"rare" GSD breeder
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Well put whatzamatter!!!! Debbie Meloche can secure that there was never a intention to breed any of her dogs to Yukon, now and or at anytime.
Sound familiar?
You all check for yourselves on Debbie Meloche's site
http://k9dogs.9k.com
Is there any doubt who Meco is? There is only one reason for Debbie to continue this and it is pure jealousy. Your scamming lost you a lot didn't it?
You had big plans for someone else's dogs.
DANL: I can admit lying about Yukon being neutered was dead wrong of Heather or her hubby.
As far as attacking her children because she could not handle him...that is 100% true. But rather then help her you all jumped at taking him for your own. You should have found a trainer who could help her!
When I first met Heather the first thing she said to me was if this does not work and you cannot help me; we will be putting Yukon to sleep!
So there was no lying in that. Just a bunch of breeders who saw Yukon for the working quality he was and jumped thinking they could scoop him up from someone who lacked knowledge to know how to deal with him.
Yukon had a rough start in life; the first trainer decided to beat the holy heck out of him; leaving him with an injury that made appropriate training impossible.
Which made him harder to handle because he lacked training when he was older.
He is still a big handful and unless he has a job to do {like any good working dog} he can be a brute. Not aggressive but a brute.
I can honestly say: my dad trained for the RCMP; I followed in his footsteps and quickly branched out of the RCMP and out of actual police agencies. I still train for a few but very small scale now.
In my many many many years of dogs; I have never seen a dog as driven and as intense as Yukon!
Opinions have been formed, mistakes have been made; but everything is on track now.
I will not come again but the website links have been provided for anyone interested. Those not interested do not have to look!
You say what you wish or think! Even if I were your friend, you would be the last person or kennel to be jeolous of! As far as the k9dogs.9k.com website. It looks quite impressive to me!
Chickenlittle what are your wages like? Can you hire two Master trainers and two master groomers???? Probably not!
You have to breed a German shepherd of poor over all status, one that has been bred each and every season! Why? You need to get your Yukon proven!
Please we would love to see this dog actually work. Sanction him out to one of the Sch trials. If you wish to secure everyone's mind at that yours ( PROVE YOURSELF AND YOUR DOG)
Chickenlittle what are your wages like? Can you hire two Master trainers and two master groomers???? Probably not!
You have to breed a German shepherd of poor over all status, one that has been bred each and every season! Why? You need to get your Yukon proven!
Please we would love to see this dog actually work. Sanction him out to one of the Sch trials. If you wish to secure everyone's mind at that yours ( PROVE YOURSELF AND YOUR DOG)
Another thing Yuckaduck, Chickenlittle Sam, Heather. I can secure your mind that your friend did not get there by breeding crap, and or scamming anyone!!!!
I truly believe the issues are yours and deep rooted! Just get your Yukon and Ebony trained, bring them too a SCH Sanction match and lets leave it in the judges hands. See ya there!
Thats if your up too it! Or have the back bone to try it!!!!!!:yikes:
I truly believe the issues are yours and deep rooted! Just get your Yukon and Ebony trained, bring them too a SCH Sanction match and lets leave it in the judges hands. See ya there!
Thats if your up too it! Or have the back bone to try it!!!!!!:yikes:
Actually, there were no breeders who were after Yukon. No one wanted Yukon. All anyone wanted was to see him rehomed rather than put down. 99% of the posters who replied to her thread about having him put down were simple owners like me, people who love GSD's and didn't want to see anything happen to Yukon. We all heard his story about how he was abused too, but after hearing so many changing stories for so long, many people dismissed that as probably not true either.
Regarding breeders wanting him, what breeder would want a dog who's pedigree they could not see? How would anyone know that he came from working lines if that wasn't shared? How would anyone know what his working background was? For all anyone knew he was a product of a BYB who bred oversized dogs. Not many breeders would want a dog like that, at least not ones who are trying to preserve and improve a breed that has gone through a lot of bad times. Heather was asked many times to share Yukon's pedigree so people could see what lines he came from. She never did.
