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Have you considered a Golden Retriever or mix? Much more laid back than a lab. Any golden rescue in your area ?? Anxious to know what you find too. PS if the long haired put you off ... my grandlabs shed more than my goldens.
Goldens are my absolute favorite breed, and I love so many different breeds. I've just had so many in classes and with only one exception, all have had the most beautiful temperments. The only thing that I wish was different about them is the amount of hair that they drop. I love the look and feel of their coats but I just wish they were the only ones wearing them:D Have you ever had any that shed noticeably less than others?
 

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I dont know about all of this now. I am really confused, because now I am thinking of getting a smaller breed but that is a puppy. My family would rather have a puppy, and since we havent had a dog in a really long time from previous experiences smaller breeds are easier to watch over and control. I know it seems like I am changing my mind really quick, it is just I will have this dog for the rest of its life so I want to make sure I am making the right decision. Here are the small breeds I was thinking of:
what are your suggestions?
shetland sheepdog
cavalier king charles spaniel
mini schnauzer
whippet
italien greyhound
toy poodle
mini bull terrier
jack russell terrier
forgot to add chihuahua
 
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Anyone? Also with the fact that there are going to be vet bills coming up soon. What is a cheap dog to maintain? Like a dog that wouldnt eat you out of house and home. I am inbetween the lines right now, are there any good dog breed selectors out there?
 

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I was considering a Cavalier before I got Izzy and Frodo, and in all of my research the info that kept coming up consistantly is that they do not like to be left at home without anybody there for long periods of time.

I don't know for sure, because I have never owned one, but this is what I've heard time and time again.

Just thought I'd throw that out there :).
 

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shetland sheepdog
We trained/bred/showed Shelties and in a whole, they are actually a fabulous dog to have. They don't eat much at all lol our two Shelties that we have not get a cup of food a day TOPS.. Jada doesn't even eat that on her best days lol Known health problems for them would be eye problems as well as hypothyroidism in their old age. Just make sure that you get one from a REPUTABLE breeder and you will more then likely not have to encur these issues. Its just that the Sheltie has become overbred almost and bad backyard breeders are creating problems for this breed. Also, do not over feed this breed as they are sensative to becoming overweight :) They are extremely smart and easy to train. Early socilization is essential to have a happy healthy puppy. They tend to be skittish if NOT socialized.

cavalier king charles spaniel
I dont know much about this breed to put anything down

mini schnauzer
This breed requires consistant clipping to keep its coat healthy etc. So either you learn to clip with clippers or you'd have to get a groomer to do that. This breed is generally healthy, BUT again watch out for the BYB. This breeds also known to become overweight if fed too much easily. These guys are fairly active little dogs as well!

whippet
I know that this breed is very sensative to the cold, so a sweater or something for them is essential when its cool out. Also try and keep them out of the rain when its cold, they will get a chill or a cold. I think the only things I can remember with this breed is that some can have a sensative stomach and require special foods. I believe this breed is prone to bloat as well.. correct me if Im' wrong though.

italien greyhound
haha they are too cute!This is a sensative breed that needs a gentle and consistant handler. They can be timid. I nkow that this breed is pretty good health wise, I know that before they are a year old, their bones are still developing etc etc and are fairly fragile so you have to watch.

toy poodle
They are adorable, there are a few members on the baord with this breed. They are very smart from what I have seen, because their bones are so tiny they can break them easier then other breeds. They are also abreed with a sensative stomach.


mini bull terrier
I dont think there is such a breed??

jack russell terrier
They are a very hardy little breed, veryvery active. I babysit two and they are off the wall when I first get there.. then they calm down and sleep beside me while I'm with them lol you have to train them young or they just dont "get it" when they are older lol They do try and please you though, but being a terrier do have their own little mind and are afraid to use it lol They are a smart breed though if you can put the training into it!!

chihuahua
Again, adorable lol but strong willed!Harder to house break then other breeds apparently.Make sure you socialize at an early age to avoid skitishness and aggresion. Because they are soo tiny they are prone to colds, stress. In pupphood they are vulnerable to fractures because of their small bones. Again, this breed CAN become overweight easily.
 

