Puppy Development
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Thanks, I will read through it tonight. I am not saying that positive methods are wrong. I am simply saying that the other methods are not cruel as you seem to think. My dog was not abused by these methods. She is a happy, loving, spirited little gal. They simply made her reliable. I can let her outside and not worry about whether or not someone left the gate open. I can't yet do that with the rottie, but soon, I will be able to. These methods work whether you agree with them or not. You keep asking me if I have tried yours...well have you tried mine?
I love using NILIF, and I actually use it on a couple of dogs that come in for boarding. They must sit to get their food and also sit for a treat. Since they are not my dogs, I can't go much further with them than this. As such, I am one of four people in the entire building who can comfortable and reliably handle these dogs, and being Cane Corsos, they outweigh me by 40-60 pounds (I've never actually weighed them so I'm guessing here). I use it for my dogs and am working on applying it in high-excitement situations as well, with increasing success.
Excuse my ignorance, but what exactly is a National K9 grad? And under what circumstances are you training dogs?
I use NILIF (but bended to meet my needs) and I very rarely use a treat only for about 2 or 3 tricks my dogs perform. And a treat is not really even needed anymore. My dogs have to sit at our door before let out, and then are released individually by name. (no treats involved).
Before they are fed, they know to sit and wait until released by name.
That is just a couple examples of my NILIF trainings. I just use what is best for me and forget the rest. (In all and any forms of training).
I use a little bit of all the training methods. What fits the needs for my dogs.
And they have turned out to be wonderful companions, hunters, and K9 partners. I just wish my dogs had the life span as a human. lol
I use NILIF (but bended to meet my needs) and I very rarely use a treat only for about 2 or 3 tricks my dogs perform. And a treat is not really even needed anymore. My dogs have to sit at our door before let out, and then are released individually by name. (no treats involved).
Before they are fed, they know to sit and wait until released by name.
That is just a couple examples of my NILIF trainings. I just use what is best for me and forget the rest. (In all and any forms of training).
I use a little bit of all the training methods. What fits the needs for my dogs.
And they have turned out to be wonderful companions, hunters, and K9 partners. I just wish my dogs had the life span as a human. lol
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Just one thing...many different training ideas out there and when someone comes on with my way or the highway, then they need to expect controversy.
I certainly needed to use a more correcting way with Yukon but if I ever did some of things you suggest here with Hope I think she would have had a heart attack.
I certainly needed to use a more correcting way with Yukon but if I ever did some of things you suggest here with Hope I think she would have had a heart attack.
Oh believe me I was not judging. I am ignorant (have no knowledge) of that particular School. I was just asking what it was and what you were being trained for? Like police K9 trainer, obedience, service training, etc.
And I was just wondering how you are utilizing the training you received at National K-9 School for dog trainers. Like what type of dogs you are training. Like for K9, obedience, service, etc. Thats what I meant by what circumstances......
Thanks,
And I was just wondering how you are utilizing the training you received at National K-9 School for dog trainers. Like what type of dogs you are training. Like for K9, obedience, service, etc. Thats what I meant by what circumstances......
Thanks,
its this, i assume - where you can take a 6 week course and then call yourself a trainer:
http://www.nk9.com/SFDT.aspx
http://www.nk9.com/SFDT.aspx
It may be intensive, but if one college course takes six months to complete before people will start to believe you know much of anything about that subject, then I don't see how six weeks of training really qualifies a person to tackle problems bigger than Muffy the 8 month old lab doesn't want to come when called.
Compare the site above to the coursework layout at the Assistance Dog Institute http://www.assistancedog.org/
Compare the site above to the coursework layout at the Assistance Dog Institute http://www.assistancedog.org/
I'm guessing this is a typo, but ironically the words seem to be true IMO
Playbiting can lead to aggression IF DEALT WITH in this manner. I've seen the results of this sort of 'correction' in fearful puppies, that turns into possible fear biting in dogs, dominence agression, you name it, in some of the dog's I've personally fostered. I'm glad these techniques worked for you and your dogs, but please be very carerful when giving out this sort of advice to anyone. Without knowing the dog, or the person, the results can turn out in a very negitive way.
Playbiting can lead to aggression IF DEALT WITH in this manner. I've seen the results of this sort of 'correction' in fearful puppies, that turns into possible fear biting in dogs, dominence agression, you name it, in some of the dog's I've personally fostered. I'm glad these techniques worked for you and your dogs, but please be very carerful when giving out this sort of advice to anyone. Without knowing the dog, or the person, the results can turn out in a very negitive way.
I never claimed to be a (professional) dog trainer.
My husband and I have trained our labs ourselves, and very proud of the job we have done.
I don't know what to do with a shy dog, I have never owned one.
But if I did own one I most certainly would be able to answer your question.
I am sorry if you feel I am a disgrace, I certainly don't think I am a disgrace.
I am more knowledgable than most dog owners out there. (In general, of course not you members on chaz. lol)
My husband and I have trained our labs ourselves, and very proud of the job we have done.
I don't know what to do with a shy dog, I have never owned one.
But if I did own one I most certainly would be able to answer your question.
I am sorry if you feel I am a disgrace, I certainly don't think I am a disgrace.
I am more knowledgable than most dog owners out there. (In general, of course not you members on chaz. lol)
Personally, I think that shy dogs need their confidence built. I don't know exactly what you mean by 'pushing' them but it sort of reminds me of teaching a kid to swim by shoving him in the deep end.
I think dogs, like kids, need to be show love, respect and kind discipline.
And you can't make a child or a dog into something they are not.
Did you know there are studies that show that there are no such thing as 'shy' children? It is only after they are told they are shy that they become shy. I wonder if it's the same for dogs?
I think dogs, like kids, need to be show love, respect and kind discipline.
And you can't make a child or a dog into something they are not.
Did you know there are studies that show that there are no such thing as 'shy' children? It is only after they are told they are shy that they become shy. I wonder if it's the same for dogs?
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