RedBrick....farms? Apiary? Mental Institute?

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most addiction start out innocently enough. I'll just try one, or I'll only do it once. Then you start thinking, 'well that wasn't too bad, I'll do it again' or 'i'll have another.' Then before you know it, you've spent all your money and have nothing to show for it.

Ok, maybe it isn't that bad (yet) and hopefully this addiction will result in lots of beautiful honey. Hopefully....

Last year we purchased 1 package of bees. A package is about 3 lbs of worker bees & drones, along with an unrelated queen. At the end of the bee seasons, we decided that having 1 hive was fun, but everyone suggests having 2 hives so that you can compare them against each other, so we bought another package. We were pretty excited. Last year's hive (Hive 1), was doing great. They had lots of honey that lasted them all winter, and enough that we were able to give some to the new hive (Hive 2), to help get them going. Hive 1 continued to kick butt and we were excited to get some honey from it. Then, Memorial Day Weekend happened.

I left work a little early because my In-Laws were coming to visit, and as I was walking out to the car, I got a text from my husband. It was just a picture of a bee swarm. I called him up to let him know I was going to be late, and sped away to the "local" bee supply store - 45 minutes away. The bee store had just enough supplies for us to catch that swarm, but it was tight. They were running desperately low on supplies, all the bees in the area were swarming, and the truck with the rest of their supplies was in transit....somewhere. I raced home, because we still had work to do to get the supplies ready to be a new bee home.

The next morning, we got up early, while it was still pretty chilly out, and collected the bees. The bees thought it was early, and cold, so they didn't want to move too fast and were very easy to catch. Now we were up to 3 hives.

The following weekend, Hive 1 swarmed again. This was so awesome to watch! I was sitting outside on Saturday morning, doing some work things, when I looked up and the sky was full of bees. It was a giant arch of bees from Hive 1 to the post that Hive 3 had swarmed on. Again we had to race to the local bee supply store. They were even lower on supplies this time, so we had to try somewhere else. By the time we made it home, the swarm was no where to be found. Maybe we were actually lucky there.

My normal after-work routine is to grab my camera, and my dog, and head outside to do some picture taking. Sometimes I take pictures of flowers, other times the dog, or I keep my eye out for some interesting looking bugs hanging out. Friday, I decided that I was tired of bug pictures and it was time for some Hudson pictures. My husband gets home and says, "Ter, why are you taking pictures of the dog and not the bees?" I thought he was referring to my recent habit of hunting down some bees (local & honey) on the clover that is starting to bloom. Boy was I wrong! He was referring to another swarm. We hurried around and put the final touches on a hive, then looked around the yard and went...."so where do we want to put this one?" Bees like their hives to be level, our yard is anything but that. But like most of plans, we went ahead and caught the swarm, deciding that figuring out where to put it was a good job for Future Ben & Terri.

Today we will be building another 2-hive, hive stand for Hive 3 & 4...

We now need to go through Hive 1 to figure out why it keeps swarming. Our guess, the queen is being too nice, and instead of killing any un-hatched queens, they just swarm every time a new queen emerges. Silly bees....


and now onto pictures...

The queen cage from this year's package. Packages ship with unrelated queens, and bees will not readily accept a new queen. What they do, instead, is put the queen in her own cage, with a candy plug. The plug is normally made out of fondant (like for cakes). It will take around 5 days for the candy to be eaten by the bees, and by that time, the bees will have grown accustom to the pheromones of the new queen and will accept her. If you were to just release a new queen into a hive, they hive would surround her, and kill her. Of course, the package we go this year decided to cluster around the honey, instead of releasing the queen, so she died and we had to get a new one. That hive is affectionately known as The Dumb Hive.