Regarding breeders wanting him, what breeder would want a dog who's pedigree they could not see? How would anyone know that he came from working lines if that wasn't shared? How would anyone know what his working background was? For all anyone knew he was a product of a BYB who bred oversized dogs. Not many breeders would want a dog like that, at least not ones who are trying to preserve and improve a breed that has gone through a lot of bad times. Heather was asked many times to share Yukon's pedigree so people could see what lines he came from. She never did.
#1 --- She is a habitual liar. Most people do not like to waste their time with untruths. Believe me, nobody is jealous of any of her dogs nor her, for the most part we feel sorry for them.
#2 ---Yuck might try to have you and others believe that the controversy that has been ongoing on this forum was started by me. NOT TRUE... many members saw thru her without any help from me.....Oh what a tangled web we weave, when at first we practice to deceive.
And I will say again, there was never any talk about breeding Yukon to any of my dogs! If we ever decide to breed, it will be to a working police k-9 and NOT over the internet. This is just another "story" from the mind of a habitual liar!
As for her dog being better than mine or whomever you are talking about.... sounds like a kid on the playground, not an adult.
I don't believe for a minute that any of her dogs are trained for anything other than having babies. She has posted many pictures of Yukon...none of them even resemble working... One would think she would want to back up her working claims with a few pictures or a video... Since that is what she is using to sell her animals.
I do have pictures Yuck sent to me, of her supposed kennels, and several k9 dogs she bought...and they were clearly not hers. Did she really expect me to believe that? Lol (This was along time ago, I still have the pictures). She also asked me not to post them on chaz... LOL....Wonder Why?
#2 ---Yuck might try to have you and others believe that the controversy that has been ongoing on this forum was started by me. NOT TRUE... many members saw thru her without any help from me.....Oh what a tangled web we weave, when at first we practice to deceive.
And I will say again, there was never any talk about breeding Yukon to any of my dogs! If we ever decide to breed, it will be to a working police k-9 and NOT over the internet. This is just another "story" from the mind of a habitual liar!
As for her dog being better than mine or whomever you are talking about.... sounds like a kid on the playground, not an adult.
I don't believe for a minute that any of her dogs are trained for anything other than having babies. She has posted many pictures of Yukon...none of them even resemble working... One would think she would want to back up her working claims with a few pictures or a video... Since that is what she is using to sell her animals.
I do have pictures Yuck sent to me, of her supposed kennels, and several k9 dogs she bought...and they were clearly not hers. Did she really expect me to believe that? Lol (This was along time ago, I still have the pictures). She also asked me not to post them on chaz... LOL....Wonder Why?
Wait this is fishy if that yukon dog supposted to be from german lines how he can mix whit AKC females.
Isen't forbiddend to register FCI german lines to an AKC pedigree and vice-versa? less a mix of the two lines??
Isen't forbiddend to register FCI german lines to an AKC pedigree and vice-versa?
less a mix of the two lines??
Yup; Heather Yuckaduck, dogzone, Sam and the list goes on and on. Everyone just has time to be jeolous of you. All of the spectacular trainers and breeder's are just going to drop everything they do and how they breed to have one of your mixed bred German Shepherds. Yup we all would love to see your dogs out on the field!!!
No one has to attack you!!! You do well enough for yourself! You are your own worst enemy! Dumb ass
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I think there are a huge number of people here who couldn't care less about Heather or Sam or Deb or yuck or chickenlittle or whoever. All the big talk (chickenlittle) only makes you look like an idiot .. believe it or not.
The reality in the breeding world is that for a breeding to be respectable, they need a means to assess and prove their dogs. To say that a sport, designed to work a dog in three distinctive ways in order to assess and prove their abilities, is worthless because it's a SPORT and not actual work is just ludicrous. If breeding were limited only to GSD's who were actual working dogs (meaning they were working on a daily basis in the capacity of a police dog or other steady-working dog) there would be an extremely small gene pool. There's just not enough need or ability to maintain all breeding shepherds as actual working dogs. Schutzhund, properly done, is an excellent means of testing and proving the worthiness of a dog.
