so Oprah is having Wayne Pacelle

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  1. HoundedByHounds

    HoundedByHounds Oh, it's *you*

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    on the Friday show...he's prez of HSUS if folks are drawing a blank. I am disappointed...PeTA lite...ay ya ya.
     
  2. sparks19

    sparks19 I'd rather be at Disney

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    I can't say I'm surprised. lol
     
  3. Dakotah

    Dakotah Kotah BEAR

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    Agree with Tanya.
     
  4. elegy

    elegy overdogged

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    wow. this is me. being unsurprised.

    blech.
     
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    Shes trying yall..
     
  6. Jules

    Jules Magic, motherf@%$*#!

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    [sarcasm on] Yay! Goooo Oprah![sarcasm off/]
     
  7. HoundedByHounds

    HoundedByHounds Oh, it's *you*

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    SarahFair New Member

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    Well I just dont know what to say about that..
     
  9. Bahamutt99

    Bahamutt99 Dafuq?

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    Too bad. Another opportunity missed.
     
  10. HoundedByHounds

    HoundedByHounds Oh, it's *you*

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    I wonder if Wayne-O will bring along his friend and co worker from ALF? I am sure he'd have many enlightening things to say LOL.

    And more Oprah spurred donation money for H$U$ to spend on the shelters they....erm...don't.....actuallyrunnevermind.

    Nah I hope more people rescue...that'd be great. I also hope they can get that message out without slamming people who breed dogs reponsibly. I doubt it...but maybe they can :)
     
  11. Laurelin

    Laurelin I'm All Ears

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    I'm seriously doubting that too, Gina. I had hoped there'd be some good coming from this, and maybe there still will be. The more I hear about it though, the more I cringe. Maybe I'm wrong.
     
  12. Laurelin

    Laurelin I'm All Ears

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    Here's what I have on it:

     
  13. HoundedByHounds

    HoundedByHounds Oh, it's *you*

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    The other gentleman has an axe to grind against the Penn puppy mills and more power to him I guess...but their #1 point here is flawed. I know many many folks with more than one breed...including myself...that I would not consider anything but reputable.
    http://www.mainlinerescue.com/advocacy/puppy-mills/how_to_spot_a_puppy_mill

    Generalizations like this hurt good breeders...*sigh*
     
  14. Baxter'smybaby

    Baxter'smybaby swimming upstream

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    shoot-- I was so hoping this would be good coverage--I guess tomorrow's show will tell...
     
  15. HoundedByHounds

    HoundedByHounds Oh, it's *you*

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    noludoru Bored Now.

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    Maybe I wont watch it. Sound like my blood pressure would go through the roof.. although for me that's not necessarily a bad thing, lol!
     
  17. Beanie

    Beanie Clicker Cult Coordinator

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    I don't get it... when a pet store opened here and a bunch of people rallied and started complaining, writing letters to the newspaper, so on and so forth... we were told that we're stupid extremist dirty liberal tree-huggers, there's no "proof" that the pet store was getting from a puppy mill, dogs are just animals so who cares, the dogs at the store LOOK healthy and they're all CUTE...

    But now "liberals" LOVE a good cause and a show linking puppy mills to pet stores is going to be really really bad...?

    I don't even know what to think anymore. I have a feeling that this show, even if it goes into a puppymill and shows the nasty dirty stuff, is STILL going to be passed off by people as "sensationalism," and people will STILL say there's "no proof" that Pet Store A is actually related to all that "bad stuff on Oprah's show."
    I can't see it really doing any harm OR good, on a whole, from where I'm standing.
     
  18. youhavenoidea

    youhavenoidea I love my Weimaheiny!

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    I understand your frustration, and do agree that although attention to actual mills and irresponsible breeders is SUPER important, this particular "expose" is selfishly going to be used as a tool for a few close-minded individuals to propagate their "canine-dictatorship".

    We're talking about individuals who think that crate-training is abuse, EVERY animal should be spayed / neutered, there is no such thing as a responsible breeder, and that we as citizens shouldn't even have the right to own pets.

    I'm going to watch, and give it a chance, I just have this foreboding feeling that the potential to do more harm than good is very real.

    I have more disdain for millers than anyone I know, and would never buy from a petstore or shady breeder. I absolutely agree that something needs to be done.

    Just in THIS particular situation, I smell a sneaky agenda.

    And it stinks.
     
  19. youhavenoidea

    youhavenoidea I love my Weimaheiny!

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    OK; I watched the show and I have to say, I am absolutely pleasantly surprised.

    Not only was the focus kept to the true issue at hand, but they even quoted a statement from the AKC, and made mention (albeit very quickly) that there is nothing wrong with RESPONSIBLE breeders.

    For something that could have been spun in a completely different way, I am happy to eat my words on this one.
     

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