Rottweiler Attack
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That dog should have been PTS the first time it attacked a child. What the hell is wrong with this idiot??? Hopefully the state mandates it be done so this doesn't happen AGAIN.
Hopefully the take home lesson for the average Joe is that powerful breeds attract a disproportionate number of IDIOTS but probably they'll just associate rotties with attacks on children.
That guy needs a good public flogging. *%&*&
Hopefully the take home lesson for the average Joe is that powerful breeds attract a disproportionate number of IDIOTS but probably they'll just associate rotties with attacks on children.
That guy needs a good public flogging. *%&*&
I am furious! I own so many Rottweilers and I get crap about it all the time because of idiots like this guy. What makes it worse is he calls himself a dog whisperer so people are going to think if this guy couldn't get his Rottweiler right then nobody can! Here's the link to half the story: http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Complaint-against-CT-dog-whisperer-20120114
Trying to look for more articles but my google foo is not so good this morning
ETA another link http://www.2oceansvibe.com/2012/01/...rs-rottweiler-responsible-for-clifton-attack/
ETA: By the comments on my first link it already looks like Rotties are losing face here in SA. I am really upset.
Trying to look for more articles but my google foo is not so good this morning
ETA another link http://www.2oceansvibe.com/2012/01/...rs-rottweiler-responsible-for-clifton-attack/
ETA: By the comments on my first link it already looks like Rotties are losing face here in SA. I am really upset.
I am of the opinion James Lech should be destroyed for letting this dog, who has a bite history, off leash, in a non-dog friendly area, and still thinking he is the smartest arsehole on the planet with his dog training ****. I have a dog who mildly dislikes young children. I would NEVER put her near children, I would NEVER trust her with children EVER. Has she ever bitten? No, but I am sure it is because I never gave her that opportunity. What stops this idiot getting another Rottweiler? Making the same mistakes? Sure by all means destroy the dog, but there's no cure for stupid.
OMG. Seriously?!?! He should be banned from owning dogs.
I remember how creepy the first video was... like the dog was stalking the child long before he attacked, and his supposed "dog whisperer" owner was completely oblivious to that. A dog like that should be PTS, doesn't he also have a history of biting BEFORE this guy got him? He sees children as prey. It's unsafe for 99% of people to own such a dog, especially an arrogant dog abuser wannabe trainer.
Makes me so sad. I cannot even imagine a Rottie attacking a child.
I grew up with the sweetest Rottie ever, he let us dress him up and paint his nails.
I remember how creepy the first video was... like the dog was stalking the child long before he attacked, and his supposed "dog whisperer" owner was completely oblivious to that. A dog like that should be PTS, doesn't he also have a history of biting BEFORE this guy got him? He sees children as prey. It's unsafe for 99% of people to own such a dog, especially an arrogant dog abuser wannabe trainer.
Makes me so sad. I cannot even imagine a Rottie attacking a child.
I grew up with the sweetest Rottie ever, he let us dress him up and paint his nails.
I've had the same experiences. The closest we've come to owning a Rott ourselves was babysitting my best friend's first one. We used to refer to him as a Lab in a Rottweiler body. My friend has had 3 Rotts, and, while they weren't all "Labs in a Rottweiler body", they were all freindly dogs who I wouldn't hesitate to have come to our house. Every Rott I've ever met has been friendly. The only attacks I've experienced was getting a good face washing.
While I'm not saying Rottiess are bad dogs and I have known many great ones, there are certainly ones out there with serious aggression issues and it is not always due to the owner. They are not a breed that is supposed to love strangers and aggression is supposed to be a part of their genetic make because of the job they were bred for. That doesn't mean they are dangerous dogs though. It just means like other breeds bred to protect and guard, they require more early and ongoing training, more early socialization and better ongoing management than the average dog.
