Puppy Marking

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For the first time tonight my puppy marked in this house.

It was against his food bag of all things but it really shocked me as he is very good at telling us if he needs to go to the bathroom.

I gave him into stern trouble in a very low voice and he knows he has done wrong, but he has sat with his ears back and head down ever since, So I'm now worried he's scared of me.

I never hit him nor did I raise my voice it was just very stern, which Im guessing he needed because hopefully he wont do it again.

Im worried there is something wrong though because he doesnt seem to be acting right now, I'll keep an eye on him I just hope its my puppy mummy being to worried about him, Im just so shocked he did that.

Is it normal for a pup to try his luck in the house once or twice to test it?
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Sounds like he just had an accident.

As for the stern voice, he'll be A-Ok in a little bit. He's just got hurt feelings.

He'll get over it, and when he does it'll be back to normal.
 
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Actually dogs are presistant and will occasionally "test" you to see if you've relented, but you just have to stay consistant. Once inhibitions are set, they don't tend to go back.

I would suggest that from now on you don't let that pup out of your sight, if you see that he is starting to sniff around an area (especially where he's gone before) you gotta be quick and put him/her outside.

Make sure that whatever you are using to clean up the mess isn't actually stimulating him to urinate in the same spot. I think enzymatic cleaners work best.
 

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Thankx for your replys.

I keep him by my side at all times the only time he isnt is when he is in his cage sleeping.

He never did his normal sniffing and inspecting the area before he did as it was right outside my bathroom door I could see him just playing around then he did it, like I said I dont have him away from me, he's always there.

So him doing it just gave me quite a shock.
 
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We have both had the experience of taking our pup into the bathroom with us. Then he goes too. Yikkes! Now I make sure he has been outside first.
 

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If he's 8-9 months old now, it potentially was marking in the house. I'd try to keep an eye on him so you can correct in the act if it happens again. Hopefully if you catch him you can curb it.
 

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Actually, he's not testing you or knowing that he's doing something morally "wrong." He's a dog. Those things are too complex. He is simply not reliably house broken. You need to supervise him more diligently and prevent him from peeing inside, take him out more frequently and give him a treat the second he finishes in his designated spot. Are you going out with him? You need to be with him so you can reinforce his peeing outdoors. The more times he gets a high value treat and praise for going in the designated spot outside, the more likely that will be repeated. When he gets a chance to go inside, he is being held back in that guessing stage that all dogs go through when they're learning something. Punishment just tells him that it's dangerous to go in front of you. It doesn't tell him where it is he should go. If he's punished in the living room, that leaves many other possibilities....maybe the guest room, maybe the other bedroom, maybe the hall way. He isn't sure yet where the best spot is. So, communicate it to him in a way dogs understand. Consistency, dilegent supervision...reinforcement for correct responses... he hasn't had enough yet.

Give a cue while he's going, such as, "go pee" and "go poo." Then use those cues when you take him on walks so he learns that he can go other places outside besides your yard. Only use the cues while he's going until he's made the association between the cue and the response. Don't give your cue unless you're sure he's about to go or you'll miss the association.

If he hasn't had an accident for a long time, it is possible he has a bladder infection...check with the vet. But it is also possible for us to think that our dogs are trained when we see several correct responses. But they're not quite trained...they need more practice.:)
 

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Actually, he's not testing you or knowing that he's doing something morally "wrong." He's a dog. Those things are too complex. He is simply not reliably house broken. You need to supervise him more diligently and prevent him from peeing inside, take him out more frequently and give him a treat the second he finishes in his designated spot. Are you going out with him? You need to be with him so you can reinforce his peeing outdoors. The more times he gets a high value treat and praise for going in the designated spot outside, the more likely that will be repeated. When he gets a chance to go inside, he is being held back in that guessing stage that all dogs go through when they're learning something. Punishment just tells him that it's dangerous to go in front of you. It doesn't tell him where it is he should go. If he's punished in the living room, that leaves many other possibilities....maybe the guest room, maybe the other bedroom, maybe the hall way. He isn't sure yet where the best spot is. So, communicate it to him in a way dogs understand. Consistency, dilegent supervision...reinforcement for correct responses... he hasn't had enough yet.

