Gossip mongering? Not really.
The lady who received Mike is the one showing everyone who will look the contract that shows $0 due. So for a breeder that is so "honest" about everything I am wondering who's privacy she is respecting. Because the lady who originally got Mike is not hiding anything.
And why is that some members on Chaz are allowed to question, accuse, etc. other breeders on Chaz but not all? Personally I like to know all I can about a breeder as do many Chazzers. This includes the workings of a contract. How was the situation explained to the satisfaction of all Chaz members? It wasn't.
If Red doesn't want to explain her side of the story that is fine. But there must be a reason since Mike's previous owner is being up front and honest. If she's not I am sure an explanation would stop the "smear champaign".
The lady who received Mike is the one showing everyone who will look the contract that shows $0 due. So for a breeder that is so "honest" about everything I am wondering who's privacy she is respecting. Because the lady who originally got Mike is not hiding anything.
And why is that some members on Chaz are allowed to question, accuse, etc. other breeders on Chaz but not all? Personally I like to know all I can about a breeder as do many Chazzers. This includes the workings of a contract. How was the situation explained to the satisfaction of all Chaz members? It wasn't.
If Red doesn't want to explain her side of the story that is fine. But there must be a reason since Mike's previous owner is being up front and honest. If she's not I am sure an explanation would stop the "smear champaign".
If you want to ask questions, start your own thread and ask away. Red's not required to answer, any more than you're required to answer the questions such a thread will bring YOUR way.
And cut the pathetic "how come some people can and I can't" bullshit. Earn some respect and credibility. Whining and being pathetic isn't the way to do it. Not here, anyway. It might work wherever else you go, but not here.
End of discussion in this thread.
And cut the pathetic "how come some people can and I can't" bullshit. Earn some respect and credibility. Whining and being pathetic isn't the way to do it. Not here, anyway. It might work wherever else you go, but not here.
End of discussion in this thread.
I love the pics. It is a pleasure to see such good looking Rotties, and it has been wonderful to follow the progress of these dogs that we have seen since their birth.
I find their success in the ring really exciting too. I, like most members of Chaz, have absolutely no interest in the business dealings involved in this litter, or any personal problems that may or may not have arisen between the breeder and some owner I know nothing about.
In fact, I find the addition of this inflammatory and irrelevant information totally out of place in this thread. Apparently the poster failed to notice that this thread is all about the progress of these gorgeous pups, and not about calling their breeder out.
I find their success in the ring really exciting too. I, like most members of Chaz, have absolutely no interest in the business dealings involved in this litter, or any personal problems that may or may not have arisen between the breeder and some owner I know nothing about.
In fact, I find the addition of this inflammatory and irrelevant information totally out of place in this thread. Apparently the poster failed to notice that this thread is all about the progress of these gorgeous pups, and not about calling their breeder out.
No, not quite. I reread this thread, and as far as I can tell, your position is that some woman, not on this forum, complained to you about Red's business practices, and you now feel it is your right, as a person with absolutely no interest in the matter, to demand that she explain her point of view in a public forum without her accuser, just to satisfy your curiosity.
I really doubt Red is stupid enough to fall for that. If I have misstated your position, please let me know where I have erred.
I really doubt Red is stupid enough to fall for that. If I have misstated your position, please let me know where I have erred.
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Neither side of the story is anyone's business beyond the parties involved.
I refuse to make any public statement in regard to this matter, now or ever. Others may choose to do so. That is beyond any control of mine.
I have my puppy, and at this point in time, that is all that matters about it to me.
I refuse to make any public statement in regard to this matter, now or ever. Others may choose to do so. That is beyond any control of mine.
I have my puppy, and at this point in time, that is all that matters about it to me.
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Guys, am I at fault here for starting this fight between Red and J? I am sorry about that. That was not my intention at all. I was simply curious. Earlier in this thread it was stated that Red was selling mike. I asked her why to see if there was any truth to it. My intent was not malicious at all. Again, I apologize.