In this case, neither of these attacks had to happen at all. They happened due to poor management and putting the dog in bad situations where he was unlikely to be successful. I'm sure the dog will pay the ultimate price but I see this as more of an owner failure. I don't doubt the dog that the dog has a less than ideal temperament but since his main issue seems to be children, it should be easy enough to keep him out of situations that would cause him to react. Instead, his owner take shim and put him right into the middle of situations where he may attack and where his isn't being closely supervised.
In this case, neither of these attacks had to happen at all. They happened due to poor management and putting the dog in bad situations where he was unlikely to be successful. I'm sure the dog will pay the ultimate price but I see this as more of an owner failure. I don't doubt the dog that the dog has a less than ideal temperament but since his main issue seems to be children, it should be easy enough to keep him out of situations that would cause him to react. Instead, his owner take shim and put him right into the middle of situations where he may attack and where his isn't being closely supervised.
The good thing is that the comments under that article you posted are all intelligent and blaming the owner, not the dog.
If a guardian breed has a correct temperament, they are not aggressive. They are only supposed to protect in the correct circumstances and yes, they learn what is a dangerous situation and what isn't by proper socialization and training. This rottweiler has a completely incorrect temperament for any breed of dog on the planet. He is not being protective of anything except possibly himself, he is attacking kids because they are there. Most of the rottweilers I meet don't have correct temperament (because most of the ones I meet are bred by BYB for looks), of course, most of them have temperament that is way too friendly, which is fine by me. I'd prefer a dog who is way to friendly to one who is way too suspicious.
That owner should be punished. Are there consequences in South African law for owners who's dogs repeatedly hurt people? If not, there should be!!
If a guardian breed has a correct temperament, they are not aggressive. They are only supposed to protect in the correct circumstances and yes, they learn what is a dangerous situation and what isn't by proper socialization and training. This rottweiler has a completely incorrect temperament for any breed of dog on the planet. He is not being protective of anything except possibly himself, he is attacking kids because they are there. Most of the rottweilers I meet don't have correct temperament (because most of the ones I meet are bred by BYB for looks), of course, most of them have temperament that is way too friendly, which is fine by me. I'd prefer a dog who is way to friendly to one who is way too suspicious.
That owner should be punished. Are there consequences in South African law for owners who's dogs repeatedly hurt people? If not, there should be!!
Aggression is part of the correct temperament for a protection/guard dog. Poor management/socialization/training can led to problems of inappropriate aggression. And genetics can also predispose a dog to having low threshold for aggression, handler aggression, reactivity with aggression, fear related aggression, etc, etc. It's not such a simple thing as "good dogs are sweet, lovey dogs and will only ever attack bad guys and even then it's not because they are aggressive". I've seen many GSDs with inappropriate aggression towards strangers and very often, it was a management issue on their owner's part and/or due to teaching the dog what is or is not appropriate. The Rottie club's judges handbook describes in depth how to approach and examine a Rottweiler so as not to be perceived as a threat. They do not do this because the breed is supposed to be easy going dogs who will lick you to death.
In the case with this dog, IMO that is neither here nor there. Judging from the video from the last attack I would tend to say this dog almost seems to show a predatory response towards young children. Very scary for sure but I still think both incidents were totally preventable.
The dog should have been put down the first time I have no idea what loophole this man found. Maybe because he is a "dog whisperer" he pulled some strings? I don't know, but he is an idiot.
I have Rottweilers who are perfectly friendly and love everyone and are really sweet. But I also have a Rottweiler who isn't happy with everyone and isn't comfortable around children. People need to learn how to understand their dogs. I would put one of my Rottweilers with a bunch of children and know it will all be ok, the other I would never let close to children. It depends on the dog.
I have Rottweilers who are perfectly friendly and love everyone and are really sweet. But I also have a Rottweiler who isn't happy with everyone and isn't comfortable around children. People need to learn how to understand their dogs. I would put one of my Rottweilers with a bunch of children and know it will all be ok, the other I would never let close to children. It depends on the dog.