When using a Langstoth hive (the tall ones that are normally painted white), people will have around 2 deep boxes on the bottom, then a queen excluder, and finally medium boxes on top of that. This keeps the queen in the bottom two boxes for laying eggs, and the top boxes are only honey. No one wants bee bits in their honey. This is the size difference between a deep and a medium


This is a deep frame with wax foundation. Different bee keepers use different foundation on their frames. Some even go foundationless. The idea with using foundation is that it gives the bees something to draw out the honey comb. The bees will draw the comb outward from the foundation. In foundationless frames, the bees will draw the comb down from the top. The benefit of using foundation is that the comb tends to be nice and straight and neat. Foundationless frames can get a little wonky sometimes.


The Memorial Day Swarm


From left to right - Hives 1, 2, & 3, with the different parts labeled. On hive 1, you can see the line between the top Deep and the Medium. That line is the queen excluder I walked about before.
 

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I am terrified of bees, but this is actually pretty cool! It's very interesting what all goes into raising bees. :)
 
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I am terrified of bees, but this is actually pretty cool! It's very interesting what all goes into raising bees. :)
The bees are normally very well behaved. I got popped twice yesterday when we were catching the swarm, but then we got smart about it. Last year we both got stung when one of the deeps slid off the hive stand. That really upset them!
 

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Fascinating! I know nothing about bees at all, but that sounds and looks really interesting.
 

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Great post, loved watching you figure all this out. Hopefully mine will swarm next year...if not I'm going to show up on your doorstep around Memorial day with a couple nucs and look hopeful ;)
 

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The bees are normally very well behaved. I got popped twice yesterday when we were catching the swarm, but then we got smart about it. Last year we both got stung when one of the deeps slid off the hive stand. That really upset them!
Lol, that's good that you've got nice bees :) All the ones I've run across have been heat-seeking missiles if you catch my drift.

So can you tell any bees apart individually, or can you tell which ones belong to which hive?
 
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Fascinating! I know nothing about bees at all, but that sounds and looks really interesting.
It's a lot of fun learning about them. Definitely a learning curve, but we are having fun. The best thing about bees, vs normal livestock - they are pretty self-sufficient. Need to take a week off to go visit family? The bees will be fine.

Great post, loved watching you figure all this out. Hopefully mine will swarm next year...if not I'm going to show up on your doorstep around Memorial day with a couple nucs and look hopeful ;)
Ben was just saying that next year we should be prepared to do nucs. That will definitely be fun!

Also: Redbrick Asylum? :p
I like it!

Lol, that's good that you've got nice bees :) All the ones I've run across have been heat-seeking missiles if you catch my drift.

So can you tell any bees apart individually, or can you tell which ones belong to which hive?
were the bees, or wasps? Wasps are assholes. I know they have their place, but I still don't like them. Definitely cannot tell them apart, especially since Hives 3 & 4 are swarms from Hive 1, so they are essentially the same group of bees. Hive 2 was purchased from the same people that Hive 1 came from, so they are all pretty similar.

Some people who are really into bees and the different types can tell the difference between some of the different strains because they do look different. Italian bees are different from Russia bees, which are different from...other types of bees.
 

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It's a lot of fun learning about them. Definitely a learning curve, but we are having fun. The best thing about bees, vs normal livestock - they are pretty self-sufficient. Need to take a week off to go visit family? The bees will be fine.



Ben was just saying that next year we should be prepared to do nucs. That will definitely be fun!



I like it!



were the bees, or wasps? Wasps are assholes. I know they have their place, but I still don't like them. Definitely cannot tell them apart, especially since Hives 3 & 4 are swarms from Hive 1, so they are essentially the same group of bees. Hive 2 was purchased from the same people that Hive 1 came from, so they are all pretty similar.

Some people who are really into bees and the different types can tell the difference between some of the different strains because they do look different. Italian bees are different from Russia bees, which are different from...other types of bees.
I honestly have no idea, lol. I mean, I can tell the difference between honey bees, sweat bees, and that's all I know about different bees... Others that aren't honey or sweat bees are just... Bee bees?
 
