practice walking like that, getting the dog to respond solely to your voice and hand signals. There is no way the tester could mistake an accidental leash tug for a correction during the test then.

    The tester that would come in was a lot more lax in other ways than I expected. One lady had to tell her dog to sit 20 times before it finally did, and they passed. Our trainer is super strict! She wouldn't even let something like that pass basic obedience. The most important things are probably just socializing the heck out of them with wierd things, loud sudden noises, meeting people and being calm around other dogs.

    If banging pots together scares your dog, bang them when you feed him. If vaccum cleaners scare him, feed him delicious treats off the vaccum until he'll take them while it's on. Get some old crutches and crutch walk down the street with your dog on leash next to you, get an old walker and use that for a while. Let it scrape and bump everything. Try to get him around some wheelchairs. Every little thing you can do will help your chances of passing and help him be prepared to serve people.

    Good luck! I plan on getting every single dog I ever own certified through TDI, because I want any dog I live with to have a high enough level of training and a good enough temperament to be TDI material. Also, I have heard, but am not sure if this is 100% true, that some insurance companies will consider insuring owners with "dangerous" breeds if the individual dogs owned have their CGCs or are therapy dog certified.
     
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    from the site:

    http://www.tdi-dog.org/tditesting.html
    She definatly wouldn't pass right now:
    Test 1 would be hard bc she'd move to greet the stranger and be pet
    Test 6 would be hard bc I've never asked her to do this before, but with practice I think she would get it right away.
    Test 8 will be the hardest bc she will get all excited to see the other dog, and will sniff the dog with her tail wagging about a mile a minute. Once she sniffed the other dog though she'll go back to hanging out with me and she'll act like the other dog doesn't exist.

    Everything else will be easy.
     
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    Romy: Did they have to do off-leash testing for TDI? and where you inside/outside and inside a ring/fence or outside one?
     
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    No they were on leash for the TDI test, it was in an indoor arena. I think our trainer's way of doing things seems to be training for a step above the requirements, and then you'll be good to go for the actual test. :)

    Another thing that helps a lot is to take your dog out for a looong loooong run/walk/play session in a field etc. before the test. ;)
     
  15. requiring an unrestrained out of sight stay for a CGC or TDI is way beyond what is reasonable.

    WAY beyond.
     
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    yeah... I don't think I could get my dogs to do that.... ever....
     
  17. It can be done, Xp. It is a requirement of the Open class in AKC obedience. But it should not be asked of a dog at CGC or TDI levels IMO.

    :D
     
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    The TDI tester doesn't require it, my regular trainer does. It might be unreasonable for those tests...but it sure is handy and gives me peace of mind knowing that he can do it.

    Anyway, if someone taking her class couldn't do it and wanted their CGC, all they'd have to do it go to Petsmart and pay the $10 to get it there.
     
  19. It is SUPER to have a dog who is good on OOS stays. :D

    I just don't think it should be a requirement to pass the CGC test. Maybe it could go for extra credit. ;)
     
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    CharlieDog Rude and Not Ginger

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    If I can get Ozzy to do it, then you certainly can do it! It just takes time. I've been building Ozzys stay for just about all his life. He has a very nice, almost rock solid stay. Out of sight or not. The only thing that can make him break a stay now is a frisbee or a rabbit. We're still working on it. Also, he may not stay if there are new dogs around. He will stay when dogs he knows are running and playing around him, but with his DA/DR problems I'm doubtful he would hold a stay.
     

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