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Bull terrier (Miniture)

General Appearance
Strongly built, muscular, well balanced and active with a keen, determined and intelligent expression.

Characteristics
The Bull Terrier is the gladiator of the canine race, full of fire and courageous. A unique feature is a downfaced, egg-shaped head. Irrespective of size dogs should look masculine and bitches feminine.

Temperament
Of even temperament and amenable to discipline. Although obstinate is particularly good with people.

Head and Skull
Head long, strong and deep right to end of muzzle, but not coarse. Viewed from front egg-shaped and completely filled, its surface free from hollows or indentations. Top of skull almost flat from ear to ear. Profile curves gently downwards from top of skull to tip of nose which should be black and bent downwards at tip. Nostrils well developed and under-jaw deep and strong.

Eyes
Appearing narrow, obliquely placed and triangular, well sunken, black or as dark brown as possible so as to appear almost black, and with a piercing glint. Distance from tip of nose to eyes perceptibly greater than that from eyes to top of skull. Blue or partly blue undesirable.

Ears
Small, thin and placed close together. Dog should be able to hold them stiffly erect, when they point straight upwards.

Mouth
Teeth sound, clean, strong, of good size, regular with perfect, regular and complete scissor bite, i.e. upper teeth closely overlapping lower teeth and set square to the jaws. Lips clean and tight.

Neck
Very muscular, long, arched, tapering from shoulders to head and free from loose skin.

Forequarters
Shoulders strong and muscular without loading. Shoulder blades wide, flat and held closely to chest wall and have a very pronounced backward slope of front edge from bottom to top, forming almost a right angle with upper arm. Elbows held straight and strong, pasterns upright. Forelegs have strongest type of round, quality bone, dog should stand solidly upon them and they should be perfectly parallel. In mature dogs length of foreleg should be approximately equal to depth of chest.

Body
Body well rounded with marked spring of rib and great depth from withers to brisket, so that latter nearer ground than belly. Back short, strong with backline behind withers level, arching or roaching slightly over broad, well muscled loins. Underline from brisket to belly forms a graceful upward curve. Chest broad when viewed from front.

Hindquarters
Hindlegs in parallel when viewed from behind. Thighs muscular and second thighs well developed. Stifle joint well bent and hock well angulated with bone to foot short and strong.

Feet
Round and compact with well arched toes.

Tail
Short, set on low and carried horizontally. Thick at root, it tapers to a fine point.

Gait/Movement
When moving appears well knit, smoothly covering ground with free, easy strides and with a typical jaunty air. When trotting, movement parallel, front and back, only converging towards centre line at faster speeds, forelegs reaching out well and hindlegs moving smoothly at hip, flexing well at stifle and hock, with great thrust.

Coat
Short, flat, even and harsh to touch with a fine gloss. Skin fitting dog tightly. A soft textured undercoat may be present in winter.

Colour
For White, pure white coat. Skin pigmentation and markings on head not to be penalised. For Coloured, colour predominates; all other things being equal, brindle preferred. Black, brindle, red, fawn and tricolour acceptable. Tick markings in white coat undesirable. Blue and liver highly undesirable.

Size
Height should not exceed 35.5 cms (14ins). There should be an impression of substance to size of dog. There is no weight limit. Dog should at all times be balanced

Faults
Any departure from the foregoing points should be considered a fault and the seriousness with which the fault should be regarded should be in exact proportion to its degree and its effect upon the health and welfare of the dog.

Note
Male animals should have two apparently normal testicles fully descended into the scrotum.
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Odd.. I have never heard of them..

Are they recognized in the CKC?? lol

I'm in Canada... I know that the AKC recognizes more breeds then the CKC..
 

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Sorry i dont know about Canada :( that standard i posted was from here in the UK :cool:

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Odd.. I have never heard of them..

Are they recognized in the CKC?? lol

I'm in Canada... I know that the AKC recognizes more breeds then the CKC..
 