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I honestly have no idea, lol. I mean, I can tell the difference between honey bees, sweat bees, and that's all I know about different bees... Others that aren't honey or sweat bees are just... Bee bees?
So this is a bumble bee. They are the really big ones.


Fun little native bee we have



This is a wasp. Again, I know they have their place, but mostly they should just die


bees vs wasps
 
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I honestly have no idea, lol. I mean, I can tell the difference between honey bees, sweat bees, and that's all I know about different bees... Others that aren't honey or sweat bees are just... Bee bees?
Thanks! Bees are a lot of fun...we were talking that, at the rate we are going, next year we are going to need to start selling nucs.

Bee Terminalogy - a Nuc is short for nucleus colony. a Nuc is generally about half the size of a deep box. It contains 4 frames of drawn out comb, eggs, capped brood, worker bees, and a queen. This is different from a package of bees because a package is generally a wooden box, with screen on each side & the queen is not related.

more pictures for you guys from today. We have baby bees in different stages of development.

First up - eggs. I'm sorry that these aren't in focus, but they are the little white specs against the black plastic foundation.


Next stage is the larva stage. The eggs hatch and grow to become little larva. The nurse bees will feed the larva for a bit, and then cap the cell off.


Finally the bees will cap the cells and allow the larva to finish developing. In this particular case, you can tell that the cells contain worker bees because the are flat.

Here we have capped drone brood at the top of the frame. You can see how it sticks out more than the worker bee cells. This is because the drones are much bigger than the worker bees

and finally, The Queen herself. The first time you see a honey bee queen, it is pretty shocking how different she looks from the rest. We now have 4 hives, fully inspected 2, took a quick look at 1, and left the newest hive alone. This was the only queen we saw, but the other two hives had evidence of a laying queen, so we didn't bother searching too much


 

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So this is a bumble bee. They are the really big ones.


Fun little native bee we have



This is a wasp. Again, I know they have their place, but mostly they should just die


bees vs wasps
Basically, the bees look like fuzzy nice guys, and wasps are more like weaponized destroyers of all that is holy lol.

Bee keeping looks like a lot of fun!
 

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To add to the "Those Other Bees" post, this is a carpenter bee. Roughly the size of a bumble bee (bit smaller, but much bigger than a honeybee), they have a solid black abdomen. And they burrow into wood because they are pretty much evil :p





Honeybee on the same size flower as photo 2 for size comparison



(hope this isn't too out of line to add photos to your thread, Lost&Confused)
 

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Also, love seeing the photos of your setup. Many similarities yet also a lot of differences relative to my TBH. I find this all so interesting, ha.

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To add to the "Those Other Bees" post, this is a carpenter bee. Roughly the size of a bumble bee (bit smaller, but much bigger than a honeybee), they have a solid black abdomen. And they burrow into wood because they are pretty much evil :p

(hope this isn't too out of line to add photos to your thread, Lost&Confused)
I welcome the added pictures. I think I have a few pictures of some carpenters on the white clover. My husband was out painting an old shed, and realized the carpenters seem to be making the rafter beams of the shed home.

Also, love seeing the photos of your setup. Many similarities yet also a lot of differences relative to my TBH. I find this all so interesting, ha.

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I've decided that I need to hunt down a few different patterns for a TBH and ask my dad to make me 3 or 7 for Christmas. You should put up some pictures of your foundationless TBH
 

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I welcome the added pictures. I think I have a few pictures of some carpenters on the white clover. My husband was out painting an old shed, and realized the carpenters seem to be making the rafter beams of the shed home.
Ugh :( they are so damaging to wood structures. Fortunately the non loadbearing weathered board around one overhead door of our building seems to take the brunt of it, and it needs to be replaced anyway.


I've decided that I need to hunt down a few different patterns for a TBH and ask my dad to make me 3 or 7 for Christmas. You should put up some pictures of your foundationless TBH
Will do :). I need to get some better pics. My blueprints arrived the other day so I can build new ones over the winter and keep everything interchangeable. I think I am going to switch to a top entry, though. TBD!
 

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