So, the Oprah show...
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I thought it was pretty good. I'm glad they mentioned that responsible breeders do exist. Of course a lot of people will buy a BYB puppy as long as it's in good condition, but none of the BYBs I know would ever take a pup back years later.
I have to admit, I cried. A lot. The euthanization part especially made tears come down.
It was great to hear Oprah say she's a changed woman and would always rescue from now on, and that because of that show 3 of the Oprah show staff adopted from a shelter they featured.
I am hopeful that this will make a difference. I remember when Oprah said "I will never eat a burger again" and the sales dramatically dropped. She has a lot of influence.
I have to admit, I cried. A lot. The euthanization part especially made tears come down.
It was great to hear Oprah say she's a changed woman and would always rescue from now on, and that because of that show 3 of the Oprah show staff adopted from a shelter they featured.
I am hopeful that this will make a difference. I remember when Oprah said "I will never eat a burger again" and the sales dramatically dropped. She has a lot of influence.
True ..... and I wanted to keep my line going , so only bred with supply and demand . All were S/N except for one female pick of litter who went on to show championship with my mentor . Most of my buyers just wanted well bred Goldens for family dogs ..... which mine were known for . I had a buyer from Chicago many years ago who was asked if their dog was a Hawthorn Hill dog ! Mine were so la-te -da dogs .
I actually thought it was well done. I cried during most of it... heck, I cried at the beginning when they showed that little tribute to Oprah's dog (at least that's what it looked like it was, I had just woken up lol).
Was it perfect? I don't know. But considering a LOT of people really have no idea about puppy mills, it really was a good way to at least make them aware. And hey, people do whatever Oprah says, so I'm sure they'll listen to her on this too.
I was glad they at least mentioned they have no problem with *responsible* breeders. I don't think it could be argued that it was a bad show.
Was it perfect? I don't know. But considering a LOT of people really have no idea about puppy mills, it really was a good way to at least make them aware. And hey, people do whatever Oprah says, so I'm sure they'll listen to her on this too.
I was glad they at least mentioned they have no problem with *responsible* breeders. I don't think it could be argued that it was a bad show.
Well... I don't like Oprah so I didn't watch the show. I am glad that it shed some light on puppymills etc etc. Although I really do have a BIG issue with them blaming the Amish. YES part of the Amish population run puppymills but it just makes it sound like all Amish are evil animal haters. it just really rubs me wrong because if someone had made such a generalization of Blacks... she would have been all up in arms about it.
But it's nice idea for a show.
But it's nice idea for a show.
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I LOVED the show. It was as good as I thought it was going to be. Well done in my opinion. Was it perfect? Probably not. I liked the part where the AKC sent a little note saying that its the owners responsibility to find a RESPONSIBLE breeder.
I though shrimp was a chinese crested too. His turn around was amazing. Beautiful looking little doggie. So sweet.
I REALLY liked the fact that they said 99% of pet shops get their dogs from puppy mills. Maybe people will get it through their heads now. People think that just because their dog has "papers" that they come from a responsible breeder.
One thing that I didnt really care for is how they made pit bulls look like guard dogs. They showed a barking pit bull while mentioning that people want guard dogs from shelters... not blind or old dogs. Lets put pitties in a bad light. Not a biggie I guess, I'm just being picky.
I though shrimp was a chinese crested too. His turn around was amazing. Beautiful looking little doggie. So sweet.
I REALLY liked the fact that they said 99% of pet shops get their dogs from puppy mills. Maybe people will get it through their heads now. People think that just because their dog has "papers" that they come from a responsible breeder.
One thing that I didnt really care for is how they made pit bulls look like guard dogs. They showed a barking pit bull while mentioning that people want guard dogs from shelters... not blind or old dogs. Lets put pitties in a bad light
. Not a biggie I guess, I'm just being picky.I wish they would have talked more about what constitutes a "good breeder". They kept saying things like "don't go to a pet store, go to a shelter, and if you REALLY want a puppy, go to a 'good breeder' and see the place for yourself". Well that's all fine and dandy, but there's a lot of BAD breeders who don't keep their dogs in filth, who don't confine then to wire cages for their entire lives, but are just as detrimental to the breed (and to the pet over population problem) as the puppymillers they showed.
They said good breeders always take back their dogs, and then Oprah made a comment about screening and signing a contract. I wonder how many people watched this show and congratulated themselves for purchasing from a "good breeder" simply because the dogs didn't live in squalor and they signed a contract. That was the underlying message that I was afraid of, BUT, I think a lot of people will walk away from that show now knowing that pet stores DO get dogs from puppymills.
The issue of good breeders, versus bad breeders, versus rescue just couldn't be covered in an hour. It's as simple as that. I didn't want to stand up and clap after the show was done, but it was alright I guess.
They said good breeders always take back their dogs, and then Oprah made a comment about screening and signing a contract. I wonder how many people watched this show and congratulated themselves for purchasing from a "good breeder" simply because the dogs didn't live in squalor and they signed a contract. That was the underlying message that I was afraid of, BUT, I think a lot of people will walk away from that show now knowing that pet stores DO get dogs from puppymills.
The issue of good breeders, versus bad breeders, versus rescue just couldn't be covered in an hour. It's as simple as that. I didn't want to stand up and clap after the show was done, but it was alright I guess.
Perhaps we should write to Oprah asking her to do a follow-up show on what a good breeder is, and include some of the information we find important, such as health testing from CERF and OFA? Did anybody see if there was an "after the show" thing from this episode that covered anything else? (I just checked oxygen to see if it happened to be on, but they're showing Pride & Prejudice right now, so I imagine if there was one I won't be seeing it.)
I'm still highly skeptical if anything on the whole will change from this.
I'm still highly skeptical if anything on the whole will change from this.
I don't think it would have been a good move to go into what makes a really good breeder on a show about puppy mills. It tends to confuse people and I think that would have been too much info for people at one time. A follow up show on "well we've shown you puppy mills but how can you be sure your breeder has you and your dog's best interest at heart" sorta thing. I think maybe we could get her to do something like that, I don't think she actually knows very much so maybe educating her ourselves (assuming she reads all her e-mails) and telling some stories, suggesting people she might have on to show what a good breeder is (anyone have any ideas?) could sway her a little.
Personally I think it's great if she stops people from going to puppymills even if that does mean those people are gonna go to BYBs, I'd rather them there than at a puppy mill. Baby steps.
Personally I think it's great if she stops people from going to puppymills even if that does mean those people are gonna go to BYBs, I'd rather them there than at a puppy mill. Baby steps.