Puppy toenail clipping

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I have been working with my 12 wk old puppy to be able to play with her feet etc. She is really good about me look at her feet and doing whatever I want with them. That is until I try to do anything to them such as clip the hair on them or trim toenails. She freaks and starts squirming and wiggling to get away - making it impossible to trim anything. I know she's just a puppy and it takes time to get used to these things. What tips do you have for getting the dogs used to these? I would like to use a dremel eventually because I'm petrified of getting the quick of the nail.

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That is what I found with Tucker. I told mom to handle his feet, and she does, and he's fine with it. But try to clip them and you can tell he's not okay with it. I dealt with this by step by step handling with treats (ham). I first rewarded for him staying in my lap in a position I liked. Then for letting me pick up each foot very gently. Then for letting me do it with the clippers in my other hand. Then I'd pick out a toe, then each toe. Rewarding frequently (I used a clicker under my foot so I could click the actual moment I liked, not just rewarding after I let go). Then I'd move the clippers near the foot, not close enough so that he'd pull though. If he did pull I let go and then tried again but with more distance. Then I'd practice touching the toe with the clippers and rewarding. Once he was good with that I'd slide it over the nail and rewad.

I had NO plans of clipping the nails during this session, from experience with Phoebe I expected weeks of sessions. But two pieces of ham later and I cut all his front feet without protest. I cut JUST the tips, it was imperative the session went pain free, and it did. So to me that was a HUGE success. So I would try something like that but with no intention of actually accomplishing the grooming.

Also during regular handling try to make feet handling more relastic. I find the only time you really grasp the foot, seperate the toes, and look at them closely is when you clip. It's a more serious grip, so more concerning. Daily I would do pretend clipping sessions, even after you can clip them once, keep it up by doing the whole shebang, including sliding the clippers over the nails, but don't actually squeeze and clip.

Dremels I have no tips on, my dog is scared of the noise so I'd have to deal with that first. plus I think the feeling will be shocking and might scare him enough to wreck the whole thing.
 
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Awesome thank you for your help! :) did you just let the nails grow out during this training proces? I'm concerned her nails will get too long while we work through this...?
 

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Well Tucker wasn't terribly bad when I started with the training, he'd just start yanking and if you continued holding his paw he'd start to panic. I was able to clip his nails within one training session. I don't expect it to be that fast for most dogs though. I would just start training and not worry about actually getting them clipped. With one training session a day I bet you'll get there quickly. If you find they are getting too long I'd deal with that when you get there.
The problem with actually clipping them is that it will wreck all the traiing you've done, it'll push him too far and he'll hate the experience because of it. That means next time the clippers come out he'll remember how scary and unpleasant the last time was and you'll be back to square one, or maybe even worse.

Remember that for all of these training sessions it's important to stay under threshold, that is, don't push him to the point where he's trying to pull away. That will mean the session is unpleasant and will teach him to dislike the clippers more.

Do you think he'd let you file his nails with a manual nail file? I don't know what size pup you have but if his nails are small enough a nail file might be able to keep them down while you are practicing getting him used to clippers or the dremel. If you do try filing I'd still start slowly, using treats for each step. But since he doesn't already have a negative connotation around the file it should go faster.
 

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I agree with Maxy's great advice.
Awesome thank you for your help! :) did you just let the nails grow out during this training proces? I'm concerned her nails will get too long while we work through this...?
I train new dogs to be still for nail clipping a lot. I do about 3 or 4 sessions a week, like Maxy said, first getting them comfortable and still in my lap, then feet handling, then "fake" clipping, then actual clipping. For most dogs it only takes about 2 weeks - 6 or 8 sessions - before I can clip all their nails. The important thing, IME, is to not try to push the puppy past the point where he's comfortable; do more (quantity) sessions, rather than long sessions that push him too far.

Dremels I have no tips on, my dog is scared of the noise so I'd have to deal with that first. plus I think the feeling will be shocking and might scare him enough to wreck the whole thing.
I've found that most dogs don't mind the dremmel as much as the nail clippers. I usually start with the dremmel, because I prefer the dremmel, and desensetize them to that rather than working with the clippers at all. If their nails are really long I may clip them first, then dremmel, because it will go faster; but for the most part I don't clip at all, even in the beginning.

The key with the dremmel is the same as with the clippers - keep it short! When you start dremmeling, just touch their nail lightly and quickly with the dremmel, and click while the dremmel is on the nail. Often I don't even actually touch the nail, I just act like I'm going to and click for that.

With a wiggly dog I like to get someone to help me. I hold the dog and the dremmel, and I tell my partner to give the dog a treat whenever I click. Then I don't have to put the dremmel down and reposition the dog every time I want to give a treat.
 
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I am having a really hard time being talented enough to hold Mysti, play with her foot, click and treat all at the same time. lol any suggestions?? Thank you for all the info it extremely helpful!!!
 

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Well I have treats in a bowl on the coffee table next to me, clippers in right hand, paw in left hand, and clicker under my big toe lol (I have to sit in a strange position on the floor). I click while I cut (or am pretending to cut, or grip the foot, wherever you are at) then get the treat for him. But you can always use a word instead (like "Yes!"), you just have to take a short session to teach him what the word means.
 
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Well Tucker wasn't terribly bad when I started with the training, he'd just start yanking and if you continued holding his paw he'd start to panic. I was able to clip his nails within one training session. I don't expect it to be that fast for most dogs though. I would just start training and not worry about actually getting them clipped. With one training session a day I bet you'll get there quickly. If you find they are getting too long I'd deal with that when you get there.
The problem with actually clipping them is that it will wreck all the traiing you've done, it'll push him too far and he'll hate the experience because of it. That means next time the clippers come out he'll remember how scary and unpleasant the last time was and you'll be back to square one, or maybe even worse.

Remember that for all of these training sessions it's important to stay under threshold, that is, don't push him to the point where he's trying to pull away. That will mean the session is unpleasant and will teach him to dislike the clippers more.

Do you think he'd let you file his nails with a manual nail file? I don't know what size pup you have but if his nails are small enough a nail file might be able to keep them down while you are practicing getting him used to clippers or the dremel. If you do try filing I'd still start slowly, using treats for each step. But since he doesn't already have a negative connotation around the file it should go faster.
I'm gonna try this, my puppy's nails are getting long too...
 

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Most owners dread trimming their pup's nails. It looks difficult and, well, puppies are so wiggly! The truth is, nail trimming isn't difficult if you know how. The first piece of advice is this: Begin early. Don't wait until your puppy is 6 months old to trim his nails. Begin trimming the first week it comes home, even if there isn't much to trim, and trim the nails weekly to get the pup accustomed to this routine.
 

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Most owners dread trimming their pup's nails. It looks difficult and, well, puppies are so wiggly! The truth is, nail trimming isn't difficult if you know how. The first piece of advice is this: Begin early. Don't wait until your puppy is 6 months old to trim his nails. Begin trimming the first week it comes home, even if there isn't much to trim, and trim the nails weekly to get the pup accustomed to this routine.
Quit plagiarizing. Either post your own thoughts, or cite the source.
 
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I trained my lhasa apsos to lie on their back as part of their grooming while I work on their bellies and I find this is also the best access to their nails. It's part of asserting myself as their alpha. Of course, I did but the quik a few times because they have quite a few black nails but I still remained consistent with the training (and became much more careful by being extra conservative in trimming how much off). Once they know that you won't hurt them each time and you insist that they lie still, you will be okay. But you really have to train them to stay put and not move. I shot a video which shows this position quite clearly at my website as this is the best one for grooming and trimming nails.
 

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