Shooting dogs?

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^^^^ I think you did the right thing given your situation.

But I think you should tell your vet, he's an asshat and then I might add where he can shove it. $150 to put a dog down PLUS price of cremation is just STUPID! The drug is NOT that expensive!
 

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No, because I'm a bit worried that one of our trolls is going to come in this thread due to recent events.

I agree with what Gina said in her first post. I had neighbors who literally couldn't afford euthanasia and their old, crippled dog died of hypothermia instead of a bullet to the head. Frankly I think they should have shot her anyways, or found some way to pay for euthanasia before then, but it wasn't my decision and the dog's wellbeing wasn't important to them.
No, I don't think you need to worry about the certain troll that's on your mind ;)
 

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I think as long as the dog is suffering and put down in some way is hard but the right thing to do. I can't stand seeing people keeping their dogs or other pet alive while it suffers so much. I feel thats selfish on their part. I have seen dogs who are blind almost deaf, lost sense of direction ,having tumors, years old, can't hold their potty, becoming aggressive and obviously miserable , I think its mean if they keep them around.
 

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I think what it comes down to is sometimes a bullet isn't instantly fatal, any number of things could go wrong and the dog could end up suffering more than they would by an injection. That's my view at least, I really won't judge others for their decisions but it's not something I'd ever condone.
 

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I don't have a problem with it; there are much worse ways to die. When my mom was a kid in the 60's she lived in a rural area and that's the way it was done. My grandfather had to shoot one of her dogs once.

With Coco, we had the mobile vet come out and do it at the house. If you can afford it, a mobile vet is a good thing.
 

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I never saw anybody seizure and i have been through quiet a few. Not that i am arguing with you. Just stating my experience. Now they give them a tranq first but back then they didnt'. It was so fast, my mother says the same thing. Cats would be in my arms and then gone like that. IT is exactly what i want for Mary i promise you this, no one is putting a bullet in her when her time comes. I will come up with the money one way or another.

I just had Eddie pts this summer and it was fast for him too.
I wish i could ask for such a kindess.:(
 

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I've never seen a dog seizure from a euthanasia either. I suppose it depends on what drug is used. A drug that puts them to sleep by destroying action potentials could cause a seizure (KCl). A drug that puts them to sleep by just making them go brain-dead then suffocate probably wouldn't cause a seizure (Pentobarbital or thiopental). In fact it can be used to stop a seizure.
 

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My best friend shot 2 of her dogs. One was hit by a car and DRUG herself back to thier farm. Her husbands friend came out and shot her. The burried her after. Also thier old dog Baxter was 16 and it was the 26th time in a month he got into a procupine and the vet bills were out of this world. He had quills in his eye even it was that bad this time. He was shot and burried. Would i shoot my dogs? No. But I dont condem them for doing it.
 

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I agree Smkie ....all of mine went quickly and peacefully . Each time I ask my vet if they would do that for me .!! I wasn't with my Chip . He was tranquilized for his ultra sound when they called me that there was no hope and he'd have 2 weeks at the best . I decided then that I had to let him go . She asked if I wanted to come and say goodbye . I told her that I had said goodbye that morning and I'd come in a wreck ! She understood and said that he still had my lipstick kiss on his nose . Chip loved her and she him . I knew he was in loving arms and the faster the better for him . Especially since he was still sedated . Had I gone , he would have gotten excited and I would have been a basket case . I still wish I could have held him one more time !
 

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Ok...I will speak from experience on this one.
I do not think it's inhumane if you do it right. We had a 15 yr old basset hound female with cancer (inoperable cancer in her spine with a large tumor) that was suffering severely. The vet wanted in excess of $150 to put her to sleep at the office, and then of course the cremation fees and such because they won't let you bury an animal that has been euthanized as it is a danger to local wildlife.
So my husband and I talked it over. She was his dog, and he couldn't do it, and I sure as hell didn't WANT to do it...but I felt so bad because of how she was suffering and I knew there was no way we could afford that extra $150 for at least another 2 weeks. That was the breaking point, I wasn't about to watch her suffer for 2 more weeks because of it, and the vet wouldn't take a payment plan.
Was it the right thing to do, I think it was. I took her out to my grandparents ranch, she got to run around for a little bit and was petted by everyone. I took her way out behind the house on a walk and did it out there...I used a 9mm with a hollow point and directly to the back of the head, I can tell you it was instant and I won't go into details but it did an incredible amount of internal damage. We then buried her out there.

Would I do it again, probably not unless it was 100% necessary. I couldn't even cry for hours after I'd done it and when I did I broke down. It's been almost a year and I still try not to think about it because it still upsets me, but I know it was the most humane thing I could do for her.

I might get flamed for talking about it, and you're welcome to your opinion, but I know that it was the best I could do at the time.

Thank you for sharing.

I think no matter what when a pet has to be PTS by any means it is something that never leaves you. but know that you did what was best for your dog. To leave her suffer would have left you with worse emotional scars.

I also did not know that little tidbit that you can't bury an animal after it has been euthanized. I had no idea. We had Teddy cremated because I knew I wanted to plant his ashes with a brand new tree (which has grown 3 times in size since we planted it last year) and then keep some ashes in an urn. but I did not know that if you have your pet euthanized that they won't let you bury it. That's sad.
 

