Sigh, eyes- possible retinal detatchment

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  1. MafiaPrincess

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    Smudge's right eye started to go a little cloudy 3 days ago. Got into the vet today. They rule out glaucoma, and uveitis. Intra-occular pressure is okay.

    But.. they aren't sure what is wrong. His eye is cloudy like a cataract, but the fluid is billowy and it is not a cataract.. They think it might be lens luxation, or retinal detachment.

    I have steroidal drops for him. I have a course of antibiotics to start tomorrow in case. The vet is posting photos on a vet share board. She expects to have an answer from an ophthalmologist in about 24 hours.

    She hopes that the steroids will at least make it easier to see something in his eye, and that an ophthalmologist will have a clearer opinion.

    He can't see clearly out of the eye. If he has a retinal detachment.. unlike a human it isn't fixable... and I'm upset and worried.

    But I've vetted him and now I have to wait. Anyone have experience with canine retinal detachment, lens luxation and other horrible canine eye issues?
     
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    I have nothing to really advise you... Sorry :(

    My cat had double retina detachment, I don't want to worry you, but she had one eye removed as it became painful, but still has the other, although is totally blind.

    It happened in one first, and that was removed. It didn't happen in the other for awhile after that.

    Like I say, her first eye was very painful, so if you think he has it, I imagine he'd be hurting. Is it watery or sore?
     
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    He is in no pain. He is totally himself. He's always had eye gooeys, but he has no more than is normal for him. It isn't excessively watery..

    Other than the fact it is cloudy and I can now tell he can't see correctly out of it.. there is nothing 'wrong'.

    I already feared the worst going into the vet.. The fact he couldn't see I spazzed. I'm worried that they aren't sure what it is yet :(
     
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    I can't actually remember how they diagnosed it in my cat now... It was that long ago.... Not much help.

    Just wait for the appointments, there's no point worrying as it could be something totally different.

    And if it is detachment.... Well... It sucks. But you will both be ok :)
     
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    I didn't know retinal detachments in dogs weren't correctable... poor guy. Cataracts in dogs is the only thing I've had any experience with. Hopefully the ophthalmologist, being a specialist, will have some ideas and be able to tell you more... I've heard it's not terribly uncommon for vets to not be super up on vision problems unless that is their focus, so I wouldn't be too worried that the vet doesn't know for sure just yet. ((((HUGS))))
     
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    Well, I know human medicine and not canine.. If it is a retinal issue... A retinal tear in a human gives them 'floaters'. Black splotchies. They can't fix that.. But it may be the precursor to a detachment. If it seems like a curtain goes over your eye, likely you detached. You have under 24 hours to get it repaired.

    Apparently detachment in a dog can lead to cloudy eye- doesn't happen too much in people. But a dog can't tell you they can't see.. so you wouldn't know when the 24 hour window is.

    I'm hoping an ophthalmologist will have an okay prognosis. I feel like an @ss.. as all I can think of is if he can't see, no agility, etc. Though my primary concern IS his health. This came out of nowhere *sigh* and I've been so worried.. and now I'm possibly more worried..

    And I was pulled over by a cop on my way home.. No ticket, just a warning as I have a cracked windshield I can't afford to replace... And then he though my car smelled like weed.. OMG. There is no weed near my car, ever.. Stuck his head WAY in and went oh.. not weed.. Coconut..
     
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    I haven't seen a retinal detachment in a dog, but in cats the eye looks outwardly totally normal, not cloudy. It's only when you examine the interior of the eye with an instrument that you see it. In cats I've almost always seen it associated with high blood pressure, and once the pressure is normal the retinas have a fairly good chance of reattaching on their own IME.

    I'm glad pressures were normal, glaucoma is one of the first things I'd think about in a cocker. If the cloudy, billowy fluid is in the front part of the eye... I'd probably still be thinking about some kind of inflammatory process. It will be interesting to see what the ophtho says.
     
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    The vet checked his BP though she told me systemic hypertension is more of a cat problem, it can sometimes be seen in dogs. I was worried about glaucoma..

    I gave him his first steroid drops just now. I would be so freaking thrilled if the inflammation decreases and his eye is more normal and whatever is wrong is fixable...
     
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    I have no advice to offer...

    But lots of vibes for poor Moo!!!

    I squish him with love from afar <3
     
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    Please come squish him Moth!!!
     
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    Oh no, I'm so sorry you and Smudge are going through this :(. I really admire him.

    The only issue I have experience with is Progressive Retinal Atrophy, but that presents very differently. I have definitely gone through almost a 'grieving' stage for Romeo's vision and it upsets me a lot.

    Keep us updated! I hope they figure out what's going on :(.
     
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    He turns 6 on Sunday :( So I'm super stressed that he may be losing his vision at such a young age.. My babies are getting older and I want it to stop :(

    I hope to hear good news from the vet tomorrow.. I have fingers and toes crossed. While you shouldn't have a favourite.. I so have a favourite and it's Smudge....
     
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    Crossing 18 pairs of legs here for good news tomorrow. (((((hugs)))))
     
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    Our Collie Sierra has this, along with CEA, her eyes look normal, she has cataracts in each eye too, which are also not visible to the naked eye. She has very limited vision but has learned to live with it over the years. Our ophthalmology believes it is something our girl has had since birth ( she's a rescue)
     
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    I can't help you very much with your current problem, I don't know much about it. But I can relate on a related issue, with my Maddie.

    She is totally blind in the right eye due to a dog fight that caused the eye to come out of its socket. They vets were able to get the eye back in, but she is blind in that eye. I thought it was the worst thing that could ever happen, and I continued to have nightmares not only of the attack, but also of her losing sight in her good eye as well :(
    Then I fostered Tara, who was totally blind. I truly believe she was sent to me to ease some of my anxiety, as she was so happy and well adapted, I can't even explain it.


    The vet told me that Maddie's peripheral vision would definitely be effected, and she may have problems with things like stairs, catching a toy or treat in the air, no more playing around with agility, etc.
    I am happy to report that even though she is for sure 100% blind in that eye, she has proven the vet wrong on all accounts, and continues to thrive and do well. I worry about her other eye, of course, especially now that she's going to be 11 :( but we're okay

    (((((Hugs))))) poor Moo! i sure can relate. I hope its nothing serious! but if it is, it will be okay. <3 Give him a smooch and a cookie from me :) Message me if you need anything!
     
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    Thank you Brattina :)

    He's my baby. I love them all but he's my puppy... And being possibly partially blind at 6 makes me want to cry... He's all happy and wiggly and himself. It's my freaked outness totally.. not his. He'll still be my baby.. but the brokeness has me all spastic.

    Also has me upset that it might have been more stoppable depending wtf it is if I'd taken him in on day one, not day 3..

    It's nice to know even if he does lose vision he'll likely be okay... Thank you hunny :)
     
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    And the diagnosis appears to be quick forming cataract :/

    Opthamologist suggested cataract via diabetes. I did a BGT at home, and he's normal. Vet has suggested cataracts may form quicker than people realize.. most dog owners don't look at their dogs I guess the way I do mine.. I noticed the 3 days pre vet visit his eye was 'off'..

    Not sure how I feel about this as his vision won't be coming back.. thankful nothing else seems to be wrong....
     
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    *hugs*

    I am glad he is okay... Sorry about his sight, but I am pretty sure he will just take it in stride :)

    Just love him and squish him lots!
     
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    ((((((((hugs))))))))
     
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    Oh, sorry to hear that...
     

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