Give a cue while he's going, such as, "go pee" and "go poo." Then use those cues when you take him on walks so he learns that he can go other places outside besides your yard. Only use the cues while he's going until he's made the association between the cue and the response. Don't give your cue unless you're sure he's about to go or you'll miss the association.

If he hasn't had an accident for a long time, it is possible he has a bladder infection...check with the vet. But it is also possible for us to think that our dogs are trained when we see several correct responses. But they're not quite trained...they need more practice.:)
Hi,

This is the first time since he was around 5 months old that he has gone in the house and since this thread he has done it again, not in the same place either.

He gets walked twice a day, once in the morning and once at night 45mins to an hour each time or twice in the afternoon, but twice each day if possible.

Almost 99.9% of the time I am outside with him when he pee's that other small percent is the time when I am watching him in the garden and he goes to the toilet when he needs it, on his own.

He does know the cue to go pee pee and we use it every time he goes to pee and usually twice a day sometimes 3 he will go poo to after his pee, he gets a good boy and a treat when he goes back into his cage in the morning after being out to the toilet as this is hie routine and what he knows to do, we dont even have to tell him in the morning anymore he just knows its his time to go to the bathroom.

For a while he had been displyaing very bad humping behaviour and he got into trouble for that so after about a month of him learning that was bad he stopped then a few days later he started sniffing and lifting his leg.
He did it once hence the reason for this post and then last night he did it again just a small bit as I caught him, nothing different has been happening really just the same old same old and blake being his hyper self, so this afternoon I went to see my vet and she suggested to that he should be nutered and try curb this behaviour as I dont want to breed from him nor do I want his chasing female dogs when they are in heat.

In addition to someone elses post on here about marking my dog does have a whine to himself but mostly when he wants attention, out or played with after we have been and its time to stop playing now.

Despite all this I am terrified that something goes wrong tomorrow when he has his op, he is my baby and I love him to bits I just hope Im making the right choice, I know I want it done anyway for the sake of his humping thats for now stopped as he got the picture but the marking in the house.

The vet did tell me its not a large operation and there's nothing to worry about as she could clearly see I was worried about this but only advised to do this.

Id have got it done in a month or so anyway just needed to get myself ready for it as it will break my heart seeing his wee stitches.

Enough of this ramble lol
 

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This is the first time since he was around 5 months old that he has gone in the house and since this thread he has done it again, not in the same place either.
How old is he now? Sometimes behaviors regress. It's nothing that unusual. There are lots of possible reasons for this recent peeing. It can be stress. It can be marking territory. It can be a bladder infection where he doesn't feel it coming on enough ahead of time. It can be simply a regression in his training. It really doesn't matter too much why in how you go about refreshing the lesson.. (other than the bladder infection possibility....that should be checked by a vet) In any case, the training is the same. You go back to how you did when he was a little puppy first learning....same principles...heavy supervision, going with him each time he goes so he can reinforced with a high value treat and praise. Preventing indoor accidents, never leaving him unwatched for a second until well after he appears reliable again.

Getting into trouble for humping? What kind of trouble. A lot of punishment can stress dogs out and lead to other behavioral problems. He can be discouraged from humping or other behaviors by distracting and giving alternative behaviors which he can be reinforced for. Interruption etc. But if you use a lot of startling and sterness, that can lead to other undesirable behaviors...even such as the marking indoors....(stress) or feeling insecure, wanting to prove that everything belongs to him. Do you work on basic obedience with him a little bit every day or so? That is a great confidence booster and helps with general behavior a lot. (if it is carried out as a game...lots of fun and positive reinforcement training methods...no big serious business at all. Just a fun time while he's learning some skills.

He'll be fine. It's a good thing to get him neutered. It really isn't a big deal with male dogs. But I know how we always worry a little bit. That's normal. Good luck.
 

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