Speaking of stock guardians

Laurelin

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Okay this is really really a new area for me to even consider but anyways...

My family just bought a bunch of land outside of town. So we're moving from 2 acres to almost 30. We have lots of predators in town. I see bobcats and coyotes all the time where I am right now and in the neighbor's fields with their cows and goats even. When visiting the land we bought there are coyote tracks all over.

At this point the plan isn't to have any stock animals, just horses, dogs (an old mutt and the papillons), and cats. So my dad is a bit concerned about the safety of the small pets and all the coyotes. Is it feasible to have a LGD without a real flock other than the horses and other dogs? So would it be weird to have the 'flock' essentially be a flock of papillons? (That sounds kind of ridiculous) My dad grew up on a farm and is toying with the idea of some sort of stock but as of now it's not a major part of the plan.

I live in college so it won't really be affecting me all that much but I was sent to research some. It'll be over a year before it's done though so we have time to think it through.

ETA: He has to do this AFTER I move out, doesn't he? lol It sounds pretty much perfect. Horses, trails, a garden, main house and a guest cabin, a pond with fish in it, and lots of dogs.
 

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Teehee, I came in the "breeds" to see what chaz already has on LGDs and here you are :D *going to be watching this thread*
 

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a lgd will guard any "livestock" they are raised with, raise puppy lgd with the paps and your family the lgd will want to be with the paps/family and protect them...
put the puppy out with the horses they will be the primary flock and hell protect them...

genetally any of the lgd's are a good choice but great pyrs seem to be the favorite "beginner" lgd followed by anatolians, ive heard equally good and bad on maremmas, CAS and the like i think are more dog than most people want...but theres no reason a lgd couldnt be a "papillion" guardian :)
 

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Great Pyrs are roamers. How far they roam away from your property will depend partly on whether your house is in the middle of the property or on the road. This may not be a problem if you don't have neighbors nearby. Anatolians are great defenders, but can NEVER be tied out, even for a few minutes. You need to really research the breeds before deciding on one. LGD's guard by barking. The barking disrupts the wolf or coyote's stalking pattern. Some LGD's are more aggressive and will run off an intruder. Many people use a llama or large donkey.
 

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To go along with the barking Maura talked about, I've heard many people talk about how "soothing" it is to hear a LGD bark. But, that means they can bark a while during the night.
 

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I used to have a Saint Bernard that was protective of my smaller dogs. I'm not too sure if they are exactly what you are looking for but maybe you can do more research and see if it fits.
 
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My Komondor Mac protects the house/family and our chihuahuas without a problem. Mac was raised with them so he's fine our chis.

 

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Okay we're researching still. We're going to set up game cameras on the land to see how much activity we have. When we went hiking there today there was a TON of fresh coyote poop and tracks.

The back neighbors have donkeys there too. My dad is seriously considering a LGD or donkeys at this point. He doesn't really want a pyr though.

Anyone have much info on Anatolians?
 

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Growing up, our neighbors had an anatolian/GSD mix. She was a great dog. As a puppy she was a big boisterous girl. Liked to be active, was friendly with all children she met but wasn't impressed with strangers. They also had a chi and she got along great with him.
 

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I am going to highly suggest a donkey or a mule as I have seen this buggers in action. They are terrifying when they are mad and it shows. They've got a real aggressive side to them. My friend rescued this donkey that was on his last leg and it was the best investment he has ever made. He hasn't lost a single sheep or calf since. He makes that horrible obnoxious noise, charges, attacks etc. The only unfortunate thing is he also goes after the neighbors dogs who are pretty much harmless.
 

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