I got a pm from Red attacking me for asking her a question in this thread. I had absolutely no idea that I was not supposed to ask questions. If I knew, then I would not have done that. So thanks, Red, for attacking me for simply asking a question out of curiosities sake. I had no idea that this was a touchy subject for you.
With that said. Any accusations by J or anyone else is simply HEARSAY and should be treated as such. Take it as face value. There is no facts here, because we simply do not know. I think its unfair to judge someones practices simply by what someone says about them. I am not here to judge someone about what they do with their own dogs, especialy since I am not a breeder and have no idea how things "work".
I got a pm from Red attacking me for asking her a question in this thread. I had absolutely no idea that I was not supposed to ask questions. If I knew, then I would not have done that. So thanks, Red, for attacking me for simply asking a question out of curiosities sake. I had no idea that this was a touchy subject for you.
With that said. Any accusations by J or anyone else is simply HEARSAY and should be treated as such. Take it as face value. There is no facts here, because we simply do not know. I think its unfair to judge someones practices simply by what someone says about them. I am not here to judge someone about what they do with their own dogs, especialy since I am not a breeder and have no idea how things "work".
Yep.
OMFG.
Go harass another poster, please. This "woo! let's beat on Red!" crap is so old it has whiskers growing out the ears. How about you bash me instead? You can talk about how my "Lab" has some white on his chest or something. Or maybe you could make some stuff up. Or just revert to your usual "I heard this from someone, it MUST be true..." and then interrupt my threads with it. I know all sorts of interesting people who hate me and would be happy to play "telephone" with you until you have a sufficiently garbled and suspicious-sounding story to confront me with in my next thread. I can even send you regular PMs to ask you how the rumor-making is coming, and remind you if you've forgotten to harass me for a couple of weeks. Your routine is just getting a bit stale, and I'm thinking some variety would help you troll more efficiently. Sound good?
Maybe on Chaz. 
Anyways, my post was not nasty OR confrontational. I posted what I had "heard" about the situation when someone asked why Mike was being sold. I did not accuse but merely advised that Red could answer that question. She got defensive, not I.
Anyways, my post was not nasty OR confrontational. I posted what I had "heard" about the situation when someone asked why Mike was being sold. I did not accuse but merely advised that Red could answer that question. She got defensive, not I.
Go harass another poster, please. This "woo! let's beat on Red!" crap is so old it has whiskers growing out the ears. How about you bash me instead? You can talk about how my "Lab" has some white on his chest or something. Or maybe you could make some stuff up. Or just revert to your usual "I heard this from someone, it MUST be true..." and then interrupt my threads with it. I know all sorts of interesting people who hate me and would be happy to play "telephone" with you until you have a sufficiently garbled and suspicious-sounding story to confront me with in my next thread. I can even send you regular PMs to ask you how the rumor-making is coming, and remind you if you've forgotten to harass me for a couple of weeks. Your routine is just getting a bit stale, and I'm thinking some variety would help you troll more efficiently. Sound good?
Oh that was a joke now? WAIT I get it. Like your original posts were all friendly 'n such! Don't worry, though, between your posts and mine, Jscrew, we have brought the maturity level of this thread down to about zero. I think I've sufficiently filled my quota of maturity-sucking. I was afraid all my Serious Posts this morning my hurt my rep'. (Don't worry, though, it's not like you needed the help. You could have done it all on your own, I'm sure.)
YAY Charlie I'm so glad you're back to picking on me as usual. Can I bite you, too?
Don't worry, though, between your posts and mine, Jscrew, we have brought the maturity level of this thread down to about zero. I think I've sufficiently filled my quota of maturity-sucking. I was afraid all my Serious Posts this morning my hurt my rep'. (Don't worry, though, it's not like you needed the help. You could have done it all on your own, I'm sure.)
Actually I think the only one in here who sounds twelve is you. Seriously. Bite me.
And don't pick on Nolu. That's my job.
And don't pick on Nolu. That's my job.