Shiba Puppies (pix!)
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It's not that we have any REAL preference for sesame, it's just that for whatever reason, it's the hardest of the three accepted coat colors (red, sesame, or black and tan), to get correct. Most of the dogs in American show rings are mis-marked reds, where there are concentrated patches of black hairs on the body in some places, but the coat remains a "clear" red in others. The last really *wonderful* sesame in this country is a boy that my breeder owned a long time ago, CH. Jacquet's Genji. He was around back when Shibas were *just* getting accepted into the AKC. He won many rare breed best in shows. Now breeders have a tendency to shy away from breeding for sesames, because more often than not, the coat color ends up being incorrect after the dog matures. It's important to keep them in our lines however because they impart a correct, harsh texture. If you breed exclusively to reds you tend to start seeing softer, and lighter coats- almost yellow looking.
Sesames should have an even intermixture of black hairs throughout the entire body, save for the white ventral surface markings, "urajiro." They don't necessarily have to have it on their faces, but it should come up far enough that it ends at a widow's peak. The end result should look almost "cinammon" colored. And there should never be a section where the hair is more darkly concentrated. Unfortunately, that's almost exclusively what we get in the US. Part of it is that even the Japanese find it hard to breed great sesames- so they certainly don't want to part with them! Until we manage to get a few, it will be hard to improve this color.
Just so you guys see ALL the accepted Shiba colors
A black and tan NIPPO winner. Nice example.
Jessee's sire is Ch. Tenkuu Go Etchuu Wakasugisou JP. AKA "Taro." He is the top-producing Shiba stud of all time in the US, and is just 5 years old. His impact on the breed has been amazing- a truly prepotent sire that improves upon every bitch he breeds. ALL of his puppies get his triangular eye, clear red coat, perfect ear pitch, and fantastic temperament.
This is him:
Thanks for all the great compliments everyone! We were really proud of this litter, and I can't believe I forgot to post photos. Kimi's head is getting bigger by the moment.
Sesames should have an even intermixture of black hairs throughout the entire body, save for the white ventral surface markings, "urajiro." They don't necessarily have to have it on their faces, but it should come up far enough that it ends at a widow's peak. The end result should look almost "cinammon" colored. And there should never be a section where the hair is more darkly concentrated. Unfortunately, that's almost exclusively what we get in the US. Part of it is that even the Japanese find it hard to breed great sesames- so they certainly don't want to part with them! Until we manage to get a few, it will be hard to improve this color.
Just so you guys see ALL the accepted Shiba colors
A black and tan NIPPO winner. Nice example.
Jessee's sire is Ch. Tenkuu Go Etchuu Wakasugisou JP. AKA "Taro." He is the top-producing Shiba stud of all time in the US, and is just 5 years old. His impact on the breed has been amazing- a truly prepotent sire that improves upon every bitch he breeds. ALL of his puppies get his triangular eye, clear red coat, perfect ear pitch, and fantastic temperament.
This is him:
Thanks for all the great compliments everyone! We were really proud of this litter, and I can't believe I forgot to post photos. Kimi's head is getting bigger by the moment.
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Hehehe- this is how they suck all of us unsuspecting slobs in...then, when it's too late, you realize a dog owns you. The Shibas have us trained very well. I am now a CPX (companion person excellent), and I'll be in the Utility ring soon.
Well Citrus- come look for me in 10-20 and I'll set you up with something nice. I wouldn't even say that this breed takes a lot of experience (the first dog I ever owned was a Shiba), it just takes a lot of studying, a lot of creativity, and more patience than you'll ever suspect you had. I guess the best way to describe it is that it will be more like trying to train and motivate a cat, than a dog. And you've also got to be prepared to own a dog that you can probably never take off leash.
AHAHAHAHAHA- I wish. Although in all honesty, it sounds a LOT like my own breeder's set up. She's got several acres of land in the middle of nowhere- PERFECT for raising little hellions.
And the fencing sounds about right.
I agree! He is VERY Japanese in style. I'm hoping to have my next puppy by him.
Black and Tans aren't that common at all either- although you do see a few now and then. Kimi's dam was a BEAUTIFUL black and tan, actually. A little spitfire named Koku. She made history by being the only black and tan Shiba bitch to take best of opposite sex at the National Specialty from the Open class, beating out a huge entry of champion girls. So Kimi is black and tan factored, should we ever decide to breed her to a dog that carries the gene as well....
Well Citrus- come look for me in 10-20 and I'll set you up with something nice.
I wouldn't even say that this breed takes a lot of experience (the first dog I ever owned was a Shiba), it just takes a lot of studying, a lot of creativity, and more patience than you'll ever suspect you had. I guess the best way to describe it is that it will be more like trying to train and motivate a cat, than a dog. And you've also got to be prepared to own a dog that you can probably never take off leash.AHAHAHAHAHA- I wish. Although in all honesty, it sounds a LOT like my own breeder's set up. She's got several acres of land in the middle of nowhere- PERFECT for raising little hellions.
And the fencing sounds about right.
I agree!
He is VERY Japanese in style. I'm hoping to have my next puppy by him.Black and Tans aren't that common at all either- although you do see a few now and then. Kimi's dam was a BEAUTIFUL black and tan, actually. A little spitfire named Koku. She made history by being the only black and tan Shiba bitch to take best of opposite sex at the National Specialty from the Open class, beating out a huge entry of champion girls. So Kimi is black and tan factored, should we ever decide to breed her to a dog that carries the gene as well....
Here is a xmas card a UKC friend sent me she breeds Shibas and Kais
When I first started with rare breed I would travel to shows with my Coz and a Kai hanging on him.
http://www.planetmolosser.com/gallery/data/657/cid_50661E67-7980-4052-B90C-344D66FD7668.jpg
I cant tell what that tiger thing is behind the shiba.
When I first started with rare breed I would travel to shows with my Coz and a Kai hanging on him.
http://www.planetmolosser.com/gallery/data/657/cid_50661E67-7980-4052-B90C-344D66FD7668.jpg
I cant tell what that tiger thing is behind the shiba.
