Rottie bone cancer

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Hi all, it's been quite some time since I've been here, but I have a decision to make and I'm looking for some input. Last fall my Rottie, Thor, was diagnosed with a degenerative nerve disease in the spine, and given 1 to 2 years to live (I don't know the name of the disease, but the vet said that he'd eventually be completely paralyzed.) The vet put him on Rimadyl, and he was fine until January of this year. At that time, the Rimadyl started ripping up his stomach, so we had him back to the vet. He then noticed a lump on Thor's back left knee, he x-ray'd it and diagnosed it as bone cancer, and gave him one to two months to live. We had him back at the vet two weeks ago, and the vet was surprised how slowly it has progressed, but it has definitely progressed, his left leg is about 3 times the size of his right. We do have the option of amputating his hind leg, and the vet said that could give us a few more months with him, but the cancer had metastisized before it was even diagnosed, so he has cancer in most organs.

I'm told that if we amputate, we can take him off most of the pain killers for now, except what is required for the original terminal disease, but I'm wondering if we'll be putting him through too much with the stay at the vet and the rehab.

Euthanizing him at this point is not even an option, as long as he's got his pain killers he's the happiest dog on earth. Earlier today I had to actually catch him and stop him from running, for fear that he'd end up banging his bad leg on something. (that foot hasn't touched the ground in weeks, but he gets around just fine.)

Anyway, if it gives him a few extra months, and alleviates some of the pain, does he deserve losing the leg? My vet said it will only take him a few days to get his balance back, since he's used to not using the leg, and he just has to get used to not having that 7 or 8 pounds on that side.

This is a whole new situation for me, of all the dogs I've ever had, I've never had one with a terminal disease, it was always just "old age." I know I'm going to lose him sooner or later, i'd prefer it be later, and I want to do all I can for him until then.

On a lighter note, I do have 4 min pins, and they used to beat the crap out of him, ever since he was diagnosed with the first illness, the most any of them do to him is curl up under his chin to sleep with him, they don't even attempt to get him to play, so anyone who thinks dogs are dumb creatures doesn't have a clue, they know a lot more than they should...
 

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Ordinarily, I'd choose to amputate. However, with him having a degenerative disease already, I'd be worried about that causing him to have problems after the amputation - how functional is his back end right now? Does he drag his feet, have normal reflexes, have trouble getting up?

In the end it's really up to each individual. Some dogs do GREAT after an amputation. Others wouldn't do well, and the dog's owner knows how their dog will likely react better than anyone else. I'm so sorry you and your boy are having to go through this.
 
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He runs like the wind on his three good legs, but the spinal disease has entered mine and my wife's conversations several times. I just want to do all I can to make all the time he has left as worthwhile as possible. Last October I got a call telling me that my dad on the other side of the country had pancreatic cancer, I flew back there several times, the last time I saw him was New Year's day, he passed on Feb 12 of this year, I saw what he went through until then, and I won't put my dog through that.

I am terrified however that amputating will make the original problem worse, my vet says in all liklihood it won't, he'll still need to be on pain meds for that, but his mobility at this point is a good indication. I really hate this not knowing.
 
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That sounds like what's going on with Shiva. Hers is supposed to be an extremely aggressive cancer though, and the vet told Charley that even if he'd brought her in for diagnosis when she first started limping amputation would only have given her a few more months, and she's not a dog who would deal well with it, not to mention the pain in the aftermath of an amputation.

We're throwing the Essiac to her. The swelling in her leg went down and she quit coughing (the cancer had metastasized into her lungs) and quit needing pain meds at night (she's never needed them during the day). She's happy and energetic again, but Charley told me her leg has started swelling again. I've got tincture of Cat's Claw and Graviola on order to add to her treatment. It's a race we may not win, but at least her quality of life is good.

The point of all that is that the quality of his life at this point is what's important, and that you can be at peace with your decisions, knowing you have done your best.
 

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