Added to that are breed surveys, herding titles, endurance titles, etc. These are ALL designed to assess the physical/working abilities of dogs that don't have the opportunity to actually be working dogs.
To me, a person who throws a fit and tries to say that these methods of testing are worthless is a person who is just plain unable or unwilling to put the time in to train a dog to the levels necessary for proper testing. Nothing that you have said has made me think (or probably anyone here think) that the dogs you are training are actually working dogs. Saying that your dogs are working dogs doesn't mean that they are.
Big words and empty actions prove nothing.
Many of us are training our dogs for various activities and still find time to occasionally post in a forum or two. No one spends 24/7 training. It's not physically possible.
Melanie and the gang in Alaska
The reality in the breeding world is that for a breeding to be respectable, they need a means to assess and prove their dogs. To say that a sport, designed to work a dog in three distinctive ways in order to assess and prove their abilities, is worthless because it's a SPORT and not actual work is just ludicrous. If breeding were limited only to GSD's who were actual working dogs (meaning they were working on a daily basis in the capacity of a police dog or other steady-working dog) there would be an extremely small gene pool. There's just not enough need or ability to maintain all breeding shepherds as actual working dogs. Schutzhund, properly done, is an excellent means of testing and proving the worthiness of a dog.
Added to that are breed surveys, herding titles, endurance titles, etc. These are ALL designed to assess the physical/working abilities of dogs that don't have the opportunity to actually be working dogs.
To me, a person who throws a fit and tries to say that these methods of testing are worthless is a person who is just plain unable or unwilling to put the time in to train a dog to the levels necessary for proper testing. Nothing that you have said has made me think (or probably anyone here think) that the dogs you are training are actually working dogs. Saying that your dogs are working dogs doesn't mean that they are.
Big words and empty actions prove nothing.
Many of us are training our dogs for various activities and still find time to occasionally post in a forum or two. No one spends 24/7 training. It's not physically possible.
Melanie and the gang in Alaska
*sigh*..... Sam... Sam... Sam...... What on earth are you trying to accomplish here? It's almost seeming a little pathological the way you and the rest of Yuck's minions/personalities show up here to defend her dubious "honour", you know that?
You dropped enough hints, I went over to kijiji because, well, I was bored. Have you guys got some kind of pathetic need for conflict? It's obvious to anybody from Chaz that she's spinning tales there, seems to have a few on the line too. But thanks for the laugh. If nothing else I love a good story. I know hers was supposed to be piece of dramatic fiction but really, it's quite the comedy!
Blows my mind. Apparently there was no farm, no barn, no kennel. Before her move she lived in an apartment? Good grief, she even posted pictures of her newly rebuilt kennels here! And if no acreage, where was the barn that burnt down? The whole Yukon's neutered/not neutered, well, that was weird but I think it was weirder that she pegged the whole lie on her husband. I mean, she posted enough about it supporting that lie no matter who started it. And Sam, you've supposedly known her for quite a while. Well enough to know when you've visited that you were standing in an apartment looking at an intact dog and not in the middle of 200 acres.
Any good storyteller will tell you that, if your basic premise isn't plausible, the rest of your novel will tank, if the reader even bothers to continue.
So, you tell us NOW that this is all the truth and that you wouldn't lie. Uh yup. Yukon's an exceptional working dog (convienient, that title that seems to have been pulled out of a hat or something) because you say so and you know. You'd also be the same one who went to bat arguing that Glory (or was it the other Glory, or one of the Hopes? You guys should quit it with the recycled names) was such a perfect addition to her breeding program. Did she really purchase her for $20 and expect wonderful things? Ever heard of the old adage, you get what you pay for?
Can you understand why we may have a few issues with your credibility? You know that commercial for the cel phone where the guy's wandering around saying "Can you hear me now?"? I picture you and her little group of characters wandering from site to site saying, "Believe me now?"
You dropped enough hints, I went over to kijiji because, well, I was bored. Have you guys got some kind of pathetic need for conflict? It's obvious to anybody from Chaz that she's spinning tales there, seems to have a few on the line too. But thanks for the laugh. If nothing else I love a good story. I know hers was supposed to be piece of dramatic fiction but really, it's quite the comedy!