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Jenn , those are times I question .....sounds like vet costs to me . Sorry , but I would have vetted in both cases .
 

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Anything that might eat on it *shudder* will die from what they inject them with...horses and such that are euthanized and not humanely shot have to be taken to special places (like the dump) to be disposed of due to the hazard. I think it's sad sending your beloved animal to the dump and seems rather cold to me. I'd rather have to do the alternative and bury them.
All my pets are buried at my grandparents ranch, we actually have a small cemetery that is fenced off for all of our deceased critters, complete with headstones.

Speaking of which, animals processed for food are typically shot or electrocuted, or in some cases even less humanely killed. It's amazing what's legal when it comes to livestock.
 

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My best friend shot 2 of her dogs. One was hit by a car and DRUG herself back to thier farm. Her husbands friend came out and shot her. The burried her after. Also thier old dog Baxter was 16 and it was the 26th time in a month he got into a procupine and the vet bills were out of this world. He had quills in his eye even it was that bad this time. He was shot and burried. Would i shoot my dogs? No. But I dont condem them for doing it.


Oh that first story is so heartbreaking.

Like I said in my first post. Teddy didn't even survive the car ride to the vet. He didn't get that peaceful send off. I hate to think how he suffered being moved from the road into the truck and RUSHED (we were so hoping he would at least make it to the vet so Brian could say goodbye :( ) to the vet only to pass on the way there. If I had the strength to do it and wasn't in a residential area I could have ended his suffering so much sooner :(
 

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Jenn , those are times I question .....sounds like vet costs to me . Sorry , but I would have vetted in both cases .
But then you have to think. that dog dragged it self back to the home only to be lifted and moved into a vehicle and rushed to the vet. I don't know how far the vet is but it usually isn't right around the corner. So that dog would have had to suffer all that much longer and the bumping and shifting of the car certainly wouldn't have been comfortable.
 

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I would never do it to my own pets, but I live in Denver, and there are several non-profit house-call vets around here who will come to your house and euthanize your pet in the comfort of your own home. There are also no-cost and low-cost cremation services around here too... I don't like having to bury my pet. I'd rather be able to spread their ashes in a peaceful place they enjoyed in life.

I'm sure it's a different story in the middle of nowhere, where there are possibly no vets at all. My best friend's dad had to shoot one of their cats, because it got outside, crawled into their car engine, and, not knowing this, they turned the car on and... well... it wasn't pretty and the poor cat was still alive and the closest vet is a 45 minute drive.
 

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Agree Sparks ,,,, but depends on the injuries . I had one die on the way to the vet's too . Not injured , but I should have known that she was ready to go . I held on too long for some of my Goldens . They are so brave and stoical . Chip showed absolutely no signs of illness until he didn't eat unless proded one Saturday . Sunday no interest in food but acted fine . Vetted Monday for X Rays ( Tuesday the 4th of July ) Wednesday the ultrasounds and put to sleep . NO OTHER SYMPTOMS ! He had to be in pain , but never showed it ! The same with Elin's Eli ....was having chemo treatments and was here when I noticed blood from his nose in his supper ( which he wolfed down ) I did have trouble getting him up in the morning , but after going out , came in and went to sleep and died . That's why I worry so about Chaz dogs when things aren't " norm " .
 

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I think a lot has to do with personal circumstances, and people should not judge to quickly. I spent an ourrageous ammount of money to have a vet make a housecall to euthanize a cat, because the cat was terrified of vetrinarians and I wanted to make it as easy as possible. I paid an equally redicious ammount to have him cremated, because I didn't have anywhere to bury him. I was living somewhere were shooting him was not an option? If I lived in the country? Well, perhaps. I would have thought about it if the alternative would have been to take him to the vet, which he hated and was so very, very frightened of. It would have been an issue of whether I could bring myself to do it, really.

I had a rat euthed once too . . . and my mother asked me why I didn't just break her neck. I answered honestly: I didn't know if I could kill her on the first try and didn't want to hurt her finding out. That and I couldn't bring myself to . . . she was such a trusting little thing. So I spent several HOURS on the phone trying to find a vet that was willing to see a rat at all, and put one down for less than it would cost to put down a dog (I have discovered that compassion is not necessiarly a trait of vets).

I think a lot of it has to do with the circumstances and the personal strength of the person involved. I think lethal injection is generally preferable, but not in all cases, and for some people, the cost is prohibitive, especially these days, will all those extra obligatory "services." Not to mention vets that simply will not put an animal down without having "tried everything." That was one problem I had with Urchin, the rat. Those who woudl see an "exotic" (a rat is exotic?) and would do the deed for less than the cost of a dog, insisted on a "full exam." I remember this conversation "Look, lady, this is a 3 year old rat. She's had a stroke. She's in pain. I just want her to stop suffering. I KNOW there's nothing you can do for a three year old rat, who has been blind for a year, who had nurological problems before her stroke." Response "We need to make sure you aren't just tired of her." My response "click." Thank god I found an "old-fashioned" vet on the next call . . .
 

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