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WOW!! thank you so much for all of this great info!From what I read I really like the shetland sheepdog. How are they on excercise? Since they are herding dogs. My yard would be considered medium-large size and I'm pretty excited because I just got it all clean up and green, that is a big deal down here because of the drought we are in. So how often did you feed your shetland sheepdog? Also I am pretty much going to be at my house all summer so I have all the time in the world to dedicate to the puppy. I looked into the border terrier, but they are hard to come by where I live. Also was considering miniature pincher, but they are really hard to train I hear.
 

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You can PM me anytime if you have any Questions about the Shelties :)

We've got over 20 years experience with the breed where showing and training are concerned! :)

How are they on excercise?
They need consistant exercise daily. Ie. long walks, playing at the park. Also, because they are an intelligent breed they need to be mentally stimulated as well or they grow bored and find other things to do that are fun.. ie digging, chewing.. lol


My yard would be considered medium-large size
that sounds like a great size yard for a Sheltie! :) As long as there are "fun things" in the yard to play on. They LOVE to try out new things with someone there to help them :) For example, we have a bunch of agility equipment set up in the backyard and we always find the Shelties and Riot playing with it.. jumping the jumps on their own, going through the tunnel etc etc.
Its also mentally stimulating to them to see neww things in their yard as well. BUT if you do change something in the yard.. they WILL notice lmao They are a breed that likes consistancy as well and a routine.

So how often did you feed your shetland sheepdog?
When they were puppies they were getting fed 3X a day once in the morning after they went outside to potty, once in the afternoon after playing and then once in the evening then they are put outside for a bit and then come in to sleep.

Also I am pretty much going to be at my house all summer so I have all the time in the world to dedicate to the puppy.
Thats good! Shelties tend to be a "one person" type of dog. They will listen and such to others, but they are extremely devoted to one person normally. That is the person who feeds them, plays with them brings them places etc.
I would personally start training when they were young pups as well. We waited a bit too long with our two we have right now and we are finding their "stubborn" side coming out lol

Also was considering miniature pincher, but they are really hard to train I hear.
Yes, this breed is a harder to train then the Shelties.
 

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Wow this sounds like a great dog. Thanks for all the info. Do you think I could pm you the supplies I was going to get? Such as what type of food is best for shelties, and all of that? Also you said before 1 cup a day, how do you break that up into 3 feedings? Does that make sense?
 

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yup you can PM me any questions that you have about them.

MAKE SURE you get your pup from a reputable breeder that has obedience AND conformation titles.. If any titles, get obedience if you aren't interested in showing :)
Titled parents with health checks are KEY!
 

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summerriot I know this may upset you because of all the info you have given me about shelties, but I found an old english sheepdog up for adoption that is only 8 months old, houstrained and has a little obediance training, and caught up on his shots and all of that. I just have some general questions about this breed. How much do these dogs eat a day? What would be the best food for them? How much excercise do they need a day? Since it is pretty much summer is the pup going to get really hot with all of his fur? Could I shave the fur some of the fur off to make him cooler? I am just considering this dog I do not know if I am going to get him. Is there anything else that I should know?
 

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No offense, but it seems like you are just bouncing around to different breeds as soon as they are available. You should find a breed that fits you to a T, and then look for a dog. I am speaking from personal experiences in the past, it's better to wait and get the perfect dog, then to get the first one you can and find out down the road that it isn't the right breed/dog for you.

I hope your not offended as this wasn't my intent, I was just making an observation :) .
 

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No I am not offended at all because I have noticed it too :(. But I really havent found a purebred dog that really fits me besides the sheltie. And I just wanted to broaden my horizon pretty much. Does that make sense?
 

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Yes I makes perfect sense, and I understand, I just wouldn't want you to buy a dog on impulse and regret it later.

As far as broadening your horizon, that's awesome because the perfect breed might be out there, you just haven't found it yet :) . And a couple months of research is definitaly worth the wonderful years that you'll have with the perfect dog :D .

It took me 4 months of research to decide that a corgi was really what I wanted, but it was definitaly worth it ;) .
 

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Yep you know what might be good is a dog breed selector you know those things you can fill out online that you answer questions on and it will tell you the right breed for you? Does anyone know any good ones?
 

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