Blows my mind. Apparently there was no farm, no barn, no kennel. Before her move she lived in an apartment? Good grief, she even posted pictures of her newly rebuilt kennels here! And if no acreage, where was the barn that burnt down? The whole Yukon's neutered/not neutered, well, that was weird but I think it was weirder that she pegged the whole lie on her husband. I mean, she posted enough about it supporting that lie no matter who started it. And Sam, you've supposedly known her for quite a while. Well enough to know when you've visited that you were standing in an apartment looking at an intact dog and not in the middle of 200 acres.
Any good storyteller will tell you that, if your basic premise isn't plausible, the rest of your novel will tank, if the reader even bothers to continue.
So, you tell us NOW that this is all the truth and that you wouldn't lie. Uh yup. Yukon's an exceptional working dog (convienient, that title that seems to have been pulled out of a hat or something) because you say so and you know. You'd also be the same one who went to bat arguing that Glory (or was it the other Glory, or one of the Hopes? You guys should quit it with the recycled names) was such a perfect addition to her breeding program. Did she really purchase her for $20 and expect wonderful things? Ever heard of the old adage, you get what you pay for?
Can you understand why we may have a few issues with your credibility? You know that commercial for the cel phone where the guy's wandering around saying "Can you hear me now?"? I picture you and her little group of characters wandering from site to site saying, "Believe me now?"
Yes you have a point! A big point! All I am going to say is this, if you are a back yard breeder than be one! Don't exagerate things that do not exsist or have happened! Do not sell your dogs for prices that are out ragious or not worthy of the dogs. The dogs are not and will not be recognised as prize winners if they are not bred to be! If that so called back yard breeder, jumps on forum after forum, stating stuff that she can not back up. Then she shall be attacked and expect to fall.
Anyone can say I am what I am! But in the long run back at the ranch can't back up what they said or thought they said!
I am a firm believer to give each and everyone a chance or two! But when they go around making up stories! Stories that are sorted and found to be a lie, then hey yea bit your self in the tail. No one did it too you, you did it for yourself.
One major rule: To be respected is to give respect. That works in the real world, the internet world and you will find it in the DOG WORLD! Act like a fool get treated like one!
So again if Dogzone, Heather, Chickenlittle, Sam and or anyone like them want acceptance, then treat other's they way you want them to treat you! All that comes with the willingness to listen, and learn!
Anyone can say I am what I am! But in the long run back at the ranch can't back up what they said or thought they said!
I am a firm believer to give each and everyone a chance or two! But when they go around making up stories! Stories that are sorted and found to be a lie, then hey yea bit your self in the tail. No one did it too you, you did it for yourself.
One major rule: To be respected is to give respect. That works in the real world, the internet world and you will find it in the DOG WORLD! Act like a fool get treated like one!
So again if Dogzone, Heather, Chickenlittle, Sam and or anyone like them want acceptance, then treat other's they way you want them to treat you! All that comes with the willingness to listen, and learn!
Debbie: It is beyond clear that you have your own personal agenda here. You have depserately tried to recover from being found out as a scam artist and the person who found out was the once scammed Heather.
You blab on and on trying so hard.
No one and I do mean no one cares what you have to say!
I enjoy reading the posts here though as it is much more entertaining then watching children bicker so please do not let me stop you all.
I do not need the television for the soaps; I have chazhound to read!
Debbie get a job and stop scamming people!
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Still think you are not Debbie Meloche!
Your german shepherds are APR registered just like Heather's but Heather has either CKC or AKC papers as well. You are the one that encouraged Heather to go with the APR; why I do not know!
You blab on and on trying so hard.
No one and I do mean no one cares what you have to say!
I enjoy reading the posts here though as it is much more entertaining then watching children bicker so please do not let me stop you all.
I do not need the television for the soaps; I have chazhound to read!
Debbie get a job and stop scamming people!
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Studs Available Page
Still think you are not Debbie Meloche!
Your german shepherds are APR registered just like Heather's but Heather has either CKC or AKC papers as well. You are the one that encouraged Heather to go with the APR; why I do not know!